trickyasafox: ive read all the routines on the websites recomended for other pe programs, and have a 12 inch goal in mind. however, my problem is this, i live in dorms with a roommate and public bathrooms, so alls i can manage is about 300 jelqs a day, and i do 60 seconds of stretching everytime i go to the bathroom. i know this prolly doesnt even qualify as a pe program and was wondering if this is enough to even see results. im in no hurry, and am willing to put a few years into this. but i was wondering if you think doing that little will even effect my length, id be happy if the only gains i made were flaccid length, as i am a grower not a shower, but still am uncertain if this is enough. has anyone else been in a situation similar? any suggestions?