Straight Men Having Sex Or Kissing Gay Men To Solidify Their Mateship ?

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I've heard a lot about this and was wondering if it were true - that some straight men want to show how much they really care about their gay or bi mates and actually having sex with them or kissing them right on the lips so they can physically show their mate how much they appreciate them and want to feel close to them more than normal.
This amazed me when I first heard about it tbh, but also very intrigued and interested too as it kind of blurred the line between sex being used as purely for release of sexual urge but also could be used to convey a close bond that a straight male might otherwise not be able to show to his gay mate with words alone. An extreme case of the action speaking louder than the words as it were.
 

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Well one of my straight friends always really hugs me and gives me a well planted kiss on the cheek. It shows me he loves me and he doesn't do this with straight men. I never heard of more from a straight man as a friend.
 

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I have a couple of friends that when we see each other and it has been a while we shake hands and hug. I have a couple of friends that when we see each other we shake hands and hug and a kiss on the cheek (face lol). Any of my str8 male friends that when we see each other we shake hands, hug and kiss: well they are not str8. The only thing they are wanting to solidify is that they are interested in some m2m aerobics.
 

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I have a straight friend from England whom I met many years ago
when he arrived as the new North American Director of a company
with which I did business. We became fast friends and double dated
for about a year before he married an American girl. I was best man
at their wedding.

He was very handsome in a George Clooney way, and still is. A short
time after we met, we made plans to meet at a local pub. I was late,
but when I arrived, the pub was as crowded as a NYC subway at rush
hour. He gave me a big hug and kissed me on the lips...in front of all
those people! I was shocked, to say the least! I shrugged it off as
meaning nothing...:confused:...no one seemed to notice and we had
a nice evening. He lived close by me and when he left me at my house,
he gave me another hug and a big kiss on the lips. :smile:

He did the same at his wedding, and it has continued to this day, and
never seems to think anything of it. When we meet on the street, I
get the same from both he and his wife.

It was not until about 3 years ago that I told he and his wife that I was
BI. We had a long discussion and they both said they were straight, but
they didn't care what my orientation was. We still kiss on the lips!

I asked him about the kissing a while back, and was told that it was a
common thing in his family and friends in his part of England. He is from
a small place near London.

Any one from England who was been brought up the same way?
It is not a normal custom here for men to kiss even on the cheek. It is
a nice custom, and I really like it!!! Although I have had fantasies about
a 3some with he and his wife (or a 1some with either), it will never, ever
happen. I cherish our friendship too much to chance it. At first it was,
for me at least, a real turn-on, but now there are no sexual connotations
what so ever when we kiss.
 

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My friend Bill is a "good 'ol boy" from Alabama. Whenever he's in town, we'll meet up for a drink (gay or straight place) and usually he'll give me a big bear hug and a quick peck on the cheek. It's just the way he says hello to a close friend. My European straight male friends seem to kiss whenever I see them, but that's just a quick peck on the lips. Nothing more than a very friendly greeting.
 

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Why is it so difficult for people to understand that (unless you are a gay-for-pay porn star or prostitute) gay sex with another man cannot by definition be straight?

Exactly!! It's downright hilarious how some people on here try to justify "straight" men having sex for pleasure with other men. It's a true contradiction in terms.
 

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Two men having sex is gay sex, but that doesn't necessarily make them gay unless it is something they do frequently or are aroused by the thought of it. (And even there it is debatable).

If a guy is a vegetarian and one day eats a hamburger, he can still remain a vegetarian unless he eats meat all the time.

Besides, what difference does a label make? A lot of guys say they are 90% straight, or 50% gay. How do you arrive at the percentages? I arrived at my 70% straight percentage by adding up all the women I've had sex with, all the men I've had sex with, then tossing out the numbers and making something up. Actually I'm 100% straight, 70% of the time. :rolleyes:

Who cares, anyway.
 

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Two men having sex is gay sex, but that doesn't necessarily make them gay unless it is something they do frequently or are aroused by the thought of it. (And even there it is debatable).

If a guy is a vegetarian and one day eats a hamburger, he can still remain a vegetarian unless he eats meat all the time.

Besides, what difference does a label make? A lot of guys say they are 90% straight, or 50% gay. How do you arrive at the percentages? I arrived at my 70% straight percentage by adding up all the women I've had sex with, all the men I've had sex with, then tossing out the numbers and making something up. Actually I'm 100% straight, 70% of the time. :rolleyes:

Who cares, anyway.

Who cares anyway? How do you think life would be if "right" sometimes meant left and "left" sometimes meant "right" depending on some arbitrary variable? What if I called your foot a hand? What if "up" really meant down depending on whether or not the speaker was having a bad day?

The problem I have (and I fully admit this may be a product of my own psychosis) is that words in language should have definite meanings. People can't and shouldn't communicate if there is no frame of reference. Furthermore it bothers me when some (note: not all) gay or bi guys assume because I say I'm straight that really means all I need to do is be convinced and they'll be sucking my dick in no time. Sorry but life doesn't work like that.

I really don't care what someone's sexual preference is but mean what you say and say what you mean.
 

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I think you can have an emotionally intimate relationship with another male without having genital sex. It might including hugging and kissing and also cuddling in bed together. I don't think this is a big deal. It happens in many cultures but not as much in the UK or North America.
 

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Why limit affection between males to a hug or handshake?
I think the kissing is very sweet and nice.
It also shows that his friend is confident is his sexuality.
cigarbabe:saevil:
 

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Exactly!! It's downright hilarious how some people on here try to justify "straight" men having sex for pleasure with other men. It's a true contradiction in terms.

I suppose it just goes to show how important labels are. My thought is, if you are comfortable with another guy's dick in your ass (or comfortable putting your dick in another guy's ass) then you should be comfortable with the label "gay" or "bisexual." You'd think the dick in the ass part would be the difficult part, and the label the easy part. But then what the hell do I know? :rolleyes:
 

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Why limit affection between males to a hug or handshake?
I think the kissing is very sweet and nice.
It also shows that his friend is confident is his sexuality.
cigarbabe:saevil:

But the only true way to show you are confident in your sexuality is to let the other guy get deep inside you, just plow your asshole. That's the ultimate proof that you are confident in your heterosexuality and are just close friends with your gay buddy. :wink:
 

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Is kissing sex???

Duh!

Don't they teach you people anything over there? This is our sex ed curriculum in American schools:

When a man and a woman love each other very very much they get married. That means they only love each other in a very special way. Sometimes they feel that love so much that they go to bed together and hug and kiss a lot and then a baby gets made! That's why you must always wait until you are married before you hug and kiss a lot.
 

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I've heard a lot about this and was wondering if it were true - that some straight men want to show how much they really care about their gay or bi mates and actually having sex with them or kissing them right on the lips so they can physically show their mate how much they appreciate them and want to feel close to them more than normal.
:rofl: You gotta be kidding me right?! :eek: I have NEVER heard of this. It might happen in America; but those men are NOT straight, they are gay or bisexual.
This amazed me when I first heard about it tbh, but also very intrigued and interested too as it kind of blurred the line between sex being used as purely for release of sexual urge but also could be used to convey a close bond that a straight male might otherwise not be able to show to his gay mate with words alone. An extreme case of the action speaking louder than the words as it were.

Two men having sex is gay sex, but that doesn't necessarily make them gay unless it is something they do frequently or are aroused by
the thought of it. (And even there it is debatable)
You should have stopped at the first comma. That's the end of the sentence.
If a guy is a vegetarian and one day eats a hamburger, he can still remain a vegetarian unless he eats meat all the time.

Call it semantics; but that is so not the same thing and you know it.:rolleyes:

Who cares anyway? How do you think life would be if "right" sometimes meant left and "left" sometimes meant "right" depending on some arbitrary variable? What if I called your foot a hand? What if "up" really meant down depending on whether or not the speaker was having a bad day?
But that topsy-turvy world of right sometimes meaning left and down sometimes meaning up does not exist. There are finite definitions; but for some reason y'all are uncomfortable with them and choose to either disregard them or make up new words. That's bull shit. :12: Cause then the rest of the world thinks you're nuts. :rolleyes:

The problem I have (and I fully admit this may be a product of my own psychosis) is that words in language should have definite meanings. People can't and shouldn't communicate if there is no frame of reference. Furthermore it bothers me when some (note: not all) gay or bi guys assume because I say I'm straight that really means all I need to do is be convinced and they'll be sucking my dick in no time. Sorry but life doesn't work like that.

You want a frame of reference, here it is: 100% straight men, do not fantasize about sucking dick, being sucked by Matt Damon, fucking Brad Pitt or being fucked by George Clooney. They don't even fantasize about sex with or kissing other men. Not even their best friend and certainly not their brother or cousin. Eeewww, thats just gross! :yuck: :puke:

I really don't care what someone's sexual preference is but mean what you say and say what you mean.
I agree. If you are a male with 100% straight in your profile, don't start chatting me up then let it slip how every Friday after work you go to the local gay bar or glory hole to suck cock. I'm from New Jersey, that's not 100% straight behavior. :rolleyes: :duh: Also, if you like to top; but never bottom, or kiss men, you are not 100% straight. :cool: If you like having your penis in the orifice of another man you are at least bi-sexual and possibly homosexual. This is fine, just be honest with yourself and others about it.

I think you can have an emotionally intimate relationship with another male without having genital sex.
Agreed.
It might including hugging and kissing and also cuddling in bed together. I don't think this is a big deal.
Huh? :confused: Uhm no, sorry dude but; 100% straight men do not hug, kiss, and/or cuddle each other.

It happens in many cultures but not as much in the UK or North America. [/QUOTE]
Educate me, where are these cultures? Is it some sort of African, Asian, or South American thing? I'm not trying to be a b*&#h but I've been reading Smithsonian and National Geographic off and on for years. I think If I had read something like that I would have remembered. :rolleyes:

Also why does this thinking not extend to women. I have some really close girlfriends. We have on occassion shared a bed, okay maybe passed out drunk in the same bed is more accurate; but at no point in time did we start hugging, kissing, or cuddling. :cool:
 

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Why limit affection between males to a hug or handshake?
I think the kissing is very sweet and nice.
It also shows that his friend is confident is his sexuality.
cigarbabe:saevil:

The only kisses I've seen shared between males in my circle have been between fathers & sons, or brothers...

However I don't see anything wrong w/ kisses btw males...it's just that it's pretty uncommon...