Straight Men Thoughts On Social Masculine Standards

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im genuinely interested if straight men feel pressured to be a masculine figure.

as a gay man , my male heterosexual peers treat me with a sign of respect and treat me as an equal . when im around them theyre alot more feminine compared to outside our social group where they acting as “men”.

one friend in Particular had asked me if he and I will experiment, I was shocked but out of a sign of respect I kindly declined. After he had asked me he had broken up with his ex. His ex , my best friend atm , Had opened up and said he was sexually attracted to men but emotionally attached to women. And he has been hinting to meet up soon but he already has a girlfriend.

is this a sign of toxic masculinity?
 

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There's two questions here. No I don't feel pressured to be overtly masculine. Sure society wants men to be a certain way but I've never felt any pressure to act any differently than I already act.

And no him wanting to cheat is not toxic masculinity. That's just him being a terrible person.
 

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I don't act any differently when around straight or gay friends. And my gay friends don't act any different than my straight friends. I don't think it's a good idea to equate gay with feminine. It hasn't been my experience.
 

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I really don’t think society cares much if at all about what masculinity or femininity means. People do what they want.

toxic masculinity is just when someone is a jerk and also happens to be a man.
 

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OK so what's your angle, point, argument, task, purpose...?

How about if you riddle me this Batman:

I like to work on cars in my spare. My friend Mr. X likes to race bicycles, but he also has a penchant Avocado-Mango Ice Cream milk shakes. We used to go bowling together, but now he seems to be fixated on this whole bicycles thing.

After looking at this from my point of view, do you think the Lions have a shot at the Superbowl this year or should they just say fuck it and lose the rest of the season to get a first round draft pick next season?
 

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Toxic masculinity has very little to do with who you're attracted to physically or emotionally, it has everything to do with with how you demonstrate masculinity in your life.

Toxic Masculinity primarily include acts of misogyny, homophobia, and violent domination over someone or a situation where it isn't called for. Your friend doesn't seem to be displaying any of these qualities, but he does seem like he's still working some stuff out and learning about himself.
 
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I think I might be more relaxed around close friends (gay or straight) but around social aquaintances or in public... I think I feel different pressure around gay guys than I do around straight guys. Straight guys, you have to "keep up with the macho". With gay guys you have to make sure that you being comfortable isn't taken as an invitation to push boundaries (speaking from experience, not from assumptions)
 

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There's two questions here. No I don't feel pressured to be overtly masculine. Sure society wants men to be a certain way but I've never felt any pressure to act any differently than I already act.

And no him wanting to cheat is not toxic masculinity. That's just him being a terrible person.

Ditto
 

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Oh brother... it's not toxic masculinity, which doesn't exist, it's a bad person being a bad person.
So women who cheat... are they an example of "toxic femininity"?? No??? Why not??
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Looks like a super straight gesture between 100% straight men:

The grabber looks like he's got a boner while grabbing. LOL.

Straight men are so repressed in North American societies. Tragic.


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Looks like a super straight gesture between 100% straight men:

The grabber looks like he's got a boner while grabbing. LOL.

Straight men are so repressed in North American societies. Tragic.


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I'm trying to understand this homoerotic behavior between 100% straight men. Who wants to explain it? Is toxic masculinity so terrible that 100% straight men have to resort to rough dick-grabbing to release inner homosexual desires?
 

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a fat slob is what it defines today...
This is just dumb. Fat=toxic masculinity? So a fit or skinny male can’t display TM? Is the TM level based on their BMI? TM is dudes overcompensating and exaggerating their version of what “manly” is. In my life experience, it’s typically miserable people who feel physically/mentally/sexually inferior, or “beta” as they now say. Has nothing to do with who you want to fuck, it’s a leftover, garbage trait from the caveman days that evolution hasn’t taken care of yet.
 
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Oh brother... it's not toxic masculinity, which doesn't exist, it's a bad person being a bad person.
So women who cheat... are they an example of "toxic femininity"?? No??? Why not??
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No. It does exist. Sexuality is tied up in masculinity. It's why even with gay or bisexual men there's always this over compensation to be manly. They don't lift weights because they like the way it makes them look. It's defense and all that. It's always in relation to other men. What other men might think. A person who is just bad isn't that specific in whose opinion they care about.

With toxic masculinity the guy has to care more about what other guys think than the safety of women and/or other gay and bisexual men. As in the push to seem masculinity becomes toxic because it's more important than both morality and logic.

I would say toxic femininity also exists. As in women or gay/bisexual men who take on the role of submission so much and for the sake of other people that it becomes more important than logic and morality as well. Like those who agree with religious ideas that women are less than men.

So the example wouldn't be women who cheat but women who stay with a cheater out of tradition. That tradition being that men can do whatever they want and women can't. Or shouldn't.
 

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This is just dumb. Fat=toxic masculinity? So a fit or skinny male can’t display TM? Is the TM level based on their BMI? TM is dudes overcompensating and exaggerating their version of what “manly” is. In my life experience, it’s typically miserable people who feel physically/mentally/sexually inferior, or “beta” as they now say. Has nothing to do with who you want to fuck, it’s a leftover, garbage trait from the caveman days that evolution hasn’t taken care of yet.
evolution is taking care of it with disease :) :skull::skull: i think covid is great it gets rid of the garbage quickly and swiftly..
 

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I'm trying to understand this homoerotic behavior between 100% straight men. Who wants to explain it? Is toxic masculinity so terrible that 100% straight men have to resort to rough dick-grabbing to release inner homosexual desires?
I care little about sports and less about their players. My guess would be they are bi or gay. People reach the top by their abilities not by their private life.
I heard about a dirty coach that would encourage his players to do whatever they can to make the opponent overreact I guess touching the opponent genitals can do the trick. This isn’t even the case since they look of the same team.
Strange to have a hardon doing sports where all goes to the muscles.
For the op cheating is bad. Why don’t you consider him bi since he states he likes to have sex with men.
The dichotomy between emotion and sex can be sweet talking, as “I will dump my wife for” you and all the lies some say when cheating. If you wanted to hear that and the behavior goes otherwise watch out.
 
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