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once the far right stops vilifying us and equality is codified for all then you can do that. Until then everyone needs to stand up and be counted and vote for equal rights for all.
You do you.... I'll do me brother
 

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If we all do this together, then we all become equal and then we can all stop using labels because we’re all equal. But until you start voting for the right people and standing up and at the very least being an ally, nothing is going to change. the far right it’s out of control in this country and needs to be stopped and you can help,
 

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If we all do this together, then we all become equal and then we can all stop using labels because we’re all equal. But until you start voting for the right people and standing up and at the very least being an ally, nothing is going to change. the far right it’s out of control in this country and needs to be stopped and you can help,
Extremism on either the right or the left will solve nothing. It will only entrench the other side deeper in their convictions.
 

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once the far right stops vilifying us and equality is codified for all then you can do that. Until then everyone needs to stand up and be counted and vote for equal rights for all.
It’s like you’re saying his existence invalidates yours, but it doesn’t. The problem is not with him, the problem is with the far right you’re bringing up. Let him be himself instead of asking him to conform in order to fulfill an agenda. If they can’t handle it, it’s their issue. And him being his authentic self doesn’t mean he can’t support equal rights for all. In a way, you asking him to go against who he is is denying equality “for all.”
 

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It’s like you’re saying his existence invalidates yours, but it doesn’t. The problem is not with him, the problem is with the far right you’re bringing up. Let him be himself instead of asking him to conform in order to fulfill an agenda. If they can’t handle it, it’s their issue. And him being his authentic self doesn’t mean he can’t support equal rights for all. In a way, you asking him to go against who he is is denying equality “for all.”
He has every right to live his life the way he wants to. He can be down low, he can be discreet, he can service str8 guys, he can be in the closet. As long as he votes for people who will fight for equality for all and as long as he's an ally in whatever way he can, go live your life.
 

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First time was during an mmf threesome involving my girlfriend of the time and a guy whose cock totally dwarfed my tiny penis. My gf wanted us to push our cocks together. I never felt so tiny under her comparitive gaze but I think it was an early sign of a blossoming SPH fetish as I found it extremely arousing.
 

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He has every right to live his life the way he wants to. He can be down low, he can be discreet, he can service str8 guys, he can be in the closet. As long as he votes for people who will fight for equality for all and as long as he's an ally in whatever way he can, go live your life.
Me and my husband of 27 years live just outside of Richmond VA. We have been here for 18 years. Our neighbors are conservative but realize we are just like them. We are out but instead of screaming at people we simply live our life. We are good neighbors and our neighbors are all now friends. If you met them you would say no way but, truth, they trust us to mind our business & they do the same. It is called respect. We all have each other's backs, including being a part of the neighborhood phone tree but don't give a rat's ass what someone does in their yard, house or life as long as it doesn't directly affect us, them or the neighborhood in general. In THAT we treat each other EQUALLY with respect and dignity. My husband was protesting on the mall in DC since he was 3 or 4 y/o. I have been a part of organizing pride fests. That alone will never change minds. Actions like living your life respecting other people, even if I don't agree with them can change the world because it leads to honest & open true CONVERSATION. Not a belligerent fest.
 

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I am so beyond tired of every thread about str8 men exploring their sexuality coming to a screeching halt because another str8 guy barges in and essentially calls the fist guy a f*g. What other purpose is there to jump in and say shit like "straight men do not suck dick" if it's not to make sure that any experimenting men know that if you suck one dick you're a f*g for life?

This shitty behavior is homophobic, biphobic and condescending. Rude, bigoted and overly aggressive str8 people (usually men) here have been going unchallenged in queer spaces for years and it's probably the primary reason I don't purchase a membership here anymore.
there are a lot of straight guys unwilling to admit that other guys can be hot, not to mention to appreciate another guys body! I absolutely love looking at men’s bodies and seeing what they are packing and also love women’s bodies and sex with women!
 

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First time was during an mmf threesome involving my girlfriend of the time and a guy whose cock totally dwarfed my tiny penis. My gf wanted us to push our cocks together. I never felt so tiny under her comparitive gaze but I think it was an early sign of a blossoming SPH fetish as I found it extremely arousing.
Sph?
 

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The reason this tiring discussion keeps going on everywhere is because people are mixing the metaphysics of sex and gender with the social behaviours of sex.


"straight" guys, meaning guys who are masculine, meaning guys who are in touch with their own violent impulses and have integrated them in their being, CAN have gay sex, this is especially true for "straight" guys who are openminded, free from the Christian cultural programming that has been prevalent for 2000 years AND are in touch with their own feminine impulse as well.

"Gay" guys, are guys who have no contact with their own masculinity and they desperately seek it in other men, especially straight men because, surprise surprise: straight men are in touch with their masculinity. I know this is a pill few in the gay community want to swallow, but between being "born this way" and "it is all just a social construct" there is the early childhood experiences that come to shape our entire being and personality and that also means our sexuality.

What we seek in the other is something deeply buried in ourselves.

Perhaps it isn't so interesting anymore to say "gay or straight or bi" since they don't do the truth of the situation justice. Perhaps one can say that guys, who are masculine (I am talking bout "straight" guys comfortable with their own integrated violent impulses, not your average muscular queen with masc4masc in his grindr bio) can also sleep with other guys. And guys who are feminine probably thirst after what is repressed in their own being and project it first and foremost on straight masc guys.

To say there is such a thing as "socially" gay and "socially" straight is misleading. It is rather a question of metaphysics, "socially" gay simply means a guy who is not in touch with his own masculinity.
 

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It’s like you’re saying his existence invalidates yours, but it doesn’t. The problem is not with him, the problem is with the far right you’re bringing up. Let him be himself instead of asking him to conform in order to fulfill an agenda. If they can’t handle it, it’s their issue. And him being his authentic self doesn’t mean he can’t support equal rights for all. In a way, you asking him to go against who he is is denying equality “for all.”
Yup! Stop shoving your ideals into other people's throats because the more you push it, the more they'll push back. Simple!
 

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The reason this tiring discussion keeps going on everywhere is because people are mixing the metaphysics of sex and gender with the social behaviours of sex.
lol the irony of you going on to do the very thing you criticize here is hilarious
 
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lol the irony of you going on to do the very thing you criticize here is hilarious
Please elaborate your critique.

I am stating that there is the behaviour of homosexuality and there is the metaphysics, the "being" of homosexuality. These two things are distinct and don't always go together, but what causes the confusion is that most gay ppl don't understand the metaphysics of sex.
 
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with this title - Straight Guys First Dude/Dude Action - I can only add my 1st action story that ended up defining me as BI.
I THOUGHT I was straight when it happened but had to cum to the realization that I was much more. My best friend and I were in the habit of masturbating together when he just blurted out the question - do you want to trade BJ's? I responded with a enthusiastic yes and before we were done, we each had swallowed each other's cum. It was fantastic and from then on, I really was never straight again.
We traded BJ's for a couple years before he moved but to this day, I think about his cock and cum and wish I could suck it again.
 

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with this title - Straight Guys First Dude/Dude Action - I can only add my 1st action story that ended up defining me as BI.
I THOUGHT I was straight when it happened but had to cum to the realization that I was much more. My best friend and I were in the habit of masturbating together when he just blurted out the question - do you want to trade BJ's? I responded with a enthusiastic yes and before we were done, we each had swallowed each other's cum. It was fantastic and from then on, I really was never straight again.
We traded BJ's for a couple years before he moved but to this day, I think about his cock and cum and wish I could suck it again.
Sorry i'm french but what's the meaning of "we traded BJ's" ?