Str8/Gay Relations

[Pierced1953]

Well first i don't have a big cock.

My ex and I had a gay friend, though because he would lick the cream pie from her, would he gay or bi. I would let him give me massages, that he was great at and we were always naked. He did tease my bum but thats as far as it got. He loved watching us have sex.

Now that I'm much older I would consider a man blowing me or jacking me, so what is that considered? For me to consider a manservant he would have to be petite or twink,uncut, completely smooth,very submissive and pass for both in public,and long hair with no facial hair. I guess something like a trans but doesn't have to have boobs and preference would be small cock. I really am intrigued by twinks,shemales even some cross dressers.

The reason I'm so informed by my tastes is I meet one very simular in Key West one winter, years ago. He could pass for a female easily, even had the lips,hips and round ass.. He was also very submissive, couldn't stop doing things for us or me. Loved getting his ass spanked, by my ex but kept asking when I was going to give him that red ass. Thinking right now I wouldn't hesitate and would certainly let him suck my cock. As for anal I don't even enjoy it with women or used to so I don't know.

Being a life long nudist all bodies are great to look at to me and always were. So being around naked men is no biggie to me. Why I never let a guy suck me I don't know,and I had many chances, maybe because I enjoyed pussy and tits too much. But if by chance I ever met someone like I described I think it would be cool, maybe even as a live-in, but he would know that i still have a thirst for the ladies.

Being single for so long I don't think I would even enjoy a woman sleeping in my bed so a man I know owuld be out of the question. I don't beleive any man nor women would like my narrow minded decisions. I guess thats why I'm single, though my ex lives with me as she is very ill and sleep in different quarters and there is nothing sexually involved.

So throw me some input on that boys.

 

[hairyversmuscle]

OK, I know this isn't exactly what you are asking, because you started to get pretty specific about the service issue.

I used to go to a gym that had a great steam room and a lot of guys played around in it. In addition to the gay sex and blow jobs, a lot of straight guys would just jack off together after their work out. They weren't touching each other, they were eyeing each other, maybe watching to see how big the other guy is and what he is doing etc... A lot of guys like me get super horny after a work out and some of the supplements have testosterone in them so a lot of guys just get aroused and its like having a jack off session with a bunch of buds, not really a sexual thing.

One of my friends who is a single dad, straight, has jacked off with me before in the gym and to him there was not really gay about it. I asked him and he said he enjoyed it, has done it many times, doesn't like it when a guy tries to touch or suck him but enjoys sort of the bonding part of it.

I got another guy, who when drunk asked me if I thought he was gay, because he thinks he is a little bit gay. By the sounds of it, he is about as gay as I am straight. He has no problem with the male body, finds it attractive, has been in group sessions before in which there was male touch etc... but hasn't had sex with a man and doesn't intend to. he isn't grossed out by gay porn, but he isn't overly turned on by it either. That is exactly like how I feel about women. Its been 9 years since I last had sex with a woman, I loved it, it was hot, it was fun, but I am much more interested in sex with men.

Does that help at all... so yes, I think there are a ton of guys out there that wouldn't mind a bud to jack with or get sucked by from time to time. I don't know where you live but I live in a very liberal city so the gay stigma is less an issue here.

 

[Buckstar]

Love the term Gaysha. Thanks CockAddicted!
And really like your fantasy/requirements for a trans Pierced1953. It's all hot. Hope you find it.
Really like hearing from you guys about the nuances of str8/gay, what's acceptable for from both sides...
Anyone else out there want to comment specifically on my service fantasy for str8's, better explained above in my fourth posting?

 

[cockaddictedboy]

Most straight guys i know, don't even imagine having a gay fuck-buddy-do-it-all guy. If they liked to have someone similar, they'd be bi not straight. I've known a few "straight" guys who were always surrounded by gay guys of their age and spent much time with them, sometimes embrace them and cuddle them on the couch etc....some of them also played the "gay part" with them to have fun and to laugh. But i don't consider these guys as straight. Also, i had a straight friend with whom i had a sort of similar relationship as the one you are describing. I was really devoted to him and very in love. He didn't want anything gay with me, but we often cuddled, jerked together, do sexual things, spend time at our homes naked together etc....but he claimed to be straight, which i can't really get. I cooked for him sometimes, when we went on vacation together, and did all the housework, only cuz he can't do anything at home. Anyway, i know this is an exception...this normally never happens with straight guys....

maxime,
I think what between you and your friend was a kind of male bonding , companionship and it sounds more than just a friendship...you did everything together . We don't need to label him or ourselves. We just live what we want. That's all.

 

[Seogra]

I've never wanted something like that before, and can't convince myself that it would be something I would want right now. I could see myself enjoying a sub in that regard, but that sub is female in my fantasies.

 

[houtx48]

Are there any str8 guys here?

 

[Pierced1953]

Are there any str8 guys here?

I'm str8....he was asking about fantansies and I'm not curious. At my age you just go with the flow.

 

[Pierced1953]

Maybe this explains it better:
Any of you mostly str8 guys have fantasies of being served and serviced by gay guy. As in manservant: does work for you, cleaning, errands, cooking, etc. Always on call. Not a humiliation thing. It would be about mutual respect. Each knowing the other serves a kind of need. Each getting something out of it. You would know he kind of worships you, at least your large cock, and you would kind of get off on it. It might occasionally turn into cock comparison, sexual comparison, mutual j/o or a blowjob from your manservant. You would make sure he gets a glimpse now and then at least.
Don't think I'm crazy. But this is a fantasy of mine. Me in role as the manservant. I'm very successful, completely comfortable with who I am. It's not a self hating, low self esteem thing. Any comments?

I know many guys who are you, comfortable in themselves and love being who they are[submissive]. Serving is not humiliating, it's their preference and they love being the servant in everyway including sex.

Like the guys I talked about in the other thread they loved to serve even knowing there was no sex between us. We had respect for each other and became friends.

To ad to my fantasy I would love if the boytoy/trans would join in and let my g/f do a strapon, help fuck her and would love her sucking his small cock while I fucked her or sucking us both at the same time. I guess then he/she would have to be bi.

This has my mind going thinking how great it would be to have someone massaging, serving, etc at my quick request. Nice thread....I'll be horny today while I'm with my yoga friend.

 

[Adrian69702006]

I'm predominantly straight although a small part of me is probably bi-curious. The question is at what point is the line between the two crossed? At a physical level or an emotional one or both?

 

[tight]

An interesting and confusing question. In my bdsm world there are gay guys who want to be beaten by straight guys, but straight guys mostly don't care to beat other guys. I think this scene is easier because there is not sex involved. I do wonder about all the guys on here who say they are 90% str8 and 10% gay, or 99% - 1%. What part is gay? Does that mean they'd accept a blow job if offered?

 

[Pierced1953]

An interesting and confusing question. In my bdsm world there are gay guys who want to be beaten by straight guys, but straight guys mostly don't care to beat other guys. I think this scene is easier because there is not sex involved. I do wonder about all the guys on here who say they are 90% str8 and 10% gay, or 99% - 1%. What part is gay? Does that mean they'd accept a blow job if offered?

Good question...I think for one there are to many labels put on our sexuality. Does it really matter? If one masturbates should he/she be considered a jerk off. They say '' curious'' about what, are we curious about doing it or what it will feel like or how we will feel afterwards?

I don't feel like I am curious about having sex with a man, but don't lock it out either. I know I could never kiss, do oral, anal, to a man, but if the chance presents it self I would probably take a blow job. So is this the 1% gay?

 

[Buckstar]

Thanks for all the posts. For me it's this 'in-between' place that is so interesting. I find this in all things, art, politics, sex... I think the in-between is a place with possibility and space for new perspectives. I really don't care what percentage anyone of us is in the in-between place, but I would count us lucky those of us who have been there and who are willing to explore that zone, without labels. It's so fucking hot. What I can't stand about the exclusively gay world is all the codes that everyone adheres to. I hate going to an all gay male party, or anything that smacks of ghetto mentality. I actually like it when I can't figure people out. Wish everybody could fall to either side of that in-between place depending on the moment or situation. Makes for exciting, rich, HOT experiences. Guess Bi's have it best. But I really do believe we all have this possibility in us, to varying degrees.

 

[Adrian69702006]

If it helps I love 'comparing notes' with other guys over such things as wanking and peeing and maybe even size - although most here would way exceed me on the last count! I'd certainly be open to meeting the right person for coffee or lunch and a chat once we knew one another well enough and a certain level of mutual trust existed. However I'm genuinely doubtful as to whether I'd really wish to go beyond that - without ruling anything out completely.

 

[Buckstar]

With regard to peeing: It's not totally my thing. But of course expanding on my service fantasy that I elaborated on above, I could see 'assisting' my str8/bi man. Since it is a servant fantasy, I'd not only clean and cook for him, rub him down, etc. but would even like helping him bathe, etc. And certainly would hold it for him while he peed.

 

[Adrian69702006]

With regard to peeing: It's not totally my thing. But of course expanding on my service fantasy that I elaborated on above, I could see 'assisting' my str8/bi man. Since it is a servant fantasy, I'd not only clean and cook for him, rub him down, etc. but would even like helping him bathe, etc. And certainly would hold it for him while he peed.

Thanks for that. I'm a big enthusiast when it comes to peeing and, in part at least, it's why I'm on a penis orientated site. The servant fantasy certainly sounds interesting.

 

[Buckstar]

bump

 

[D_Smeg Suckface]

i occasionally fantasize about being blown by another guy.

admittedly, i think it's an ego-boost for me, b/c of my size.. to each his own.

 

[cockaddictedboy]

i occasionally fantasize about being blown by another guy.

admittedly, i think it's an ego-boost for me, b/c of my size.. to each his own.

If we were nearer , I would boost your ego willingly :tongue:
I just like worshipping big str8 cocks :wink: my weakness :biggrin1:

 

[Buckstar]

Maybe this explains it better:
Any of you mostly str8 guys have fantasies of being served and serviced by gay guy. As in manservant: does work for you, cleaning, errands, cooking, etc. Always on call. Not a humiliation thing. It would be about mutual respect. Each knowing the other serves a kind of need. Each getting something out of it. You would know he kind of worships you, at least your large cock, and you would kind of get off on it. It might occasionally turn into cock comparison, sexual comparison, mutual j/o or a blowjob from your manservant. You would make sure he gets a glimpse now and then at least.
Don't think I'm crazy. But this is a fantasy of mine. Me in role as the manservant. I'm very successful, completely comfortable with who I am. It's not a self hating, low self esteem thing. Any comments?

bump

 

[Buckstar]

Maybe this explains it better:
Any of you mostly str8 guys have fantasies of being served and serviced by gay guy. As in manservant: does work for you, cleaning, errands, cooking, etc. Always on call. Not a humiliation thing. It would be about mutual respect. Each knowing the other serves a kind of need. Each getting something out of it. You would know he kind of worships you, at least your large cock, and you would kind of get off on it. It might occasionally turn into cock comparison, sexual comparison, mutual j/o or a blowjob from your manservant. You would make sure he gets a glimpse now and then at least.
Don't think I'm crazy. But this is a fantasy of mine. Me in role as the manservant. I'm very successful, completely comfortable with who I am. It's not a self hating, low self esteem thing. Any comments?

Haven't heard from anyone about this in awhile....???