There are some truly unbelievable stories here.
Good luck to you Gingernuts.
Take care of yourself and be cautious.
C.B.:saevil:
Good luck to you Gingernuts.
Take care of yourself and be cautious.
C.B.:saevil:
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D_Tintagel_Demondong
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It's amazing how people can make up very detailed stories about their lives, like being twice as old (literally) as they claim, talking about siblings that don't exist, having those non-existent siblings involved in a car wrecks, becoming a bounty hunter while working as a go go boy/kickboxing champ/call boy/juror. Oh the drama. What is even more insane is that, even after some people are exposed, their friends might continue to support their fraudulence or abuse.
People need to be careful about those they meet online who don't have a history. Consider anyone unsafe until you know their past... their real past. Just because their story is detailed, doesn't make it real. If it seems too perfect to be true, it probably isn't.
I'm not surprised
I am glad that you dealt with him. I wonder if you know how many people were in your corner. You did us all a favor. I'm amazed that he still has friends on this site... or should I say one friend. Sometimes when you take on the psychos, you end up taking on their psycho friends too. Dealing with one psycho alone is exhausting--all the rules go out the window.
I'm glad you had the balls to stand up to him, Lex. Very nice ones too. Some conflicts can make you stronger, and your success and happiness is proof. :beerchug:
People need to be careful about those they meet online who don't have a history. Consider anyone unsafe until you know their past... their real past. Just because their story is detailed, doesn't make it real. If it seems too perfect to be true, it probably isn't.
I'm not surprised
I am glad that you dealt with him. I wonder if you know how many people were in your corner. You did us all a favor. I'm amazed that he still has friends on this site... or should I say one friend. Sometimes when you take on the psychos, you end up taking on their psycho friends too. Dealing with one psycho alone is exhausting--all the rules go out the window.
I'm glad you had the balls to stand up to him, Lex. Very nice ones too. Some conflicts can make you stronger, and your success and happiness is proof. :beerchug:
No accounting for stupidity.
Some people even send gifts to the very ones they claim are stalking them!
Does sending gifts to a psycho mean your an idiot?
There are always two sides to every story and not everyone is invested in telling the truth unfortunately.
C.B.:saevil:
Some people even send gifts to the very ones they claim are stalking them!
Does sending gifts to a psycho mean your an idiot?
There are always two sides to every story and not everyone is invested in telling the truth unfortunately.
C.B.:saevil:
Oh my poor lil' Luka.
You are way too cute and sweet to be stalked my love.
Ciba:saevil:
You are way too cute and sweet to be stalked my love.
Ciba:saevil:
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I basically had a mild version of this, with an old neighbour of mum's here, with the last attack happening right in front of a cop, who took an instant dislike to the guy.
Had numbers of complaint numbers with the cops here.
All this happened, due to me refusing to fix his computer, knowing what the guy was like, and I did not want to take any risks.
Had numbers of complaint numbers with the cops here.
All this happened, due to me refusing to fix his computer, knowing what the guy was like, and I did not want to take any risks.
D_Tintagel_Demondong
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Nobody stalks me
There was this guy once fascinated with me, he used to stare at me all the time when he saw me in town, he followed me too once, we met online!
That was scary, and then we made out:biggrin1:
Well I'm glad you remember me. :kiss:
I know that you are joking, but some people seem to think that others deserved to be stalked because they were once nice to their stalker. Crazy shit.
I now somehow feel that I'm now being stalked by proxy. Maybe I should just leave LPSG and be done with it. Or maybe it's my imagination and this person isn't really following me around the site, posting snarky remarks. Yeah, it must be all in my head.
Oh God, please not another stalker!
D_Tintagel_Demondong
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This person was on my ignore list for a long time, but changed that because I need to know when people are posting personal information about me. I'm tired of hearing it through the grapevine. There is a certain camp of 3 people who are obsessed with me, as you are aware. Only one member from that camp hasn't been permanently banned from LPSG (and other websites). I know many people who have this person on their ignore list, and I wish I could join them. :frown1:
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Interesting topic. I think I'll weigh in since I've experienced this phenomenon more than once. Both of my stalkers have been males. One was a heterosexual right wing malcontent. The other was a homosexual imagined proponent of all things fair and just. The former of the two was the more honest. He, at the very least, lacked what I'll call "the devious piece".
Of course these two individuals have stalked me on the internet for reasons best known only to themselves. Either way it's disconcerting when first experienced. Ah but the human ability to rally can prove to be resilience itself!
Initially I found that were I to express my political views I could easily be targeted. My homosexuality was always a handy target. If my "stalker du jour" was unable to discredit me due to his own pathological inability to see things from a broad perspective he'd resort to invention and fantasy in order to discredit me. That one was a pretty direct call.
Later, still not having learned to be less candid about who I am and entirely close-mouthed about my personal information, I found that there are those (yes even in our own midst) who will willingly allow themselves to be enlisted in their spinelessness to assist the alpha stalker in his odd compulsion to silence a difference of opinion. Of course this only fuels the sociopathy.
And as any thinking person knows this society has no lack of sheep.
In my view those who stalk in cyberspace do so in order that the perceived need to be seen as all-powerful (in truth a ruse of course) be requited. Should someone (this writer in this instance) challenge that imagined authority and the perceived position of said stalker - the indiviudal goes heywire. War (in the mind of the stalker) has been openly declared and there's no turning back.
But oh! Be vigilant! There are those, more intelligent, and not plagued by insecurites and negative ego who will assist you should you find yourself in a compromised situation through no intent of your own. Though their numbers are few they are vigilant and steadfast. It's to these individuals I owe a true debt of gratitude since, in their selfless efforts to exonerate me from my figurative Isle of Elba, they proved tireless and stalwart. A few sound (in the psychogical sense) friends are worth a thousand bleating mindless sheep you see. I know it. I've lived it.
What was delicious however was that in my most famous (infamous?) stalker case - once I took charge of the situation and stood firm the individual (as with most oddly sad and insecure malcontents) backed right down once presented with the legal ramifications of his own false sense of self as projected in the (imagined) anonymity of cyberspace.
... 'Twas like shooting fish in a barrel.
In the larger picture be forewarned;
Once someone has your personal information they think they have an inside ability to target and malign you as they keep their own personal information unsuccessfully (as it turns out) hidden. My best advice to anyone dealing with a stalker? Remain firm. Do not recoil. Learn from being honest but guardedly so. Honesty is fine. But not when it comes to your real name. Never use it or let it be known unless you feel you have befriended someone on the internet who is beyond reproach and whose trust is unshakeable. Even then it's an iffy business. But remember yourself at all times.
Personal integrity is key to survival. Be patient. In time the truth will out.
However in my experience, has one the shoulders to take down cyber cowards (as we all know internet stalkers are..) it's quite easily accomplished. In my one most annoying situation the individual became so frightened of the repercussions of his actions that he called my local police to explain himself away telling lies and half-truths to the local authorities with whom I'd only recently been in touch.
So you see you do have recourse.
Still the infamous one pokes. But gone are the days when his imagined power can exact anything other than amusement from this writer whom he once perceived as his target victim.:tongue:
The ol' "tail between the legs" slamming of his fists to the wall (however subtly stated and restated) is useless when, in the end, justice was served and my most ardent stalker simply had to shut the fuck up and spend the rest of his days reinventing events in order to bolster his damaged ego. Sweeping up one's mess can be a frantic (albeit pointless) task.
In closing this bears repeating;
PEOPLE! Never disclose your real name on the internet. Too many sociopaths work out their shit through this often unkind machine.
However the one upside to the entire thing is that it serves to hone one's people skills. :tongue:
Oh and a Merry Christmas to both my stalkers of yore. May they find only coal in their Christmas "stalkings". :biggrin1:
Of course these two individuals have stalked me on the internet for reasons best known only to themselves. Either way it's disconcerting when first experienced. Ah but the human ability to rally can prove to be resilience itself!
Initially I found that were I to express my political views I could easily be targeted. My homosexuality was always a handy target. If my "stalker du jour" was unable to discredit me due to his own pathological inability to see things from a broad perspective he'd resort to invention and fantasy in order to discredit me. That one was a pretty direct call.
Later, still not having learned to be less candid about who I am and entirely close-mouthed about my personal information, I found that there are those (yes even in our own midst) who will willingly allow themselves to be enlisted in their spinelessness to assist the alpha stalker in his odd compulsion to silence a difference of opinion. Of course this only fuels the sociopathy.
And as any thinking person knows this society has no lack of sheep.
In my view those who stalk in cyberspace do so in order that the perceived need to be seen as all-powerful (in truth a ruse of course) be requited. Should someone (this writer in this instance) challenge that imagined authority and the perceived position of said stalker - the indiviudal goes heywire. War (in the mind of the stalker) has been openly declared and there's no turning back.
But oh! Be vigilant! There are those, more intelligent, and not plagued by insecurites and negative ego who will assist you should you find yourself in a compromised situation through no intent of your own. Though their numbers are few they are vigilant and steadfast. It's to these individuals I owe a true debt of gratitude since, in their selfless efforts to exonerate me from my figurative Isle of Elba, they proved tireless and stalwart. A few sound (in the psychogical sense) friends are worth a thousand bleating mindless sheep you see. I know it. I've lived it.
What was delicious however was that in my most famous (infamous?) stalker case - once I took charge of the situation and stood firm the individual (as with most oddly sad and insecure malcontents) backed right down once presented with the legal ramifications of his own false sense of self as projected in the (imagined) anonymity of cyberspace.
... 'Twas like shooting fish in a barrel.
In the larger picture be forewarned;
Once someone has your personal information they think they have an inside ability to target and malign you as they keep their own personal information unsuccessfully (as it turns out) hidden. My best advice to anyone dealing with a stalker? Remain firm. Do not recoil. Learn from being honest but guardedly so. Honesty is fine. But not when it comes to your real name. Never use it or let it be known unless you feel you have befriended someone on the internet who is beyond reproach and whose trust is unshakeable. Even then it's an iffy business. But remember yourself at all times.
Personal integrity is key to survival. Be patient. In time the truth will out.
However in my experience, has one the shoulders to take down cyber cowards (as we all know internet stalkers are..) it's quite easily accomplished. In my one most annoying situation the individual became so frightened of the repercussions of his actions that he called my local police to explain himself away telling lies and half-truths to the local authorities with whom I'd only recently been in touch.
So you see you do have recourse.
Still the infamous one pokes.
But gone are the days when his imagined power can exact anything other than amusement from this writer whom he once perceived as his target victim.:tongue:The ol' "tail between the legs" slamming of his fists to the wall (however subtly stated and restated) is useless when, in the end, justice was served and my most ardent stalker simply had to shut the fuck up and spend the rest of his days reinventing events in order to bolster his damaged ego. Sweeping up one's mess can be a frantic (albeit pointless) task.
In closing this bears repeating;
PEOPLE! Never disclose your real name on the internet. Too many sociopaths work out their shit through this often unkind machine.
However the one upside to the entire thing is that it serves to hone one's people skills. :tongue:
Oh and a Merry Christmas to both my stalkers of yore. May they find only coal in their Christmas "stalkings". :biggrin1:
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This is more of a long term strategy, but I really like the value of moving in more than one social circle. And now I am careful how much I mix them. Call me selfish if you want, but it's great for social survival and if you listen to others, you may find that you not invited into other parts of their life as well.
As far as your issue now, Gingernuts, do you think quietly staying away for a year might get other people rethinking things. It might be that this stalker will find new meat and then people can see that the problem is with him and not you.
I dated a guy in the 80s who stalked me when I started to end things. That's when his relationship with my family got stepped up. My older brother will be friends with any who kisses his ass (he's too lazy to make friends of his own) and my mother and sister like drama. Now decades later, I am told, you are so right. That guy is a pain in the ass.
It's not much of a victory though.
As far as your issue now, Gingernuts, do you think quietly staying away for a year might get other people rethinking things. It might be that this stalker will find new meat and then people can see that the problem is with him and not you.
I dated a guy in the 80s who stalked me when I started to end things. That's when his relationship with my family got stepped up. My older brother will be friends with any who kisses his ass (he's too lazy to make friends of his own) and my mother and sister like drama. Now decades later, I am told, you are so right. That guy is a pain in the ass.
It's not much of a victory though.
Yes, It is unfortunate.
Unfortunate that those same people take up sides with folks that post personal information including names and addresses, unfortunate that it never ends and it is NEVER put to rest because the alliances people make with these nut bars see no problem in defaming people.
I see nothing wrong with sending gifts to people who are your friends, there is a problem when the recipients of those acts of generosity lie about their age, physical appearance (which was made clear that it never really mattered) and the life they are currently leading, sexual escapades and their family structure. The fault is not with the sender of these gifts, if anything, it is a clear indication they are making the effort to be generous all the while they are being LIED to about a great many things.
Unfortunate that this fact alone goes unacknowledged because it does not suit a particular twisted agenda.
It defies common sense to fault someone for being generous, for example: paying for your Skype phone service for a year so that your buddy can keep up with his friends, sending Starbucks gift cards, computer web cams so that any misconceptions about appearance can be cleared up. (Odd how compatibility issues with the same camera would come up, esp since the sender makes their living building websites and would KNOW first hand about compatibility issues!) shouting matches and HOLLERING over issues that clearly stem from an unbalanced emotional state.
There is no reasoning with these unfortunate people. It is the attitude of a sick mind that is in dire need of help, to play the part of the mistreated individual because he/she did not get their way and their misguided feelings were not returned in the manner they feel they should have been.
No reasoning with people who choose to slander folks in an open chat room, giving a full misrepresentation of fellow members of this website and for lookers on to assume the worst at will.
Unfortunate the lack of self respect.
Unfortunate that some people refuse to shut their clap and leave well enough alone when they have been asked politely, warned and in some cases temporarily suspended from this web site for inappropriate behavior.
For the love of God. Let it die already and leave people to their lives and find something useful to do with your time.
Exactly! The veil that's disguising this particular case, is not only too thin, it's non-existent.
If you want to answer the OP specifically, or discuss stalking generally, go right ahead. However, if this particular case gets stirred up yet again, I'm going to take a nice position on the shore, and start pounding on the very thin ice with a hammer. Take it to PM if you like, but leave the rest of the site out of the drama that is this pulverized dead horse. I'm not one for censorship, but this topic has BEEN discussed, and has had its moment in the sun too many times. It's never going to be resolved, especially not by dragging the entire site through it again, and moreover, because every time it happens, even more personal information and privacy is violated.
Wouldn't your warning have been more timely a few pages ago when your pals were slandering my wife?
By the way oh yeah it isn't slander when it is posted in her own hand. Others can clearly see definitive proof from her posting.............Ed
As for timeliness in responding, I hadn't read the thread until that response, and there are parts of the thread that I still haven't read. Further, speaking of timeliness, I posted that almost a week ago.
As for my "pals"... You don't know who is and isn't my pal. I'm civil to most (I can even safely claim that I'm one of the few, if not only person, that ever flirted with BD, back in the day), but that doesn't mean that I have any actual connection to them, or even know/like them. Also, you have no idea who's on my ignore list, and therefore whose posts I never even see. :wink:
If you have slander to report, click the "report" button.
EDIT: Actually, again mentioning timeliness... Why didn't you report it a few pages ago, when you noticed it?
As for my "pals"... You don't know who is and isn't my pal. I'm civil to most (I can even safely claim that I'm one of the few, if not only person, that ever flirted with BD, back in the day), but that doesn't mean that I have any actual connection to them, or even know/like them. Also, you have no idea who's on my ignore list, and therefore whose posts I never even see. :wink:
If you have slander to report, click the "report" button.
EDIT: Actually, again mentioning timeliness... Why didn't you report it a few pages ago, when you noticed it?
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Novice B requested that this matter be put to rest: "I'm going to take a nice position on the shore, and start pounding on the very thin ice with a hammer."
While the thought of Novice taking a "nice position" up any shore would be very appealing and very Deborah Kerr & Burt Lancaster in From Here to Eternity, the involvement of a hammer would be unsavory for me on all counts.
Other than adding the obvious application of comedy to an otherwise heavy situation from the PAST, I am doing as our kind moderator has requested Mr Ed.
Happy Holidays.
While the thought of Novice taking a "nice position" up any shore would be very appealing and very Deborah Kerr & Burt Lancaster in From Here to Eternity, the involvement of a hammer would be unsavory for me on all counts.
Other than adding the obvious application of comedy to an otherwise heavy situation from the PAST, I am doing as our kind moderator has requested Mr Ed.
Happy Holidays.
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You're mistaken. You were not well-aquainted with your alleged stalker's family. You contacted people with whom you had no rapport. My advice to the OP was they should speak to the family if and only if there was already an existing relationship with said family.
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