I have relationships with other guys that are based on love. Maybe not "romantic" love in some classic hetero sense, but love nevertheless. For me the love is the most important part of the whole thing. If the love you feel for each other leads to sexual expression, then see how that feels to both of you. If you both respect each other and are aware of the other person's feelings, things will work out. After all human males are ultimately human, and humans love one another. It's hard to run away from however you define your sexuality. I know in my life so far, I'm thankful that I've been able to love people of both genders, and they have loved me. Isn't that what life's about?
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This has been an enlightening thread for me, as I've recently found myself in a similar situation on the other end of the spectrum. It's disturbing to me that I might have romantic or sexual feelings for a girl, but I guess I should relax a little, see what feels right, and talk openly about boundaries. Thanks, guys.
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I found myself in a similar position some years ago. It troubled me on and off for a while so I put my best foot foward and got some couselling. That was a good move. I learnt that sex with a man may not be for everyone but, for me, is normal. By the way, I still like women. Once I accepted that, I was able to let go and enjoy what developed into a very full gay relationship. These days, it's not unusual for me to get an almost instant hardon wqhen he walks into the room and looks at me in a certain way.
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Jacking off together IS sex, OP... Call yourself whatever you like but get that 'straight'.
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I had a friend like you before... He was supposedly "bi curious" but more straight... He would come from behind me... hug me... be very comfortable around me... When he came to visit Chicago, before I had extra furniture, he slept in my queensized bed with me and allowed me to cuddle/spoon with him for the first night... He joked about how 'small' his penis was and took my hand and made me touch the imprint of his penis thru his pants... He would say a million sexual messages around me like "Damn, dude... I'm so fucking horny" ... and it's like, wtf are you telling me for unless you expect me to do something.?!?!?! And he knew that I really liked him... 
But nooooooooooooo... everytime I would initiate something sensual with him, he would be like "Dude... wtf are you doing?" ... there was some filter in his head that would turn on and get in the way... I got tired of this treatment and stopped giving in to his indecisiveness. The point is, if you are serious with him, be honest with him from the beginning about how you feel. Don't toy around with his emotions. Let him know what's up...
But nooooooooooooo... everytime I would initiate something sensual with him, he would be like "Dude... wtf are you doing?" ... there was some filter in his head that would turn on and get in the way... I got tired of this treatment and stopped giving in to his indecisiveness. The point is, if you are serious with him, be honest with him from the beginning about how you feel. Don't toy around with his emotions. Let him know what's up...
Yes Helga, but there's nothing 'gay' about it, as long as it's just between two 'str8' bros who like pussy.
And remember, "penetrating" is off the table. :wink:
What is it then, if not sex? It sure as hell ain't playing checkers. Is it something you'd do in front of your mom?No it isn't.
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I just now posted another thread on something similar to this. I have not read through the entire site but it seems to be about bromance without penetration. g0ys.org -GUys into gUys - not gAys...
Oh yes, those g0ys - the ones who can't relate to anything "gay", because as everyone knows, anything "gay" involves prancing around in rhinestone stilettos and rainbow feather boas listening to Lady Gaga. Also lots and lots of nasty buttfuckery is required, and "real men" don't do buttfuckery. They just jack off, suck cocks and grind their dicks together with their "bros".
But hey, it's not "gay", it's "g0y"! LOL.
So interesting that he spells it with a "zero", dontcha think?
I can empathize, OP.
I had a great friend. We were very close. We talked about everything. We shared secrets and leaned on each other during difficult times. I had always been somewhat physically attracted to men but never had any desires to be intimate with them in the way I would be with women. I think it has more to do with appreciating a fit male physique. I never spoke about it with him.
He was a wrestler. He was incredibly fit. He wasn't shy about being naked around me - and for good reason - he wasn't just fit but had a dick that swung a thick 5 inches soft. I'm no slouch either so we never had an issue around each other there - but I was always conscious of trying not to get a semi.
I never wanted to breach the topic with him. I cared about him too much to ask if he was into the same thing. I didn't think it would add much to our relationship, just complicate it. I was worried he didn't think the same at all and would get weirded out. I truly had no inkling whether he was into the same thing.
We are still great friends. We talk the same way we did in college. The topic has never come up.
So, OP, I understand. For me, the risk wasn't worth the reward since I knew intimacy between us wasn't something I wanted. It sounds like intimacy is something you might enjoy, though, so you may have much more to gain than I did - or do. :smile:
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I had a great friend. We were very close. We talked about everything. We shared secrets and leaned on each other during difficult times. I had always been somewhat physically attracted to men but never had any desires to be intimate with them in the way I would be with women. I think it has more to do with appreciating a fit male physique. I never spoke about it with him.
He was a wrestler. He was incredibly fit. He wasn't shy about being naked around me - and for good reason - he wasn't just fit but had a dick that swung a thick 5 inches soft. I'm no slouch either so we never had an issue around each other there - but I was always conscious of trying not to get a semi.
I never wanted to breach the topic with him. I cared about him too much to ask if he was into the same thing. I didn't think it would add much to our relationship, just complicate it. I was worried he didn't think the same at all and would get weirded out. I truly had no inkling whether he was into the same thing.
We are still great friends. We talk the same way we did in college. The topic has never come up.
So, OP, I understand. For me, the risk wasn't worth the reward since I knew intimacy between us wasn't something I wanted. It sounds like intimacy is something you might enjoy, though, so you may have much more to gain than I did - or do. :smile:
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dude if u find him attractive then your not straight YOUR attracted to guys lol,,,just go for it then
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Well
read your op, immeadiately thought give it a couple of months or less, looked at the date then a possible response
nothing, bit of a shame when as often happens someone asks, and never responds...grrrrrr
anyway i am assuming as i am often apt to do, you have penetrated or been, and so be life
Perhaps he has also given you the opening required
IF you have and feel guilt to return and update, WE understand mate dont be hard on yourself?
better add a ha ' equals envy in there.
enz
been 2 months now?
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read your op, immeadiately thought give it a couple of months or less, looked at the date then a possible response
nothing, bit of a shame when as often happens someone asks, and never responds...grrrrrr
anyway i am assuming as i am often apt to do, you have penetrated or been, and so be life
Perhaps he has also given you the opening required
IF you have and feel guilt to return and update, WE understand mate dont be hard on yourself?
better add a ha ' equals envy in there.
enz
been 2 months now?
WONDERFUL Bod btw
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Whether or not it's gay is not the point. The point is that mutual masturbation, or even solo masturbation, does not get enough respect. IT IS SEX. This whole thread is mis-labeled, if we are going to stay hung up on labels, that is...
Actually . . . I was agreeing with you, albeit tongue in cheek. The reason lots of guys don't consider a mutual wank to be "sex" is because then it would be a "gay" sex act, and they don't want to be identified with that, even in their own minds. Lots of guys rationalize that even cocksucking is just too buds 'messing around', not really sex, definitely not gay sex, as long as the buds involved are 'str8', and buttfucking is off the table - which as everyone knows, is always the defining act and main event for gay male sex. :wink:
Just so there's no doubt, this is not directed at you , but I've noticed often the guys who say "don't get hung up on labels" are the same guys who label themselves and work really hard to project that hardcore "straight" identity, though their behavior says otherwise. Fascinating, the rationalizations the human mind can entertain.
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