Stop the Oil or be Politicallly Correct?

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  1. Bodaddio

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    Is being homophobic a reason to be kicked off a team of experts trying to stop an oil spill?

    "Dr. Chu has spoken with dozens of scientists and engineers as part of his work to help find solutions to stop the oil spill," a statement from the Energy Department said. "Some of Professor Katz's controversial writings have become a distraction from the critical work of addressing the oil spill. Professor Katz will no longer be involved in the Department's efforts."

    The whole article here:
    Washington University professor dumped from oil spill team over writings - Columbia Missourian
     
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    Yes. Any other questions?
     
  3. D_Fiona_Farvel

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    No. As with many intellectuals, who, ime, are often wacky, it is possible to divorce personal opinion (his site: link) from scholarship.
     
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    Said the STRAIGHT woman...
     
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    It might not seem fair but if the team is encountering 'distractions' caused by his attitude to something unrelated then its their decision.
     
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    Stupid, stupid, stupid. :no:
     
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    Seems this Prof Katz was a bit of an ignoramus and a total bigot. Look at what he said about AIDS: -

    "The human body was not designed to share hypodermic needles, it was not designed to be promiscuous, and it was not designed to engage in homosexual acts," he wrote. "Engaging in such behavior is like riding a motorcycle on an icy road without a helmet. It may be possible to get away with it for a while, and a few misguided souls may get a thrill out of doing so, but sooner or later (probably sooner) the consequences will be catastrophic. Lethal diseases spread rapidly among people who do such things."

    It is totally untrue that the "human body was not designed to ... be promiscuous". Other respected researchers have confirmed that the human body was designed precisely to be promiscuous. That Katz holds this view must be simply a case of his narrow values colouring what he believes to be true. Furthermore, he ignores the many, many harmless things modern humans do that their bodies were not 'designed' to do - such as wearing clothes, reading books, and shaving - that do not cause "lethal deseases to spread rapidly." What a moron!

    If he makes errors such as this, based on his own limited beliefs rather than evidence, maybe he was just an arse hole that was difficult to work with for the rest of the team!
     
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    Well said that man!
     
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    States the woman who also falls in his line of fire, however, chooses to view Katz through the lens of his academic merits alone.
     
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    Yeah, sorry, not going to feel sorry for some homophobe. :rolleyes:
     
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    So? That I can recall, and a quick scroll confirms, no one asked you to feel sorry for Katz.
     
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    Indeed- also notice the only people who defend this guy are straight folks. In fact, the OP calls it being Politically correct
     
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    I would not draw that same conclusion from the posts in this thread. I am the only individual that stated I do not care about Katz's personal opinions, and do not think all of the other posters in this thread have defined their sexuality for the purposes of this discussion.

    Also, the OP never stated an opinion, just served to open the discussion.
     
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    You kidding me? The term "Politically Correct" is a loaded term by itself, implying that he was kicked off the team for the sake of pleasing a small minority, especially since the other option given was stopping oil...implying that this guy was the best out there, and now they wont stop the oil. If you think that title didn't convey his opinion, then I have some beachfront property in AZ to sell you :rolleyes:
     
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    Well, there's your problem. You're being completely unrealistic... How many professional groups have you ever worked within where everyone views their coworkers STRICTLY based on their ability to perform their assigned tasks? No matter how personally or socially repugnant a coworker is, it doesn't matter, the coworker is considered to be an equally desirable member of the team.

    lol... Not even the military or sports teams behave like this, and they're probably in the few work situations where performance dramatically trumps personality. But yet even in these situations, a lack of interpersonal/social cohesion among the group can produce crippling results for the team as a whole.

    Kinda hard to figure out how to fix an oil spill if a number of the members of the team are too busy arguing with this bigot over his extreme social and political viewpoints.
     
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    Or, it could simply be a badly worded title. Only Bodaddio can clarify.
    It remains, I am the only person who explicitly stated Katz's personal opinion does not matter.

    +1 in the "straight" column to support your statement.
     
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    :bryce: :tongue:
     
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    awesome.
     
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    The article states he was "removed from the group because of writings on his website", not due to any issue with his professional behavior.
    I deal with people whose personal opinions I dislike (actually, borderline hate with one person), and we were able to leave the personal out of the project. That's how it works, specifically for minorities, you learn how to operate in uncomfortable circumstances.
     
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    ^That's incorrect.

    The article in the OP quotes US Dept of Energy Secretary, Dr. Steven Chu as stating, "Some of Professor Katz's controversial writings have become a distraction from the critical work of addressing the oil spill. Professor Katz will no longer be involved in the Department's efforts."

    He wasn't fired for writing something controversial, he was fired because his writings became a distraction for the team the DOE established to tackle the oil spill problem.

    An organization has every right to remove a worker whose presence, for whatever reason, becomes detrimental to the morale and performance of other employees. To argue otherwise is ignorant of the legal and ethical reality of professional work environments.
     
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