Straight men, gay internet fantasies?

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I'm not saying you have to out everybody. I respect people's privacy.

However, I think some closeted jerk, who pretends to hate gays publicly and encourages other guys to ridicule them and even beat them up is a lying scumbag hypocrite with no stones. I'm telling you I've known people like this - I've seen good people get hurt because of them, and they are pure dickless scum.

Uh...in my humble opinion, of course. :smile:
 

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I wonder if we should consider some of our basic animalist instincts that I believe we all possess deep down inside; that male animals are naturally curious about other males in terms of dominance and breeding. We want to see what the other guy has to see if he is a threat to our territory, mates etc…… perhaps that explains the curiosity of the so called straight males that participate on or view so many gay websites. ( I am not implying that this is a Gay oriented website)
The WWW has become a place for us to be out in comfort that we can not enjoy in the real world. Having been brought up in the Western US with similar fears that were brought up in Brokeback Mountain about being found out and dealt with in a violent way or ostracized by everyone that I care about, forums like this are a release and a sanctuary where we can be who we really are yet still be our persona in the rest of our life.
 

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prickleyguy said:
I wonder if we should consider some of our basic animalist instincts that I believe we all possess deep down inside; that male animals are naturally curious about other males in terms of dominance and breeding. We want to see what the other guy has to see if he is a threat to our territory, mates etc…… perhaps that explains the curiosity of the so called straight males that participate on or view so many gay websites.

Now that is an interesting question Prickleyguy. Are straight males just "checking" out the competition, to make sure they have the stronghold on the dominance and mating? I can definetaly see that point, on a subconcious level.

Also, some men may just be testing the waters to see what the big deal is. They have heard the "new fad" called homosexuality,(I know it is far from new) and are curious to see what all the fuss is about. So they talk to other men, get to know them and see if it is worth looking into.

I don't remeber who said it,(Mkymkus?) but someone mentioned about straight guys using their power. I really agree with this one. IMO, guys are cocky. Period.

Sometimes, guys may just want to get an ego boost. Trying to lure a gay man and turning them on, would give you just that boost. It is flattering that the guy responds. I know I have flirted with one or two guys in real life, just to see if I could get them to recipricate. When they do, you just feel a bit better about yourself.

Plus, you get to use a bunch of suggestive phrases, and we all know what fun that is:rolleyes:
 

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GuyanaPrince said:
I'm not saying you have to out everybody. I respect people's privacy.

However, I think some closeted jerk, who pretends to hate gays publicly and encourages other guys to ridicule them and even beat them up is a lying scumbag hypocrite with no stones. I'm telling you I've known people like this - I've seen good people get hurt because of them, and they are pure dickless scum.

Uh...in my humble opinion, of course. :smile:

Eddie Murphy comes to mind as a good example of this. He, IMO, spent much of is life hating himself and focusing that hate into comedy sketches that poked fun at and belittled gay men. Go figure.

Keep in mind that this type of thought/action hypocrisy is not exclusive to sexulaity. I tend to think similarly (as you do) about people of European decent who hate poeple of color and who tan like crazy because they don't want to be "pale, white and ugly." Michael Jackson would be an example of this phenomena from "The Bluest Eye" perspective (i.e., a person of color wanting more traditionally European features/beauty).

When the mind and body are that vastly out of synch, it is truly a signal of deep-rooted dysfunction.

Sorry for going off topic--this is a fascinating thread. When I joined LPSG(as Lex Man), I thought of myself as straight. After months of chatting, of exploiring flirting/camming with other guys and really understanding my attraction to men,
I decided to change my percentages to 50/50.

Now, years later, I stand at 60/40. Tomorrrow--who knows? As all have already stated much more eloquently than I--sexuality is vastly complicated. There are days when I feel like changing my percentages based on how I feel that day (or week). Sigh.
 

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:rolleyes:"Now, years later, I stand at 60/40. Tomorrrow--who knows? As all have already stated much more eloquently than I--sexuality is vastly complicated. There are days when I feel like changing my percentages based on how I feel that day (or week). Sigh."

I guess in my perfect world it would be nice to be able to be intimate with whomever you are with M?F when the mood stikes........:rolleyes:
 

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Alex, this is an awesome topic dude.

I'll admit that I've done a lot of joking and teasing with guys on here. To me, LPSG is sort of my refuge when I just want to cut loose and have fun. It's relaxing to come to a place without any real boundaries. For myself, I'm solidly straight (sorry guys), and I believe that most people I interact with know that here, so there aren't any hurt feelings. However it's just fun for me to jump into things like fleshpiles as it's not really the norm.

Am I an attention whore? Sure. :rolleyes: I'm a sponge for attention (the good kind) as I thrive when I feel accepted. Of course this is just for me personally.

I know there are plenty of "straight" guys on here. I don't doubt that many of us have been the targets of their attentions. I've been probed off and on by them while they're looking for someone that may be in the same place as they are...looking for someone that is flexible like they may perceive themselves to be.
 

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I get hit on all the time by straight guys when I'm online, and I've run into just about every one of those circumstances. I've heard, "I'm straight, married, and have 0-10 kids, but..." so many times, that I couldn't begin to count them. Some are definitely just flat out lying, some are closet cases, and the others have been genuinely straight guys with any number of curiosities.

For me, that's what it's always come down to in the end. No matter how they self-identify, guys are curious about something, and the internet gives them the anonymity to find out what they want to know. "I want to do anal with my girlfriend, and noticed in your profile you've been with guys, so I thought who'd know better than a fag (his wording) how to do it." The ever-popular, "Is it true guys give better head, and if so, why?" "I think I'm a good size, but I had this chick tell me it's small, so I'm comparing cock sizes. Do you show yours?" "Guys into guys are supposed to be picky and have good taste. If i was gay would you fuck me?" "I see you've been with guys. Ever been fucked? Wanna be? I wanna see what it's like to control a guy by putting my cock in his ass." "I LOVE getting head, but my wife hates to do it, so I thought if a guy did it for me, it wouldn't be cheating." Most of these are from the past couple weeks. There are a ton more, but you get the idea.

When I ask if they've ever done anything with a guy, or if they're really looking to do it, some say, "Yes", but just as many say, "Oh, hell no. That's why I'm talking to YOU. You're __ thousand miles away." Again, as Alex mentioned the case of the phone operators, we all know that the same removal from face-to-face exchanges has made us use email and messaging in general, in a way many would never communicate in person. Personally, I admit, I'm one of the offenders. Somewhat similar to Altairion, although I admit I'm not "solidly straight" :wink: , I flirt a LOT more online than I would ever do in person, and I totally love it. Would I actually consider doing some of the things I've chatted about on this board? I might, depending on who suggested them. :tongue: Although, I really don't know how it's even possible to position 4 people for that one-hole triple penetration. :rolleyes:
 

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Altairion said:
For myself, I'm solidly straight (sorry guys), and I believe that most people I interact with know that here, so there aren't any hurt feelings.

No no hurt feelings Altairion. I'm solidly gay (sorry gals), and I too believe that most people I interact with know that here.

(... oddly some straight males in here don't appear to however:33:)
 

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Stronzo said:
No no hurt feelings Altairion. I'm solidly gay (sorry gals), and I too believe that most people I interact with know that here.

(... oddly some straight males in here don't appear to however:33:)

Heh poor Stronzo...getting hit on by "straight" guys. I never really thought about it much, but that does have to get annoying. I like to talk to geniune people here, and it does get annoying dealing with people that are obviously putting up a front.

Matthew said:
Is it getting hot in here, or is it just me?

Oh sorry. *Gets off of you. :rolleyes:
 

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Stronzo said:
No no hurt feelings Altairion. I'm solidly gay (sorry gals), and I too believe that most people I interact with know that here.

(... oddly some straight males in here don't appear to however:33:)

Awwww...well Stronzo...you know I
will always be a buddy even though
I can't lust after the bod! :smile:
 

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I'm 100% straight in the real world as well as online.

I've had PM's in the past off supposedly 100% straight guys...some of the things they said were shocking lol and some are persistent.

As for me, I'd prefer to try out heterosexual fantasies wherever and whenever possible.
 

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For the str8 guys then, is the "flirting" or however you want to term it, just something that you turn off in real life or just keep to yourself? For example, you see a good looking guy and try not to look or there's just no "there" there for you IRL. (I hope this makes sense.)
 

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Altairion said:
Heh poor Stronzo...getting hit on by "straight" guys. I never really thought about it much, but that does have to get annoying. I like to talk to geniune people here, and it does get annoying dealing with people that are obviously putting up a front.

I tell ya .. and they accuse us of being the aggressors.:rolleyes:

For every 10 pms I get (from people I genuinely like) there's one from some lurking lecher who professes to want to be my "buddy". Uh huh.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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Altairion said:
Heh poor Stronzo...getting hit on by "straight" guys. I never really thought about it much, but that does have to get annoying. I like to talk to genuine people here, and it does get annoying dealing with people that are obviously putting up a front.

You see, that was my take on this until recently. But I really do think that the virtual 'experience' has to be considered differently and that it redefines (in online practice at least) the boundaries of terms such as "straight" or "gay" to such an extent that these need to be evaluated differently than they would be in real life. I don't think it necessarily makes the people behind these terms any less genuine, it just means that they are exploring the boundaries of their 'label' within a more fluid realm.

Fakers may well be annoying (although they too are caught up in this whole experimentation thing as well, as they experiment with what it is like to be someone else and find out how they would be treated if they were other than the person they are in real life; of course, I see this more negatively, as they are effacing themselves rather thanadding a new element to themselves, as per those playing with boundaries online), but I think to claim that those challenging the limits of their own sexuality are not 'genuine' is actually doing those people a disservice to some extent.
 

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alex8 said:
Fakers may well be annoying (although they too are caught up in this whole experimentation thing as well, as they experiment with what it is like to be someone else and find out how they would be treated if they were other than the person they are in real life; of course, I see this more negatively, as they are effacing themselves rather thanadding a new element to themselves, as per those playing with boundaries online), but I think to claim that those challenging the limits of their own sexuality are not 'genuine' is actually doing those people a disservice to some extent.

Good point Alex. I should have been a bit clearer. As long as people can admit that they're not totally straight instead of completely falling back on denials I'm totally cool with them. Even I can admit I'm not 100% straight, so to me it shouldn't be hard for people that are feeling strong urges towards the homosexual side of the spectrum to take a small step to admitting what they already know to be true. Of course we all have our own set of definitions to what each action means, but we also live in a world where other people define out actions as well.

Lesson of the Day: Life is too damn complicated