straight men have sex with men - shocker?!

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I have to weigh in here and say I think it's different for men and women. Men are total sluts - they are constantly making and filling up with semen which needs to be released, and if they don't have a viable female and are straight (as in prison) if they're highly-sexed, I can see how something might happen there.

For me as a straight woman, it's entirely different. It repulses me to consider anything sexual with another woman and I am so totally into men's phalli and balls I could never consider anything less - that male/female magnetism, that erotic pull is so strong and seductive, satisfying - woman to woman just does nothing like that for me.

Now, I'm certain there are lesbians who get into women heavily, but straight women? They are not going to be interested in anything that doesn't have a dick and balls, and preferably big ones.
 

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That ain't his gallery bru'. The gallery extends indefinitely unless you click on see this user's gallery. If you just click through pics you end up in gallery after gallery.
 

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My response is -- In that case there is a VERY LOW percentage of str8 guys. I'm basing that on the number of married guys I've fooled around with, my friends have fooled around with

If you think about this for a while, this really says more about you and the people that you surround yourself with than it does for the general popluation.

things that happen in prisons, the military, and other all male environments.

shoving these into the same category as the people you hang with is like mixing apples and oranges. You can't use or any of them to prove the other.

If you say ANY sexual contact with another man means not str8, then I think you have to reverse the percentages and only about 10% of the population is str8.

And they all live in my subdivision! :frown1:
 

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^^ Well since married guys ARE by and large considered to be a large part of the general population, your point is invalid.

If men in an all male environment so frequently have sexual contact with other men, that tells me something about how the male brain is wired. Just because a str8 guy hasn't had sexual contact with another guy YET, doesn't mean he won't.
 

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Yea right. There's no such thing as a "straight" man who has sex with men. They are either bi or gay, which there is nothing wrong with. I can buy into a man being naturally curious as to what sex with another man is like, even if there's no attraction to them, but if they are curious enough to actually want to do the nasty, they aren't straight.

Well said.

I'm not one of those queer men who thinks that deep down inside every single man even straight men somehow want or have sex with other men. That's just ignorant and not true.

BDD-Most men don't wind up in prison and just because a guy is in prison doesn't mean that he'll have sex with men or get raped or anything.

While the military is an all male environment mostly, it's not some huge orgy like you see in gay porn and I've heard about how if you're bisexual or gay in the military there's the whole "Don't ask Don't tell" BS where if you come out you will get kicked out.

Also just because a guy is straight and in the military how does that mean that he'll somehow wind up having sex with men? If he's straight he's not going to have or want sex with other men at all even if he is in the military.

Just because the guy is married to a woman that doesn't make him straight or heterosexual. If he has sex with men or wants it and he's married to a woman that just makes him a closeted gay or bisexual guy.

I understand that there are a lot of married and even single closeted and in denial gay/bisexual men out there but they're not the majority of the population.
 

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Also just because a guy is straight and in the military how does that mean that he'll somehow wind up having sex with men? If he's straight he's not going to have or want sex with other men at all even if he is in the military.
There's a lot of homoerotic teasing in the military. Kind of makes you wonder, but I only had one guy when I was in the Army who really pursued me hard after I told him I wasn't interested. Had one captain I'm pretty sure was gay. He was not over the top, but he was swish.
 

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Shocking? No . . . .

Excellent news, though!

What's the point of getting excited about closeted men?

I've dealt with them, never slept with one but IME they're more trouble than they are worth.

FWIW I rarely post on message boards with lots of bisexual/gay men since I get bored of the way that lots of them think that all men, even straight men somehow secretly want sex with men or have it just because they do. :rolleyes:

Then of course if you suggest, or question the gay men who think that all men are somehow bisexual why they aren't bisexual too, or why they aren't out having sex with women they get their panties in a bunch over someone questioning their homosexuality and saying that it doesn't exist or that it's rare or other BS, when they are doing the exact same thing with straight men and heterosexuality by claiming that most or all men secretly want or have sex with men even if they are heterosexual.
 
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There's a lot of homoerotic teasing in the military. Kind of makes you wonder, but I only had one guy when I was in the Army who really pursued me hard after I told him I wasn't interested. Had one captain I'm pretty sure was gay. He was not over the top, but he was swish.

Just because a guy is camp, swishy, or femmey that doesn't mean that he's gay.

I've had male bosses who were camp and acted femmey but they were completely heterosexual.

The one guy spent a lot of time in the UK, and the other guy was just naturally androgynous and both are straight.

Of course you're going to find closeted bi/gay men in the military and in society but that doesn't mean that just because a guy says that he's heterosexual or straight that he is, since straight men don't go out and seek out sex with men, or want sex with men.
 

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^^ Well since married guys ARE by and large considered to be a large part of the general population, your point is invalid.

If men in an all male environment so frequently have sexual contact with other men, that tells me something about how the male brain is wired. Just because a str8 guy hasn't had sexual contact with another guy YET, doesn't mean he won't.

*helgaleena strokes her chin like Spock* Fascinating. Whatever else this shows, there must be many fewer '100% straight' men than reported.
 

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Also just because a guy is straight and in the military how does that mean that he'll somehow wind up having sex with men?

Not all will of course. But horniness and lack of female companionship can make a person rethink their options. I'm basing this on my experiences and the experiences I've heard about from reliable sources. Lots of guys from Twentynine Palms Marine Base seem to wind up at the gay sex resorts in Palm Springs. Many town with military bases nearby have adult video stores where the guys go for blowjobs. Yes, there are often also hookers in these red light districts, and massage parlors etc. but the number of men who are 100% straight is much less than is generally presumed by the public
 

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Not all will of course. But horniness and lack of female companionship can make a person rethink their options. I'm basing this on my experiences and the experiences I've heard about from reliable sources. Lots of guys from Twentynine Palms Marine Base seem to wind up at the gay sex resorts in Palm Springs. Many town with military bases nearby have adult video stores where the guys go for blowjobs. Yes, there are often also hookers in these red light districts, and massage parlors etc. but the number of men who are 100% straight is much less than is generally presumed by the public

If they're going to gay bars/resorts, all male sex clubs, or having sex with men in adult bookstores they were not heterosexual to begin with.
 

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Whether the it's locker room, straight porn, prisons or the military, homosexual undertones abound. That speaks volumes about what's on the average man's mind (homosexual thoughts, yes, are in the "straightest" of minds).

The majority of heterosexual men are probably never going to experiment with another man as an adult as there is too much to lose in doing so (reputation, guilt, rumors, discrimanation, etc). Besides, their attraction to women brings much pleasure and satisfaction, so why mess everything up with a gay encounter that may turn out to be anything but pleasurable. One can be curious about gay sex, but sometimes what a person likes in his mind is not always what he likes in reality.

It is also important to make a distinction between orientation and preference. I believe that there are lots of men who are 100% heterosexual in preference, but not in orientation (not that all men are truly bisexual, either).

Finally, whether the it's locker room, straight porn, prisons or the military, homosexual undertones abound. That speaks volumes about what's on the average man's mind (homosexual thoughts, yes, are in the "straightest" of minds).
 

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Whether the it's locker room, straight porn, prisons or the military, homosexual undertones abound. That speaks volumes about what's on the average man's mind (homosexual thoughts, yes, are in the "straightest" of minds).

The majority of heterosexual men are probably never going to experiment with another man as an adult as there is too much to lose in doing so (reputation, guilt, rumors, discrimanation, etc). Besides, their attraction to women brings much pleasure and satisfaction, so why mess everything up with a gay encounter that may turn out to be anything but pleasurable. One can be curious about gay sex, but sometimes what a person likes in his mind is not always what he likes in reality.

It is also important to make a distinction between orientation and preference. I believe that there are lots of men who are 100% heterosexual in preference, but not in orientation (not that all men are truly bisexual, either).

Finally, whether the it's locker room, straight porn, prisons or the military, homosexual undertones abound. That speaks volumes about what's on the average man's mind (homosexual thoughts, yes, are in the "straightest" of minds).

Bull29= Just because you yourself are a closet case, wish that you and every guy was gay or bisexual, or think that every guy somehow wants sex with men or desires it does not mean that somehow all men even straight men want sex with men like you wish. I'm not heterosexual and I know this about myself but when I came out to my dad and my straight male friends I believe them when they said how they've never had any sexual attraction towards men at all and don't think about other men sexually at all. I'm out as a gay man and when you said how you suffer rumors, guilt, discrimination, etc. that's total BS since I have never had any of those happen to me. I'm out to my friends and family and out at work and my parents and close friends have been nothing but accepting of me and the male partners who I have had over the years. In Western society and in America gay and bisexual men and women have it easy since it's not like in Jamaica or the Middle East where you can be killed for being gay or bisexual or for being a bisexual or Lesbian woman. Have you ever been in a men's locker room or in the military? Unless it's a locker room where public sex goes on between men who are bisexual and gay if straight men are there there's no homosexual undertone and the same goes for the military if you have actually ever been in it.
 
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Bull29= Just because you yourself are a closet case, wish that you and every guy was gay or bisexual, or think that every guy somehow wants sex with men or desires it does not mean that somehow all men even straight men want sex with men like you wish. I'm not heterosexual and I know this about myself but when I came out to my dad and my straight male friends I believe them when they said how they've never had any sexual attraction towards men at all and don't think about other men sexually at all. I'm out as a gay man and when you said how you suffer rumors, guilt, discrimination, etc. that's total BS since I have never had any of those happen to me. I'm out to my friends and family and out at work and my parents and close friends have been nothing but accepting of me and the male partners who I have had over the years. In Western society and in America gay and bisexual men and women have it easy since it's not like in Jamaica or the Middle East where you can be killed for being gay or bisexual or for being a bisexual or Lesbian woman. Have you ever been in a men's locker room or in the military? Unless it's a locker room where public sex goes on between men who are bisexual and gay if straight men are there there's no homosexual undertone and the same goes for the military if you have actually ever been in it.

Hi. Obviously you didn't read my last post very well.:eek: Where do I say that all men are gay or bisexual? LOL.
 

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Hi. Obviously you didn't read my last post very well.:eek: ...
That, and he has a writing style, and haunts all of the same themed threads that give him away as someone multiply banned in the past, and get him banned again within hours of joining, but I digress. :rolleyes:
 

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Bull29= Just because you yourself are a closet case, wish that you and every guy was gay or bisexual, or think that every guy somehow wants sex with men or desires it does not mean that somehow all men even straight men want sex with men like you wish. I'm not heterosexual and I know this about myself but when I came out to my dad and my straight male friends I believe them when they said how they've never had any sexual attraction towards men at all and don't think about other men sexually at all. I'm out as a gay man and when you said how you suffer rumors, guilt, discrimination, etc. that's total BS since I have never had any of those happen to me. I'm out to my friends and family and out at work and my parents and close friends have been nothing but accepting of me and the male partners who I have had over the years. In Western society and in America gay and bisexual men and women have it easy since it's not like in Jamaica or the Middle East where you can be killed for being gay or bisexual or for being a bisexual or Lesbian woman. Have you ever been in a men's locker room or in the military? Unless it's a locker room where public sex goes on between men who are bisexual and gay if straight men are there there's no homosexual undertone and the same goes for the military if you have actually ever been in it.

I'm happy to be able to back up BIGBULL in this instance
1) You are extrapolating from what bull said facts based on your own life which has nothing to do with his.
2) I know for a fact that he is heterosexual and not a "closet clase" as you called him.
Nice way to denigrate others from a gay man I'd think you be sensitive to
calling a man who isn't what he appears to be names.
3 It is not easy being gay in America you may still be killed in any place for being gay/lesbian/transexual not just in some third world country.
4) Their are gay men in the military we have quite a few members who are active and retired military men right here on lpsg.
5 Bull has been discriminated against and that I am one of those who wrongly assumed that he was bisexual just from watching him interact with myself and others which had NO bearing on who or what he likes.
I assumed facts not in eveidence as you are doing now.
Bull I am sorry that I hurt you by assuming you might be bisexual and it was not my intention to ever hurt you, make you suffer from guilt or discriminate against you because of my thoughtlessness.
I am sorry sweetness.
I suggest as does novi that you are a previously banned someone.
C.B.:saevil: