Straight guys making out?

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yea, like big holes in your brain!


no matter how many drugs i was on, id never kiss a guy, lol
if money came into play, well thats a different story, lol

Thank God. No gay guy would want to kiss your sewer mouth. Still insulting people I see? Charming. Maybe you should send Think kink a nasty PM, thats usually your style isnt it, dear?
 

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Thank God. No gay guy would want to kiss your sewer mouth. Still insulting people I see? Charming. Maybe you should send Think kink a nasty PM, thats usually your style isnt it, dear?


huh? what? lol... insulting who? who? what? where? when?

sorry for hinting that E is bad for you.. ive pm'd with her before, im pretty sure she knows i wasnt b eing hurtfull

shut up and move along elsewhere you pathetic troll, stop trying to brew trouble where trouble doesnt exist.

go away. get back on your other name
 

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huh? what? lol... insulting who? who? what? where? when?

sorry for hinting that E is bad for you.. ive pm'd with her before, im pretty sure she knows i wasnt b eing hurtfull

shut up and move along elsewhere you pathetic troll, stop trying to brew trouble where trouble doesnt exist.

go away. get back on your other name

Brewing trouble? Sending someone you dont know a nasty PM is brewing trouble. You should know that. Hear youve been warned before too. How sad you must be in real life. I keep all my insults public coz creeps like you aint worth personal replies. Is Troll the only insult you know? Maybe your just inarticulate. You certainly struggle with your spelling I see. Poor thing. I almost pity you. Almost.
 

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I have not ever considered your situation as you place it. So, I wouldn't know. :dunno:

I didn't even know you could "make out" with someone in a non-sexual manner; news to me.
 

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Bollocks!! Girls make out all the time and they're not Lesbians, it isn't necessarily sexual to kiss someone, even if it's a passionate cuz, it's like hugging with ur lips! LOL

Some guys who make out with guys are probably homo or bi, but I'm sure some (probably few) are just open-minded and having fun. Once you get into straight guys jackin' off together or having sex, then ur definitely homo or bi.

Actually what's funny is the fact that heterosexual men will have sex with homosexual men before they kiss homosexual men. Also, female and male sexuality aren't exactly comparable; females tend to be more open to touching things and connecting in physical ways so it's not unheard of and is quite true that more females have sexual escapades with their own sex when younger than males do. For them sex is bonding, but men don't bond through sex. Men have sex because they either want pleasure or wish to confirm a bond, but sex itself isn't the adhesive for most.
 

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Why is is that whenever a straight man says that they have had an experience/experiences with men that they are automatically "in the closet", "in denial" or "have some sort of fucked up issues"??

Sexuality is fluid. People experiment. I think it is really arrogant how some gay men assume that every straight man is secretly gay. Not everyone is in denial, some people just have less hang ups about sex and others are just curious. I think thats much healthier than the straight men that are scared of sexuality and homophobic...

I am a gay man, I am attracted to and have sex with men. But I have had sex with quite a few women, I thought I was straight until my very late teens. I am still attracted to certain women and have been known to fool around with a few when I am drunk etc. So am I in denial? Am I not actually gay? How we choose to identify ourselves is our own personal choice. I wouldn't call myself bi-sexual becaue I am not attracted to women enough on the same level as I am to men, so why isn't it feasible that the same situation can apply to a straight man who every once in a while finds another male attractive or decides to test the boundaries?
 
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Brewing trouble? Sending someone you dont know a nasty PM is brewing trouble. You should know that. Hear youve been warned before too. How sad you must be in real life. I keep all my insults public coz creeps like you aint worth personal replies. Is Troll the only insult you know? Maybe your just inarticulate. You certainly struggle with your spelling I see. Poor thing. I almost pity you. Almost.


honestly... WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???????
someone needs to stop you, you are out of control
sending someone a nasty PM, who did i PM? honestly WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT?!!?
why are you hijacking this thread and attacking me, i dont even know you?!?! honestly WTF?
someone needs to ban this ass clown, its pretty clear his only intention is to start trouble, and its clear as day this isnt his only account name
is this for real? like honestly... what the fuck is your purpose here other than to try and bait me into getting banned? its pretty clear who u are, or who you are a follower of,, but since the truth is frowned upon around here, ill shut my mouth and let you continue your blind attack on me.
sorry but im totally confused.. you just came outa nowhere, go back in your hole
i think the one you should be pitying is yourself... a whole new account just for the sake of starting trouble with people, tip toeing around rules.. you are pathetic,
 
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LOL. In response to the original question... :rolleyes:

I have seen quite a few of my mates snog each other. In Europe I don't thinks its as big a deal as in the states. People here tend to snog (make out) a lot anyway, just for fun. Most of the time its been a good game of truth or dare, I also have some friends who decided to snog a guy just to see what it was like on a drunken night out. (I should add all my friends are very open minded, liberal people as they wouldn't be my friends if they weren't)

The funniest experience I had with this was when I was out with one of my straight mates and he met this really hot girl. Things were going well and he was very into her and she seemed interested in him. A couple of hours and quite a few pints later she confessed that she found men kissing "fucking hot" and admitted that she had masturbated to gay porn. It was amazing to see how fast my totally straight friend was willing to snog me all of a sudden. I fought him off for a while until finally allowing him to make out with me for a little bit to seal the deal with her. The best part was his surprised/confused look afterwards and his "wow... so...ummm, your'e a really good kisser..." that he mumbled into his pint. :biggrin1::biggrin1:
 
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a few weeks ago my 28 yr old son invited some of his friends to spend the weekend with us on our houseboat at our lake...2 of the girls started making out...full tongue...yes it was hot...but the crowd of party people...did not think good of it...the men were up for watching...ladies were not...then as a few of the men/women discussed this type of behavior the GAY word came out and killed the fun....people of the 40-50 age group are quick to judge...later my son and i discussed and i was told that this behavior is very common in his age group and nothing is thought of it....man times have changed...
 

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LOL. In response to the original question... :rolleyes:

I have seen quite a few of my mates snog each other. In Europe I don't thinks its as big a deal as in the states. People here tend to snog (make out) a lot anyway, just for fun. Most of the time its been a good game of truth or dare, I also have some friends who decided to snog a guy just to see what it was like on a drunken night out. (I should add all my friends are very open minded, liberal people as they wouldn't be my friends if they weren't)

The funniest experience I had with this was when I was out with one of my straight mates and he met this really hot girl. Things were going well and he was very into her and she seemed interested in him. A couple of hours and quite a few pints later she confessed that she found men kissing "fucking hot" and admitted that she had masturbated to gay porn. It was amazing to see how fast my totally straight friend was willing to snog me all of a sudden. I fought him off for a while until finally allowing him to make out with me for a little bit to seal the deal with her. The best part was his surprised/confused look afterwards and his "wow... so...ummm, your'e a really good kisser..." that he mumbled into his pint. :biggrin1::biggrin1:

If one is experimenting, willingly and wanting to receive the results in full, shouldn't they avoid intoxication? For some reason that single aspect keeps popping up and as with most choices made under the influence that pretty much nullifies all instances of sensible thought thus making them. . . less than capable of truly wanting the experience.

Liberal or not if one is not sober how can one be absolutely sure of one's own desires. Would they do this without alcohol use? Have they? Have they pursued it without coercion ( playing truth or dare )?
 

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If one is experimenting, willingly and wanting to receive the results in full, shouldn't they avoid intoxication? For some reason that single aspect keeps popping up and as with most choices made under the influence that pretty much nullifies all instances of sensible thought thus making them. . . less than capable of truly wanting the experience.

Liberal or not if one is not sober how can one be absolutely sure of one's own desires. Would they do this without alcohol use? Have they? Have they pursued it without coercion ( playing truth or dare )?

I see what you are saying, but sometimes alcohol isn't just something that affects rational choices and taints decisions but can be something that loosens inhibitions and makes certain desires or things we would have been scared of doing possible i.e. Dutch Courage

How many times has someone really fancied someone/wanted to end a relationship/been too scared to stand up to someone until they have had a drink or two? (Also there is the failsafe "I was drunk you cannot hold me accountable for my actions because I was under the influence of alcohol" excuse that is handy in the morning if you feel regret for the actions of the previous night. I would argue that perhaps in a lot of these situations alcohol or other substances act as a catalyst or facilitator to behaviour that people otherwise would have been too scared or shy to try in a sober state.

I would also argue that a game of truth or dare is a similar if not even better facilitator. Maybe some of my straight friends were curious and or wanted to try snogging a guy but never would in a normal situation. All of a sudden in a game where they are "forced" to, it's ok because then they are not judged for their actions and are only doing it for the sake of the game and not for their own pleasure or desire. (Besides any good game of truth or dare has a penalty option for anyone who doens't want to go through with their particular dare or question :biggrin1:)

I don't think this contradicts anything I said before. I still think that straight guys can be genuinely curious or want to try things with a guy. Just sometimes alcohol can help to make people care less about social contstucts and learned behaviour. Besides none of this would even be an issue if we didn't place such strict labels on sexuality...
 
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I see what you are saying, but sometimes alcohol isn't just something that affects rational choices and taints decisions but can be something that loosens inhibitions and makes certain desires or things we would have been scared of doing possible i.e. Dutch Courage

How many times has someone really fancied someone/wanted to end a relationship/been too scared to stand up to someone until they have had a drink or two? (Also there is the failsafe "I was drunk you cannot hold me accountable for my actions because I was under the influence of alcohol" excuse that is handy in the morning if you feel regret for the actions of the previous night. I would argue that perhaps in a lot of these situations alcohol or other substances act as a catalyst or facilitator to behaviour that people otherwise would have been too scared or shy to try in a sober state.

I would also argue that a game of truth or dare is a similar if not even better facilitator. Maybe some of my straight friends were curious and or wanted to try snogging a guy but never would in a normal situation. All of a sudden in a game where they are "forced" to, it's ok because then they are not judged for their actions and are only doing it for the sake of the game and not for their own pleasure or desire. (Besides any good game of truth or dare has a penalty option for anyone who doens't want to go through with their particular dare or question :biggrin1:)

I don't think this contradicts anything I said before. I still think that straight guys can be genuinely curious or want to try things with a guy. Just sometimes alcohol can help to make people care less about social contstucts and learned behaviour. Besides none of this would even be an issue if we didn't place such strict labels on sexuality...

Our labels, today, are more lenient than they have ever been. "Attraction versus action" is almost too lenient; you can have sex with only females and claim to be attracted to males without real contest. That aside I don't think "catalyst" is the right word, because enabling behaviors by means of coercion or intoxication isn't really a catalyst, if anything it's the opposite. It forces an extra step.

I suppose Dutch Courage just isn't sensible in matters like this to me. I understand trying to break-up or something maybe, but I can't gather why you'd intoxicate yourself, and probably another person, just to carry out something that you can't enjoy as much intoxicated; coupled with the fact that you are already beside yourself because you're not "completely yourself" you won't even get to analyse the situation fully.

Then again, that's just me.
 

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Our labels, today, are more lenient than they have ever been.

I would strongly disagree with that... The Ancient Greeks had numerous words for copulation and various sex acts from oral sex, mutual masturbation, anal sex etc between men and men and men and women, yet they had no words for "gay" or "straight." Even as far as Elizabethan England, men were not chastised or judged for having sex/sexual acts with other men. It really wasn't until Victorian times and the "Age of (so-called) Reason" that we became obsessed with labelling and decided that if you engaged in certain acts it made you a certain thing and unfortunately most modern Western values are modelled and carried over from Victorian society. Also due to colonisation and the age of the British Empire these values also affected other non-Western cultures who had previously been more relaxed towards sexuality as well. Before these values were in place, men were just considered "sexual", it was women who really had the bum deal. If anything we are now going towards a reversal of fortunes where women have greater sexual freedom and are more free to experiment with their sexual behaviour and men are forced into a certain role dictated by society....
 

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Thank God. No gay guy would want to kiss your sewer mouth. Still insulting people I see? Charming. Maybe you should send Think kink a nasty PM, thats usually your style isnt it, dear?
Actually uncut and I are friends. We have different opinions on things, it doesn't mean we are going to fight and call each other names over it.
 

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I think comparing guy on guy kissing to girl on girl kissing isn't really the same... there are some girls who will kiss other girls (especially in front of other people) just for the attention and shock value, or they think it will make certain guys like them more if they are "bisexual". Really, they have no interest girls but they'll engage in some tongue action to appear bisexual, bold, daring or even just "interesting".

It works for girls, it doesn't for guys. Two guys kiss and they're called homos, fags, queers etc. It's a double standard, but that's how it is. But I think that if you're truly 100% straight you really don't have any interest in kissing members of the same sex.

On a side note, I actually enjoy making out with guys more than girls. When i kiss a girl, I'm the initiator. I'm kissed back, but not as passionately as when a guy kisses me back.