State Takes Nazi Named Kids

[2322]

Obviously taking the kids away for political purposes would be the more nazi like.

However it's an enormous assumption on your part that politics has anything to do with this.

They were removed by family services, not homeland security.

Breathe, ffs.

I hope that is the case but I suspect that someone in social services read the cake story and launched an investigation. The Campbells claim that the kids were taken because of their names though the state agency assured the police that was not the case. The police sergeant who was asked to escort the workers to the Campbell home claims he knows Mr. Campbell and can't imagine him abusing his kids. Now I know from personal experience that knowing someone doesn't mean they aren't a child abuser, but I hope that there is something beyond political motivation in this instance and that justice occurs quickly for the sake of the kids.

 

[Mem]

Unkempt children are a sign of abuse.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

If more social workers were this active more of the kids that have died in this state wouldn't have.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

If nothing is found to be wrong in this case then ok but good thing someone was thinking.

 

[2322]

Tell that to the folks in the south who hold summer camps for kids and teach them to hate Jews and blacks. Yeah I didn't make it up it was on 60 Minutes.
Some people just need to be stopped to protect the rest of society. And no I am not being the judge on this case I don't know all involved yet but if I was doing stand up....."well if y'r gonna name yr kids Nazi names chances are............."

Those things may be reprehensible, but they are not illegal. We are free to be racists or homophobes or any other stripe of idiot. We're permitted to raise our kids like that too. What the kid does with those teachings is ultimately up to the kid. I think it's sad that people need to find scapegoats in others for their own failings, but they do so and it's a fact of life.

Even most European nations to not have as liberal a free speech right as we do here in the US. There's a reason though it is so broad. I can think of, off the top of my head, two excellent quotes to demonstrate this:

Roper: So now you'd give the devil benefit of law.
More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the devil?
Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that.
More: Oh? And when the law was down — and the devil turned round on you — where would you hide? Yes, I'd give the devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake. - A Man For All Seasons

Let us suppose, therefore, that the government is entirely at one with the people, and never thinks of exerting any power of coercion unless in agreement with what it conceives to be their voice. But I deny the right of the people to exercise such coercion, either by themselves or by their government. The power itself is illegitimate. The best government has no more title to it than the worst. It is as noxious, or more noxious, when exerted in accordance with public opinion, than when in opposition to it. If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind. Were an opinion a personal possession of no value except to the owner; if to be obstructed in the enjoyment of it were simply a private injury, it would make some difference whether the injury was inflicted only on a few persons or on many. But the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.

It is necessary to consider separately these two hypotheses, each of which has a distinct branch of the argument corresponding to it. We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavouring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. -John Stuart Mill

 

[mindseye]

My position is that it's necessary to make sure it is not the latter.

That function is provided by the family court judge who reviewed the case and approved the transfer of the children to foster care. If New Jerseyans don't have confidence in this judge, they can elect a new one.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

Those things may be reprehensible, but they are not illegal. We are free to be racists or homophobes or any other stripe of idiot. We're permitted to raise our kids like that too. What the kid does with those teachings is ultimately up to the kid. I think it's sad that people need to find scapegoats in others for their own failings, but they do so and it's a fact of life.

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WHAT the kid DOES? WHat do you really think kids raised by white trash parents are going to do w/that info?! I think it's prob a small ratio of kids raised w/that kinda life that will be able to make intelligent decisions for themselves on their own w/ their own ideas are shoved down their throats since birth. Jason........c'mon.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

Get off Air America and get real.

 

[D_Bob_Crotchitch]

Laws vary from state to state. I've seen cases where children should have been permanently taken from parents but weren't. I've seen cases where the parents were being railroaded by Social Services. It has to be taken on a case by case basis. I still remember one woman who had 4 different children die. Two of her children drowned in mop buckets. She was not home at the time. It was hours before she could be located. She was not a working mom either. I think all total she had 21 children. Every time they took them away, they'd give them back. arggggggggg

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

I hope this thread doesn't give me the runs! Oh wait......oh wait Oh Sweet Jesus...my stomach.Oh suh-wet Jesus.... I'm gonna hurl! No really!....oh wait......where's my gun?! Hey You PUNKS! get off my lawn! Damn I had to shoot 'em. As the 5 biblical c's tell us:
c' em
choot em
cill 'em
cut 'em
cook 'em!



Damn tasty punks!

Marry e Squeaky Fromme!

 

[2322]

That function is provided by the family court judge who reviewed the case and approved the transfer of the children to foster care. If New Jerseyans don't have confidence in this judge, they can elect a new one.

No, they can't. New Jersey judges are appointed, not elected.

WHAT the kid DOES? WHat do you really think kids raised by white trash parents are going to do w/that info?! I think it's prob a small ratio of kids raised w/that kinda life that will be able to make intelligent decisions for themselves on their own w/ their own ideas are shoved down their throats since birth. Jason........c'mon.

Get off Air America and get real.

By that argument, who are you to decide as you may well be unable to judge for yourself given how you were indoctrinated as a child?

I think any reasonable sane person can seek the truth for themselves. Millions of Germans, Italians, Japanese, and Spaniards were raised by parents who supported fascist regimes yet these countries are among the most anti-fascist in the world. If they can do it, I'm sure others here in the US can too.

John Stuart Mill is not a commentator on Air America.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

wasn't indoctrinated. My parents didn't have a nazi fetish or a right wing or left wing. They were sane and saw both sides. Seeing both sides doesn't mean siding w/one or the other....in regular dealings. We'll see what happens after this case is well investigated. Ya know tho anyone in their right mind that named their kkids nazi names and doesn't care what their kids will go thru in life w/those names....ummm........it's not like Gwyneth Paltrow naming her kid Apple. And NO it's not an apples or oranges arguement.
It's spelled parents C O M M O N S E N S E.

 

[nudeyorker]

ABC news just reported that the children were removed because of "Domestic Problems" between the parents and had nothing to do with the names of the children.

A spokeswoman for the state Division of Youth and Family Services, Kate Bernyk, said she would not comment on any specific case, but she said the state would not remove children from a home simply because of their names.
A family court hearing is scheduled for Thursday. Court officials said the matter is sealed and they could not release information about what might be decided at the hearing.
The other two children, both girls, are JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell.

The father, Heath Campbell, had no comment when contacted by The Express-Times of Easton, Pa. The Associated Press could not locate a working telephone number for the family Wednesday.

 

[HellsKitchenmanNYC]

Hmmm I think the fact that the parents actually named these kids those names speaks to why the kids were removed from the home. And prob some other clues. ANYONE who would do that to their kids needs their heads examined. They should be allowed to live their lives but not imposed it on kids.
Interfering here I think is a bit diff than say me disagreeing when their kids curfew should be or if they home school or.... But imagine being these kids and sending out resumes for jobs etc..........jeesh.

 

[mindseye]

No, they can't. New Jersey judges are appointed, not elected.

You're right about that. I stand corrected and apologize.

 

[kalipygian]

Hinler?

 

[Krusader]

Wtf is wrong with the parents?!

 

[2322]

You're right about that. I stand corrected and apologize.

Why apologize? You were mistaken is all. I didn't sense any ill will on your part and it didn't inconvenience anyone.