State senator says God brought storms

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The statement from the Alabama legislator Hank Erwin does not surprise me one bit. Do you remember his colleague Leonard Lee Lawson who actually introduced a bill back in 1998, stating that pi = 3 (The Bible: "The altar font of Solomon's Temple was ten cubits across and thirty cubits in diameter, and that it was round in compass") and not 3.141592653589...? The Alabama legislature passed the bill and the Governor was going to pass it - I don't know if he actually did. You can read all about it at www.nmsr.org/alabama.htm and then never be shocked again at anything coming from Alabama legislators.
 

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My pastor vehemently preached against the mentality of "God's wrath" being the cause of the hurricanes. Natural disasters happen. Why they do is anyone's guess, we are humans and we can't think on God's level. Many people died, but maybe through the tragedies it was to bring people back to God and to teach us how to be compassionate. Look at how many people are actually being Jesus' hands right now and helping the poor people rebuild. My church has adopted a church that was damaged in the hurricane and then burned to the ground when the power was restored. It's located in rural Mississippi in a place where the Red Cross wouldn't go to--they were making the residents travel 5-6 miles for aid. FEMA came by for part of one day, but left saying that there were too many claims for them to process. These people were left to fend for themselves. Through the MS State Baptist Convention, and our mission board, we have gone to that town and set up a warehouse and have been bringing supplies. We've got a work crew going in a few weeks to start rebuilding the church. Once completed, the church will serve as the center for aid distribution. A couple of other churches in the area have joined with us to help in the project. The interesting thing is that we've been joined by Catholic, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches, and not all of them are Black churches, either. What a way to serve humanity by people of different races and creeds coming together to help others in need. That is the work of God.
Maybe THAT is why the disasters happen. They bring people together at a time of dispair and make us see that our minor differences are really petty when you look at the big picture.
 

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Originally posted by prepstudinsc@Oct 2 2005, 05:10 PM
What a way to serve humanity by people of different races and creeds coming together to help others in need. That is the work of God.
Maybe THAT is why the disasters happen. They bring people together at a time of dispair and make us see that our minor differences are really petty when you look at the big picture.
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I am encouraged whenever I hear about folks of different backgrounds coming together to aid those in need because I'd like to believe we can rise above some of our differences whenever possible. Some good is possible in the aftermath of a disaster.

That said, I'm discouraged to hear claims that God might cause disasters and pain in order to demonstrate a point to humans. That's not the God I want to worship.

SG
 

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Originally posted by SpeedoGuy+Oct 2 2005, 01:59 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SpeedoGuy &#064; Oct 2 2005, 01:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-prepstudinsc@Oct 2 2005, 05:10 PM
What a way to serve humanity by people of different races and creeds coming together to help others in need.  That is the work of God.
Maybe THAT is why the disasters happen.  They bring people together at a time of dispair and make us see that our minor differences are really petty when you look at the big picture.
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I am encouraged whenever I hear about folks of different backgrounds coming together to aid those in need because I&#39;d like to believe we can rise above some of our differences whenever possible. Some good is possible in the aftermath of a disaster.

That said, I&#39;m discouraged to hear claims that God might cause disasters and pain in order to demonstrate a point to humans. That&#39;s not the God I want to worship.

SG
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God is always there working with us in good times and bad times. In bad times, God can point out lessons and we can learn a lot. The phrase that I like is this one, "God doesn&#39;t cause bad things to happen, but God uses bad things that happen during our journey here to make us stronger and more compassionate."

That is no different that a parent using difficult situations to teach their children lessons of life.
 

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Well, how about "Shit happens and then you die"? Everyone wants to find supernatural causes for things because it somehow relieves them of the obligation of dealing with it. OH, well if GOD wanted it to happen, it must be okay. This dismisses any possibility that people have anything decent in our character that may cause us to be worth rescuing from a flood.

There are actually quite a few good hearted human beings out there who would do good works for their fellows without their primary goal being how they would benefit from such an act. These are just regular people, not "angels". I hate these huge archetypal concepts of GOOD and E-VIL because they just reaffirm the average guy&#39;s immobility.
If regular people don&#39;t start recognising and taking responibility for our regular powers, it will take a supernatural rescuing, which sadly, will not be forthcoming.
 

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Originally posted by Freddie53@Oct 2 2005, 10:25 PM
God is always there working with us in good times and bad times. In bad times, God can point out lessons and we can learn a lot. The phrase that I like is this one, "God doesn&#39;t cause bad things to happen, but God uses bad things that happen during our journey here to make us stronger and more compassionate."

That is no different that a parent using difficult situations to teach their children lessons of life.
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Well said.

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The senator is obviously not too bright. The one main point he overlooks is that the "god" he worships is not too bright either, and obviously not too powerful. A god who would wipe out hundreds of his faithful to punish a few scores of evildoers just is not a god worthy of worship in the first place.
 

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Originally posted by prepstudinsc@Oct 2 2005, 09:10 AM
Natural disasters happen. Why they do is anyone&#39;s guess, we are humans and we can&#39;t think on God&#39;s level.
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And maybe, just maybe, they happen because of atmospheric conditions. I mean, I&#39;m from an area known for brushfires, blizzards, droughts, floods, tornados, and nasty thunderstorms, but you don&#39;t see any traditionals invoking deities with anger management issues.
 

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Well, it&#39;s been reported that Jeb is being groomed for 2008.
Remember when he was trotted off to the tsunami zone (wonder what they did to piss off the Almighty? That, to me, disproves that whole theory right there, cuz they were just kinda hanging out on the coast) because he had experience with natural disasters?
He was back in FL in less than two weeks. :hiding: