Stick thin men are fashionable, why?!?

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  1. Principessa

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    Some jackass fashion designer has decided that the ideal male is 6', 145 pounds, and has a 28" waist. :eek: WTF?!?! :confused:

    No wonder I'm still single. :12: I thought maybe I was being too picky; but I like men who look like men and not 14 year old boys. Don't get me wrong, it's flattering when the under 23 set comes onto me here, especially when they are nice guys and well hung.:wink: But the truth is it would take an act of congress to get me to disrobe in front of a man that weighs that much less than I do.

    I have sincerely lusted in my heart for many of the big dicked, yet skinny young men on this site. Yet I always wonder what would it be like to hug a man built like Olive Oyl? Could he give me the rough pounding I often desire? If my zaftig 182 lb frame were to ride him cowgirl, could he take it? Would I crack one of his ribs if I lay down on top of him?

    Men, I implore you, please ignore the fashion industry! Go back to the gym! Pig out! Have a cheeseburger with fries and a shake, heck have 2. :tongue: A healthy diet should contain protein, carbohydrates, fiber, and fat.

    The Vanishing Point

    By GUY TREBAY
    February 7, 2008

    CREDIT Hedi Slimane or blame him. The type of men Mr. Slimane promoted when he first came aboard at Dior Homme some years back (he has since left) were thin to the point of resembling stick figures; the clothes he designed were correspondingly lean. The effects of his designs on the men’s wear industry were radical and surprisingly persuasive. Within a couple of seasons, the sleekness of Dior Homme suits made everyone else’s designs look boxy and passé, and so designers everywhere started reducing their silhouettes.

    Then a funny thing happened. The models were also downsized. Where the masculine ideal of as recently as 2000 was a buff 6-footer with six-pack abs, the man of the moment is an urchin, a wraith or an underfed runt.

    Nowhere was this more clear than at the recent men’s wear shows in Milan and Paris, where even those inured to the new look were flabbergasted at the sheer quantity of guys who looked chicken-chested, hollow-cheeked and undernourished. Not altogether surprisingly, the trend has followed the fashion pack back to New York

    Wasn’t it just a short time ago that the industry was up in arms about skinny models? Little over a year ago, in Spain, designers were commanded to choose models based on a healthy body mass index; physicians were installed at Italian casting calls; Diane von Furstenberg, the president of the Council of Fashion Designers of America, and Anna Wintour, the editor of Vogue, called a conference to ventilate the issue of unhealthy body imagery and eating disorders among models.

    The models in question were women, and it’s safe to say that they remain as waiflike as ever. But something occurred while no one was looking. Somebody shrunk the men.

    “Skinny, skinny, skinny,” said Dave Fothergill, a director of the agency of the moment, Red Model Management. “Everybody’s shrinking themselves.”

    This was abundantly clear in the castings of models for New York shows by Duckie Brown, Thom Browne, Patrik Ervell, Robert Geller and Marc by Marc Jacobs, where models like Stas Svetlichnyy of Russia typified the new norm. Mr. Svetlichnyy’s top weight, he said last week, is about 145 pounds. He is 6 feet tall with a 28-inch waist.

    “Designers like the skinny guy,” he said backstage last Friday at the Duckie Brown show. “It looks good in the clothes and that’s the main thing. That’s just the way it is now.”

    Even in Milan last month at shows like Dolce & Gabbana and Dsquared, where the castings traditionally ran to beefcake types, the models were leaner and less muscled, more light-bodied. Just as tellingly, Dolce & Gabbana’s look-book for spring 2008 (a catalog of the complete collection) featured not the male models the label has traditionally favored — industry stars like Chad White and Tyson Ballou, who have movie star looks and porn star physiques — but men who look as if they have never seen the inside of a gym.

    “The look is different from when I started in the business eight years ago,” Mr. Ballou said last week during a photo shoot at the Milk Studios in lower Manhattan. In many of the model castings, which tend to be dominated by a handful of people, the body style that now dominates is the one Charles Atlas made a career out of trying to improve.

    “The first thing I did when I moved to New York was immediately start going to the gym,” the designer John Bartlett said. That was in the long-ago 1980s. But the idea of bulking up now seems retro when musicians and taste arbiters like Devendra Banhart boast of having starved themselves in order to look good in clothes.

    “The eye has changed,” Mr. Bartlett said. “Clothes now are tighter and tighter. Guys are younger and younger. Everyone is influenced by what Europe shows.”

    What Europe (which is to say influential designers like Miuccia Prada and Raf Simons at Jil Sander) shows are men as tall as Tom Brady but who wear a size 38 suit.
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    Nowadays a model that weighed in at 191 pounds, no matter how handsome, would be turned away from most agencies or else sent to a fat farm.

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  2. B_ScaredLittleBoy

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    Fashion designers /= the general population. They are 'fringe' and so are their ideas. Not to be taken seriously.
     
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    I agree, NJ, men should not look like waifs. However, I do weigh less than you, but with a pretty low body fat percentage, I'm a BIG 164 pounds... I have no doubts that I could pound you heartily. ;)
     
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    Hmmm, tis a long time ago but I did have a FWB who was about 6'2 and 9 1/2 to 10 stone (130-140lbs) - he was a skinny thing all right but he wasn't really boney, cept in colloquial sense :cool:, and I never broke him (despite my best efforts). He was a fun fuck - plenty of energy - plenty of bounce.

    Generally speaking my preference has always been for a more solid drive though. :biggrin:
     
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    I'm 6'4", 225 lbs, and relatively unbreakable. Haven't looked like a waif model since high school.
     
  6. IntoxicatingToxin

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    I don't like skinny guys either. When I was in high school, I got asked out by a very close friend of mine who was SKINNY as could be. You could see each individual rib of his when he had his shirt off. I had to turn him down!! The only thing I could think was, "If we got caught by a robber in a dark alley, I would have to be the one to protect us!" In hindsight, I wonder if that was a good idea to turn him down... he was a great guy. But oh well. What's done is done. :smile:
     
  7. Principessa

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    I thought I was the only one who thought like that! :tongue: Glad to know I am in good company. :wink: There is a certain level of comfort, safety, and protection that goes along with a stockier, more muscular build.
     
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    I saw that article in today's paper. Reading such a report might have afforded me some consolation when I was as skinny as the guys in that article, as I was until I was in my thirties. It is a little irritating to see the sort of body that I used to have come into fashion only after I have worked my way to a better one. But on the other hand, I don't think that the tastes of fashion designers are any indication of the tastes of the general public. I certainly hope that they are not, and that no man with a well-muscled body who is not an aspiring fashion model would waste himself away to look like those guys.
     
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    I think alot of women (like men) go for what they think they should as dictated by the media and films - and are mostly disappointed! Believe me girls my two husbands have been younger and much skinnier than me (not difficult I hear you shout) and I loved them both intensly and them me but ultimately it didn't work. Don't go for how someone looks - ever - look for someone who makes you happy, laugh, feel safe, loved, trusted and trustworthy, who you can have silly conversations with as well as serious ones and who you can see yourself spending your last few years with in a retirement home and still be happy.

    Boring I know, but true!

    Plus skinny means (to me) boney which means bruises in places you dont want them!!!
     
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    I'm skinny as hell (5'10, 135 lbs; not my choice, but food and exercise just don't seem to do anything), and frankly NJ, some girls just like it. I don't know what's so hard to understand. You don't like that; that's not hard for me to understand and accept at all. You have a tendancy to speak in such terms, and I don't know whether it's simple exaggeration of something you accept as someone's legitimate preference but don't agree with or you simply think the world is completely off kilter. Hopefully the 1st.
     
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    I was skinny for most of my life. When I married, I was probably 175 pounds and 6'2".

    Skinny guys are in for the same reasons that skinny women are in, in fashion.

    Even male models are not bulky and extremely muscular by any stretch of the imagination.

    I would look fat on TV and that is just insane.
     
  12. Principessa

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    Did all that good loving bulk you up? :tongue::wink:
     
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    HAHAHA!! Yeah, that and turning 30 did the trick!!

    ( I married when I was 24)
     
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    Skinny people are usually disgusting, I want a bit of meat on my women for god's sake!
     
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    Um, we're talking about men here.
     
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    You correctly spotted a trend NJQT, but even in the fashion space, lanky guys still share the limelight with other types of men, which is good in my opinion.

    If models (males and females) reflected the looks of the general population, they would be closer to 200 lbs. indeed.

    I find it in fact refreshing that the pendulum is finally swinging away from the proto-human steroids-inflated gorilla of the Rambo era. I like men, not male primates.

    I understand your point about weight and strength, but some of the stronger guys I see at the gym are (mostly young) tall lean guys with a lot of willpower and energy. Conversely, I can't help smiling when I see a bulky (fat & water) man not even able to do shoulder raises with the 20s and keep his arms straight.
     
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    This is why we love you njqt466 :smile:
     
  18. Principessa

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    I disagree, I don't find skinny men disgusting. As I mentioned previously I find many of the skinny men here to be very attractive, smart, and interesting. I just wish I couldn't see their ribcage.:tongue:
     
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    Well, I think skinny can look okay as long as it has some balance...For example,
    I'm a pretty skinny guy myself (i blame my young age, high metabolism, and being oversexed)...but I make up for it with a broad chest and shoulders. These fasion twigs....male or female look disgusting because they bride themselves in going over the top and getting rid of ALL body fat with pills and throwing up....its gross.
     
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    NJ, I am 5'10" and 135lbs, and I eat like a fucking horse. No matter what I do, I can never gain weight. I guess I should be thankful for that. But I really do hate it. I have wide hips, so I am a 30 waist, not 28.:wink:

    At least I don't try to highlight it by wearing skinny ass, pencil leg jeans. :rolleyes:
     
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