Yep, it's a really different world. And the under 25 crowd really isn't interested in the old labels anymore. We've seen all the porn. We've experimented around. Boundaries and definitions just aren't what they used to be.
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Yep, it's a really different world. And the under 25 crowd really isn't interested in the old labels anymore. We've seen all the porn. We've experimented around. Boundaries and definitions just aren't what they used to be.
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I totally feel the same way. I don't feel the same when I cheat with a guy as I do if I cheat with another girl(have only done it once and I hated the way it made me feel). With a guy it is all about getting off, no strings attached we just want to nut and go, could even care less what the guys name is or anything about him. I felt weird as hell also the first time I was with a guy, but I am now comfortable with playing around on the side with guys. I think its cool when I walk into a party that my chances of hooking up and getting off are 50% higher than guys who are totally str.
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Like I said, I'm very limited to who. By no means am I looking for such adventure. Nor was I that day. It just happened and I have no regrets.
Thanks for the feedback, though.
You know I dont go looking for it either, but it happens especially when guys find out ur hung. Have had plenty of offers and let it happen a bunch of times. It is flattering and it is awesome to have a dude who knows what he is doing get to work on your meat. Dudes have so much more talent for getting a guy off. No woman has matched some of the guys who have worked me over. I am grateful and have happy memories, but I dont go shopping for it.
I am a vegetarian. I love vegetables but I visit my friends house all the time and eat steak with him. I eat burgers at McDonalds for lunch all the time too but I am a vegetarian really.
Haha!! You are just my kind of vegetarian!! Life can be a shish kabob!
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Thanks for your comment. I go back and forth on this. It certainly isnt the same as a romantic affair. I would also feel worse if I had a conventional relationship, but my gf (GF may not even be accurate) and I have a pretty undefined relationship. We have never really set any boundaries and are really basically friends who fuck a lot whenever we are together. I dont even ask her about other guys, really, though I would not be with another woman at the moment. I dont know. It really is just kind of free with us. I am definitely going to bring it up with her, though she doesnt need to know all the details, I dont think.
So, how do you usually hook up with guys?
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I think it is cool that you were so free that day. That happened to me, too. I never thought about dick or fantasized about guys. Then all of a sudden this running buddy of mine who was dating my gf's best friend just goes down on me after a shower. We ended up in 69 with him sucking me and me jacking him off (could not bring myself to put his dick in my mouth). It was awesome and opened me up to a whole new world of guys who can get me off better than a chick just by virtue of their superior skills and knowledge.
So, I think you are officially in the category of guys beyond labels. Have fun, dude.
Precisely... somehow I doubt a question of one's history comes up in between the brief time elapse of the eye contact, the brow-raise, and the falling-to-the-knees...
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As a guy who has sucked off uncounted guys in my own gym showers/sauna/steam room in my time, I have to say that the sexuality of those guys really doesn't enter into the question for me.
If they're hot and willing to let me blow them, I couldn't care less about how they "define" themselves or justify their actions. I love sucking dick. They get their rocks off, I get my rocks off. That's what the whole thing's about in those circumstances.
I very much do NOT have a "straight guy" fetish. I don't go after guys who have wedding rings. I go after guys who are hot and willing, regardless of anything else. There were numerous familiar faces who came for repeat experiences - who saw me and knew they could get a good blowjob with no strings attached.
If the whole thing is consensual and not within view of anyone who doesn't want to see it, I see no reason why anyone else should consider it any of their business.
If they're hot and willing to let me blow them, I couldn't care less about how they "define" themselves or justify their actions. I love sucking dick. They get their rocks off, I get my rocks off. That's what the whole thing's about in those circumstances.
I very much do NOT have a "straight guy" fetish. I don't go after guys who have wedding rings. I go after guys who are hot and willing, regardless of anything else. There were numerous familiar faces who came for repeat experiences - who saw me and knew they could get a good blowjob with no strings attached.
If the whole thing is consensual and not within view of anyone who doesn't want to see it, I see no reason why anyone else should consider it any of their business.
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lvsxy808: As a guy who has sucked off uncounted guys in my own gym showers/sauna/steam room in my time, I have to say that the sexuality of those guys really doesn't enter into the question for me.
If they're hot and willing to let me blow them, I couldn't care less about how they "define" themselves or justify their actions.
A little reciprocation would be appreciated (turnabout is fair play, as they say), but it's not absolutely necessary.
CALAMBO: amazing thread...have read and thought about this...have to agree with, lvsxy808,...should be nobody business but the individuals that are involved...cannot rape the willing.....no harm no foul...
Me: This has been a very interesting thread. Lots of issues raised along the way. Most of which are entirely reasonable and I'd been siding with the OP most of the time. But there is another thread, http://www.lpsg.org/107819-desperate-call-help-relationship-gone.html which shows what can happen when this sort of thing goes wrong.
If they're hot and willing to let me blow them, I couldn't care less about how they "define" themselves or justify their actions.
A little reciprocation would be appreciated (turnabout is fair play, as they say), but it's not absolutely necessary.
CALAMBO: amazing thread...have read and thought about this...have to agree with, lvsxy808,...should be nobody business but the individuals that are involved...cannot rape the willing.....no harm no foul...
Me: This has been a very interesting thread. Lots of issues raised along the way. Most of which are entirely reasonable and I'd been siding with the OP most of the time. But there is another thread, http://www.lpsg.org/107819-desperate-call-help-relationship-gone.html which shows what can happen when this sort of thing goes wrong.
As somebody who loves to get his dick sucked, and doesn't care if it's in the showers/sauna/steam room, outside, in a car, or at home, nor whether the guy is straight, bi, or gay, can I just say thank you, on behalf of grateful mankind?
I have hooked up in lots of places, the gym mostly. Have went to a few adult bookstores, let one of my roommates blow me one night when I was drunk(didnt know he was totally gay at the time). One time that was kind of scary was at a concert, I was seeing KISS and had to piss in the middle of the show. Me and one other guy was in the bathroom with open urinals and he was looking at my cock and I got hard. He went into a stall and I followed he sucked me off in no time flat and I went back to the seat and my buddy asked where I had been for so long, no I didnt tell him that some dude I met in the bathroom sucked me off. Lol!
Like you said earlier the gym showers is real easy because you can see who is interested and who isnt real quick. I think I am like you, what I like the most is it is soo easy to hook up and get off.
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Perfect analogy sir.
I find it hard to understand how some posters here can so throughly divorce themselves from physical reality as to claim to be "straight" while at the same time enjoying sex acts with other men. Either that, or it seems like some people here are living in some sort of solipsistic world, where everything is really just an extension of their Self, so some guy getting you off is really just like me wanking off to the thought of me with one or more of my hot female friends. Because hey, if everything is just an extension of you, it's all just auto-eroticism anyway. And nobody here would say a guy getting off on his own is necessarily gay or bisexual.
For those with no idea of what I'm talking about:
Solipsism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Tee hee hee i just have to get in on this.........
A man is what he calls himself, reality is defined by our own perceptions of the world not the other way around.
If every-one went around believing what they were told instead of forming their own opinions for themselves there would be a lot less gay men and a lot more happier fathers.
njqt: I know you don't think it but your stereotyping (and that's what you are doing) is a mild form of homophobia.
The terms str8 gay bisexual transgender transexual asexual are simply terms people use to understand human behavior they are not scientifically exclusive in fact they are not scientific in any way.
If you want to talk in absolutes then use scientifically determined language such as heterosexual and homosexual, since these terms in themselves are generalisations i dont think it sound or wise to classify people as either heterosexual or homosexual instead perhaps its wiser to refer to individual acts........
I.E The extremly cute jacer predominatly prefers a heterosexual lifestyle however he frequently engages in homosexual intercourse.
P.s The key here is to acknowledge the fact that Gay/Straight ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT scientific terms..... therefore they DO NOT in any way represent in any accurate way human social behavior and CAN NOT be used to classify people
A man is what he calls himself, reality is defined by our own perceptions of the world not the other way around.
If every-one went around believing what they were told instead of forming their own opinions for themselves there would be a lot less gay men and a lot more happier fathers.
njqt: I know you don't think it but your stereotyping (and that's what you are doing) is a mild form of homophobia.
The terms str8 gay bisexual transgender transexual asexual are simply terms people use to understand human behavior they are not scientifically exclusive in fact they are not scientific in any way.
If you want to talk in absolutes then use scientifically determined language such as heterosexual and homosexual, since these terms in themselves are generalisations i dont think it sound or wise to classify people as either heterosexual or homosexual instead perhaps its wiser to refer to individual acts........
I.E The extremly cute jacer predominatly prefers a heterosexual lifestyle however he frequently engages in homosexual intercourse.
P.s The key here is to acknowledge the fact that Gay/Straight ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT scientific terms..... therefore they DO NOT in any way represent in any accurate way human social behavior and CAN NOT be used to classify people
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