I guess this is an appropriate thread for one of my infrequent posts. I am straight. I have had sex with two men. Does having sex with two men mean that I should really consider myself to be bi? Not at all. I am sexually attracted to women, not men. I am open minded and have friends of various sexual orientations. The men I had sex with are two men that I consider friends. I am like many straight men. I had a natural curiosity - "What is it like?" I would only feel comfortable satisfying that curiosity with someone that I knew and trusted, not a stranger. Did I enjoy the sex? Well yeah, I did. My dick was skillfully manipulated by two men who had experience in dick manipulation. I discovered what sensations the stimulation of my prostate could produce. Whats not to like? The taste of dick didnt do much for me, but I wasnt repelled by it and I had decided earlier on that I didnt want to draw boundaries in the experiment and it seemed only right to try to return some of the pleasure that they had given me. So I had a one time experience with gay sex. I dont regret and my curiosity has been satisfied. The two men are still my friends. I still dont feel sexual attraction to men . I dont anticipate in repeating the experience. So can a straight man experience sex with another man and remain straight? Absolutely.
Straight Guys Who Experiment With Gay Guys
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I think the main problem is our seeming inability to to avoid labeling a "secxual esperiecne" whether hetero, or bi or whatever. We're at root sexual beings. How that plays out is immaterial. What really excites me are the guys are who willing to t ake the risk to find out what it's like. And then make up there mind. It has nothing to do with forfeiting your oreintatoink its gout wanting to explore another side of you. Taht's all. Sone guys once is enough. Others continue to enjoy although are dpredomindantly 'straight". It's all good as long as it doesn't cause guilt, andall that shit.. i'ts all good.
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This is not a topic that I'd contribute to, in general, but it's generated a few interesting comments. The post that initiated this topic implied that well hung men are more likely to whip it out and Topspinman asked if it were pure horniness or a love of sharing. He then asked others to share their experiences.
Topspinman, I'm on record as believing penis size has nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality. Have I ever whipped it out? Yes, I admit that I have, on occasion, done that. When I was younger and with some guys and alcohol was usually involved. Once, I did it quite purposely to intimidate my Father-in-Law. On this subject I only want to say that Ive seen my share of guys whip it out who didnt have much to whip so while there may be a link between alcohol and (stupid young) men exposing themselves it has nothing to do with penis size.
On the subject of horniness or sharing, I can tell you, Topspin, that I never exposed myself with the intent of having sex with another man. Further, Im not attracted to men nor have I felt any desire or curiosity about being with men in a sexual manner. Yes, there have been opportunities and I receive propositions from time to time. Im simply not interested.
I have one or two more things to say. I agree with those who frown on labels and in this case would rather not be named gay, bi or straight regardless of their relationships and actions. On the other hand those men whove had sexual relations with other men must admit to the attraction! I dont care if the attraction is because of another mans eyes or his dick or merely a curiosity for what hasnt been experienced, its still an attraction. Im attracted to women. It doesnt matter why. I am. Lastly, regarding closeted men who engage in same sex relations while publicly denouncing the same: Morons will be morons.
On that note, its time to vote.
This is not a topic that I'd contribute to, in general, but it's generated a few interesting comments. The post that initiated this topic implied that well hung men are more likely to whip it out and Topspinman asked if it were pure horniness or a love of sharing. He then asked others to share their experiences.
Topspinman, I'm on record as believing penis size has nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality. Have I ever whipped it out? Yes, I admit that I have, on occasion, done that. When I was younger and with some guys and alcohol was usually involved. Once, I did it quite purposely to intimidate my Father-in-Law. On this subject I only want to say that Ive seen my share of guys whip it out who didnt have much to whip so while there may be a link between alcohol and (stupid young) men exposing themselves it has nothing to do with penis size.
On the subject of horniness or sharing, I can tell you, Topspin, that I never exposed myself with the intent of having sex with another man. Further, Im not attracted to men nor have I felt any desire or curiosity about being with men in a sexual manner. Yes, there have been opportunities and I receive propositions from time to time. Im simply not interested.
I have one or two more things to say. I agree with those who frown on labels and in this case would rather not be named gay, bi or straight regardless of their relationships and actions. On the other hand those men whove had sexual relations with other men must admit to the attraction! I dont care if the attraction is because of another mans eyes or his dick or merely a curiosity for what hasnt been experienced, its still an attraction. Im attracted to women. It doesnt matter why. I am. Lastly, regarding closeted men who engage in same sex relations while publicly denouncing the same: Morons will be morons.
On that note, its time to vote.
Very interesting thread!
I've never been one for hard and fast labels either. Certainly I fooled around with a few guys in their teens whom I now consider to be 'straight'. And I do know some guys who are 'mostly straight' but are willing to engage in some fooling around now and again of the situation is right. The size of one's dick doesn't seem to make much difference here in my opinion.
Certainly my having a 'big one' doesn't make me more inclined to receive a casual hand-job or blow-job from a woman.
I've never been one for hard and fast labels either. Certainly I fooled around with a few guys in their teens whom I now consider to be 'straight'. And I do know some guys who are 'mostly straight' but are willing to engage in some fooling around now and again of the situation is right. The size of one's dick doesn't seem to make much difference here in my opinion.
Certainly my having a 'big one' doesn't make me more inclined to receive a casual hand-job or blow-job from a woman.
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So in most cases... what are you drinking before the well hung guy decides to pull out his pole? :lol:
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Well, my theory is that most straight guys are just put off by anal, more specifically being on the receptive end of anal rather than the insertive. (Some straight guys do have anal with women, but it's fairly taboo to discuss. However, the idea of the receptive end, well . . . Notice all the phraseology like "I got fucked!" "Fuck you!" etc.)
dayne: I think a str8 guy with a big dick might be more willing to experiment if he is confident he has a big dick. Being insecure about your dick size would cause someone to keep it in their pants longer I think. When I was insecure about my sexuality, I was at a river skinnydipping. A gay guy started to grab my dick saying it was huge. I took off because it freaked me out, but I wondered if he was just saying that to get me or whether it really was big. Later I asked a gay guy I knew and trusted, if he would tell me if I really had a big dick. I then dropped my shorts and started jacking off. He gave me a big smile and told me I had nothing to worry about! I then zipped them up. He wouldn't qualify "nothing to worry about" but from the way he was smiling I got the the message it wasn't average. It made the idea of experimenting easier because I knew I didn't have to worry about size when another guy saw it.
What a load of crap that a guy is gay if he experiments a couple of times. We are a society of consumers. How would you know you like something if you don't try it. If you do try and it sucks, maybe that person just wasn't good. This is a major decision. For some people it would make sense to try again and be sure.
What a load of crap that a guy is gay if he experiments a couple of times. We are a society of consumers. How would you know you like something if you don't try it. If you do try and it sucks, maybe that person just wasn't good. This is a major decision. For some people it would make sense to try again and be sure.
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I didn't even read all of the replies, so I can only imagine where they're at now. However, the second post (I forgot who it was) was right on the money.
Guys don't "experiement" with other guys, unless they are gay--which is fine--or bisexual--which is also fine. The point is that straight guys do not engage in homosexual acts, period, despite size. As far as showing off--yes, straight guys will show off if they're hung. This is why I am always eager to go "hot-tubbing," because wet shorts show off my endowment. And yes, straight guys will show off to both sexes. But once physical contact between two men begins, heterosexuality--by definition--ends. I'm proud of being hung and I like guys to know I'm hung, but not from first-hand-contact.
The homosexual myth of the "gay straight guy" is almost as contradictory as the heterosexual myth of the "virgin slut."--think Britney Spears and her schoolgirl outfit). They're both concepts that fascinate men, depending on sexual preference, but neither is a reality.
Guys don't "experiement" with other guys, unless they are gay--which is fine--or bisexual--which is also fine. The point is that straight guys do not engage in homosexual acts, period, despite size. As far as showing off--yes, straight guys will show off if they're hung. This is why I am always eager to go "hot-tubbing," because wet shorts show off my endowment. And yes, straight guys will show off to both sexes. But once physical contact between two men begins, heterosexuality--by definition--ends. I'm proud of being hung and I like guys to know I'm hung, but not from first-hand-contact.
The homosexual myth of the "gay straight guy" is almost as contradictory as the heterosexual myth of the "virgin slut."--think Britney Spears and her schoolgirl outfit). They're both concepts that fascinate men, depending on sexual preference, but neither is a reality.
clownboots19: Sorry Onslow, but I strongly agree with Pappy, Jonb and Prepstud!!!
If heterosexuality is, by definition, sexual involvement between two people of the opposite sex, you would have to pinpoint what exactly you mean by "sexual involvement." I have known quite a few people in life who have argued, and passionately at that, that the only "real" form of sex is intercourse. Somehow I'm supposed to believe that, for example, fellatio or cunnilingus -- even though it's called oral sex -- isn't really sex since it's not intercourse.
Your qualification might hold true if one of your male hot-tubbin' buddies gets this sudden urge to suck you off. That's sex, and according to your definition, it's not going to fly. But what's to say that you're not inadvertently enticing a sexual situation? Perhaps in your shoes, big dick or not, I wouldn't even want to stir up a potential non-heterosexual encounter if I'm letting all my friends ogle my basket. Sure, it might get you lucky with some of the chicks, but dudes might look and feel enticed, thus putting you in an awkward situation. And really, all you wanted to do is show off.
Voyeurism? That's a non-participatory act in which one gets sexually aroused through direct visual contact with an individual or individuals. If your dick ends up turning someone on and you're aware of that or you don't do anything to thwart that, congratulations, you just might be culpable. And especially since you proclaimed that you like other dudes to know what you're packing, you're egging on a situation that you inevitably reject. Shame, shame on you.
(I'm kidding.)
Well, the only thing I can really add here is that, honestly, if I know one of my buddies is well-hung too -- straight or gay -- I gotta admit that that fact initiates a special bond. Whether my hung bud and I are vocal about what we're packing or not, it's still something unique that we share in common. And as I was explaining to another friend of mine earlier this evening, fact is, even as a predominantly (but not totally) straight guy on the scale, I'm pretty secure and comfortable about my dick and about other guys in general. 'Cause let's face it -- if I'm hard and I gotta deal with it and my buddy's in on it and we're both agreeable to it, I don't see anything wrong with pounding the pud. And while it'd be really cool if my poundin' bro of choice was packing too, regardless of my friend's endowment, my comfort level probably wouldn't change.
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I have to agree with the poster who observed that a guy who has sex with another guy isn't straight. For this very reason (and I hate to break it to any totally gay guys on here who may hope for otherwise) it is my opinion that str8 guys truly don't have ANY desire to have sex with another guy or see another guys cock etc. All the ones that do, well guess what? you aren't str8, you're BI...and you don't have to have full on 'sex' to be bi. A 99% str8 guy who likes to look at other big cocks or is addicted to this board qualifies as bi in my opinion.
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What a GREAT topic! Where do I start? Most people that have posted here (even if I disagree) have some valid points.
On the Kinsey scale, I am 5. I am gay (by the label and by what I prefer) but I think some women are hot and not all men are...period! I'd do Heather, Haley or Tom and Brad (or both at the same time
but I wouldn't do an ugly chick or guy. I would take Tom Cruise over Heather because I prefer men.
Now about experimenting.....I had a few mutual j/o sessions with my totally straight best friend growing up AND I wasn't sexually attracted OR aroused by him.
I think it's mostly the gay insecure guys that say that all guys are gay and can't handle "bi" or that it doesn't exhist, but PLEASE don't ever think (and I like who commented that they had a gay experience to see if they liked it...what an honest stud and secure hetro man...learn you insecure straight and homos) that an act does not make you prefer something (I like the eat a vegetable and become vegetarian).
My dad is 100% straight and so is my brother (you can tell) and I am 90% gay and 10% straight. I dislike, but know some sissy/faggy/guys) and I know they even hate the idea of having sex with a woman, but to each their own. So, I think Kinsey (I hope I spelled that correctly) is correct! So we have a range and only the insecure people even worry about the others. Think about it? I really haven't given much thought to who anyone sleeps with...and I am 8 inches long
I have a couple hung friends (really hung like 10+) and two of them are very shy about it (I wouldn't be) and one just whips it out all the time (and I am not attracted to him) and I think he is 100 straight (and I don't care if he screws around with a guys because I DON"T care) but I admire his "powers". He gets laid all the time (and he'll even do ugly chicks so my feeling (and I know I am right ) is that again it's not the dick size (because I think al three friends are 100% straight) but the person. My one friend whips his out like an animal does to dominate the males (not sexually) and mark his territory of the "unattached" females. So think about what I just said! This is my straight friend. I don't know any hung gay guys but they would be doing the same but over all the males.
Secure guys are the best....insecurity is a turn off
On the Kinsey scale, I am 5. I am gay (by the label and by what I prefer) but I think some women are hot and not all men are...period! I'd do Heather, Haley or Tom and Brad (or both at the same time
but I wouldn't do an ugly chick or guy. I would take Tom Cruise over Heather because I prefer men.Now about experimenting.....I had a few mutual j/o sessions with my totally straight best friend growing up AND I wasn't sexually attracted OR aroused by him.
I think it's mostly the gay insecure guys that say that all guys are gay and can't handle "bi" or that it doesn't exhist, but PLEASE don't ever think (and I like who commented that they had a gay experience to see if they liked it...what an honest stud and secure hetro man...learn you insecure straight and homos) that an act does not make you prefer something (I like the eat a vegetable and become vegetarian).
My dad is 100% straight and so is my brother (you can tell) and I am 90% gay and 10% straight. I dislike, but know some sissy/faggy/guys) and I know they even hate the idea of having sex with a woman, but to each their own. So, I think Kinsey (I hope I spelled that correctly) is correct! So we have a range and only the insecure people even worry about the others. Think about it? I really haven't given much thought to who anyone sleeps with...and I am 8 inches long
I have a couple hung friends (really hung like 10+) and two of them are very shy about it (I wouldn't be) and one just whips it out all the time (and I am not attracted to him) and I think he is 100 straight (and I don't care if he screws around with a guys because I DON"T care) but I admire his "powers". He gets laid all the time (and he'll even do ugly chicks
so my feeling (and I know I am right ) is that again it's not the dick size (because I think al three friends are 100% straight) but the person. My one friend whips his out like an animal does to dominate the males (not sexually) and mark his territory of the "unattached" females. So think about what I just said! This is my straight friend. I don't know any hung gay guys but they would be doing the same but over all the males.Secure guys are the best....insecurity is a turn off
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BCH, very good post! I think entirely too much time is spent on telling other people what they are, when it should be a matter for self-proclamation. Only the person inside can know who they are attracted to, and it sometimes takes some searching. I have had several lesbian experiences, and have discovered that I am 100% hetero, no two ways about it. I'm not sexually into women at all, but how could I say that without trying it, anbd giving it a fair shake? Now if some less evloved creature out there says that because I tried it, I'm part bisexual, they simply don't know me at all, but that's okay. I'll still eat my cornflakes in the morning and life will go on. Personally, I despise "contempt prior to investigation"- I think it is the mark of an idiot, so how could anyone come to know their preference if there's no room for experimentation? Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, and you pretty well have to try asparagus to know if you like it, you just can't make that determination by someone else's description.
BCH makes a good point:
I think for straight guys, being well-endowed is more about asserting power...just like being tall, strong, etc. In college, I once had a female friend remark that all of the girls knew that I was "hung." When I asked how did she know this, she replied that a girl that I had "hooked-up" with had spread the word. This did not surprise me too much, since I know how women like to talk. However, this female friend then remarked that all of the guys (friends) knew as well. When I asked how this was possible, she had the same answer...talk gets around.
My only point here is that even my straight guy friends had, at least on occasion, spoken to each other about my endowment. Initially one of them found out from my loose-lipped hook-up when she was likely drunk. But how did the other guys know. Surely she didn't have time or occasion to blab to 15 guys. These guys spread the word because it's a novelty and an issue of both jealousy and respect. Much like men brag about their friend who is a star football player. Like animals, human males have alphas as well.
This is why straight men have no problem showing bulge in the hot-tub, or indirectly letting guys know that you're hung. It's not to excite them, or yourself, sexually, but serves a function of assertaining a certain role. The ultimate end is to use it to get chicks of course, and if guys end up respecting you along the way, all the better (just consider how straight guys are always in awe of Ron Jeremy).
I think for straight guys, being well-endowed is more about asserting power...just like being tall, strong, etc. In college, I once had a female friend remark that all of the girls knew that I was "hung." When I asked how did she know this, she replied that a girl that I had "hooked-up" with had spread the word. This did not surprise me too much, since I know how women like to talk. However, this female friend then remarked that all of the guys (friends) knew as well. When I asked how this was possible, she had the same answer...talk gets around.
My only point here is that even my straight guy friends had, at least on occasion, spoken to each other about my endowment. Initially one of them found out from my loose-lipped hook-up when she was likely drunk. But how did the other guys know. Surely she didn't have time or occasion to blab to 15 guys. These guys spread the word because it's a novelty and an issue of both jealousy and respect. Much like men brag about their friend who is a star football player. Like animals, human males have alphas as well.
This is why straight men have no problem showing bulge in the hot-tub, or indirectly letting guys know that you're hung. It's not to excite them, or yourself, sexually, but serves a function of assertaining a certain role. The ultimate end is to use it to get chicks of course, and if guys end up respecting you along the way, all the better (just consider how straight guys are always in awe of Ron Jeremy).
