Stimulus Bill includes Provision for Government to help guide doctor's decision

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    D_Tully Tunnelrat New Member

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    The Health Coordinator office's "provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care."

    Fox, Drudge, and Rush jumped all saying the government now had a secret provision: the ability to over rule your doctor's decisions.

    Former NY Lt. Governor Betsy McCaughey was brought on as the expert commentator on Fox "News," where she cited page 444, which she interpreted as "big brother medical care."

    Unfortunately McCaughey is an adjunct senior fellow for the Hudson Institute, which is funded by big pharma, drug store chains, and biomedical suppliers. She also used to work for the PR firm that produced the ads Harry and Louise, which helped to torpedo Bilary's Health Care proposal back in '94.

    CNN, Lou Dobbs did not deign to dignify the comments as worth debate. Bloomberg reported this as news. Amazing.

    This is all about price regulation for big pharma. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    What amazes me beyond words is they don't mind Big Business medical care one damn bit and keep government out of the way. Since Big Business medical care is worth billions. Big Business already dictates who gets medical care and what medical care they get and that's the way it should be according to the rich industrialists.
     
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    Indeed, medicine is big business. We spend more for health care, but are less healthy, than the other industrial societies. The medical insurance business is able to exploit the inconsistencies of our State-by-State system (Community Rating Laws) of health care regulations. One of the issues that Daschle was hoping to address, had he been vetted as Health Secretary, was the 50 some odd state regulators who now rule on Medicare claims. It makes sense to have this function centralized, as it is already essentially a single payor system, and it should be cheaper, with consistent standards. Same holds true for education. With 50 state education programs, it is no wonder that the US ranks 18th of 24 industrial countries in terms of educational relevance, despite spending more per capita than any other country.
     
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    The US is a limousine headed for ex-stardom faster than you can blink an eye. The Chinese who at one time we laughed at..........

    China recently announced plans to spend $123 billion to provide universal health care for its 1.3 billion citizens. Two decades after free-market reforms dismantled their system of non-profit rural-based care, drugs and visits with physicians are now unaffordable for most of the poor, who often incur crippling debts to pay for care. Chinese economists argue that providing government funding for universal coverage is important for productivity. Also, not having to worry about catastrophic health care costs encourages people to consume rather than save, providing a direct boost to the economy. These same arguments apply to the United States, where half of all personal bankruptcies and home foreclosures are caused by medical bills.

    The county is going down to tubes with the poor voting rich.
     
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    Some single woman on wellfare and disability just had octuplets generated from in vitro fertilization and embryo implantation when she already had four kids.

    No, our medical community needs no guidelines. Guidelines like, "Check to make sure the psycho you're implanting eight embryos into doesn't have some kind of baby obsession and isn't single, on disability and wellfare, and batshit crazy."
     
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    Yeah, but she's kinda hawt. I'd fuck her in the mouth.
     
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    How do you know this duc.... when NOONE has seen the bill.

    We were promised to view it 48 hours in advance, before it was voted on.

    The last version we saw was ~700+ pages... now it's circa 1,400 pages. 700 pages snuck in and rushed to vote on.

    That is just bad news. So much for Obama's "Sunlight Before Signing".
     
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    It ain't true and that cunt is working on behalf of Big-Pharma. She is taking a sentence and twisting it so that she may try to bring right wingers into hysteria. I only know this because I watched Olbermann tear this story apart.

    If you aren't allergic to Keith Olbermann, then watch this 7 minute video explaining the situation clearly.
     
  9. D_Tully Tunnelrat

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    Actually the bill is already out. Here's part 1.

    http://www.house.gov/billtext/hr1_legtext_cr.pdf

    True, it was larded at end, by both parties, no surprise there.

    How good can any legislation be that was written overnight?

    Alas "Sunlight Before Signing" seems to have sunset with acceleration of the crisis.

    Obama and Co. missed a great opportunity to clean house right out of the gate.
     
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    Actually, she does appear to work for The Hudson Institute...

    Betsy McCaughey Ross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Hudson Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Whereas Olbermann gets carried away at times, he did a nice job of encapsulated this "tempest in a teapot."
     
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