Straight porn for gay men, what an odd concept

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Henry and Italian, I think part of your confusion could be that you have bought into the main idea of marketing straight porn to straight men: putting yourself into the character of the man, and having sex with the woman...

Agreed. I also suspect that because some straight men are turned off by the thought of gay sex, they assume that gay men are similarly disgusted by straight sex. The reality is that while gay men might not want to have sex with a woman themselves, most of them are not the least bit bothered by it--and if the guy is hot, we like to watch.

Also, not all gay men are terrified of or disgusted by vaginas.

Right.

You may be able to understand it a bit better if you relax your brain just a bit, and consider that some gay men may enjoy doing the same thing - except projecting themselves into the woman's role.

For me, it isn't a matter of projection...

As I said before, I sometimes imagine what straight sex feels like, for both the man and the woman, but I'm not projecting when I do that. I just like to watch. I'm not imagining myself having sex with these people, I'm just myself, sitting apart, watching the action. For me, watching sex is in and of itself a sexual experience, so as long as there's another guy involved--a guy that I find attractive in some way--it's good for me.

...And that's what I said in a prior post. The men in these videos are good looking, so gay men may be fantasizing that they are the woman he is having sex with.

Although that may sometimes be true, I imagine that most of the time when a gay man watches straight porn, he is NOT fantasizing that he is the woman. (That's kind of an old stereotype about gay men--that we want to be women.) Are you paying attention, Italian?
 
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Although that may sometimes be true, I imagine that most of the time when a gay man watches straight porn, he is NOT fantasizing that he is the woman. (That's kind of an old stereotype about gay men--that we want to be women.) Are you paying attention, Italian?

No. I'm not saying gay men want to be women. I'm saying that they see the good looking guy and they wish they were there, not as the woman, but as themselves, but with him. It's the fantasy.
 

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One of the biggest peeves is when I see a scene where the two are only going through the motions and aren't really into it. How many times do we see two guys about to do anal, and either one of them has a problem keeping hard? That's a sure sign that the two would rather be sharing cookie recipies instead. And sometimes, the people they pair up are just so beyond stereotypically good looking that it looks like two Billy dolls who are afraid to mess up their hair instead of getting down and dirty. I need a lil' more realism and less fantasy in porn.

Right VinylBoy! I think a lot of this has to do with the direction. They concentrate so damn much on what goes into the anus that they have the dude being fucked actually pull his cock and balls out of the way! Not at all natural and no way can any man stay hard with a director shouting in his ear to keep his cock and balls covered up. As for fantasy? Some have tried with such ridiculous plots there is no way in hell anyone can identify.
 

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What do you guys think of this? It's so unusual. Why would gay men want to watch straight porn?

I'm amazed by it. The porn we're speaking of has women in it,...I have watched gay porn out of curiosity. But it puzzles me why gay men would continue to watch straight porn, and why women would continue to watch gay porn. There probably is no explanation. Nobody can explain how each of our individual brains function and what stimulates the sexual part.

It seems that you can't accept the numerous explanations that have been given.

The majority of male actors in my str8 porn were fit and handsome. When such participants "acted" those males would be a turn on for male and female viewers who found them to be erotic.
 

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Now THIS fascinates me. It's common to hear of a man who likes to see two women together, but a woman who likes to see to men together is rare. However, I knew one lady who liked gay porn. She said that she didn't like seeing straight porn because she didn't like to see women naked, and, like someone else mentioned, the men in straight porn are often ugly. On the flipside, no women in gay porn, and the men are usually beautiful. I don't like seeing two men get it on, but I have to admit that the men in gay porn are often fuckin amazing!

there actually is a rather new "gay" porn niche which has its main focus on female clients...

it's called yaoi - the pendant to the straight "hentai" - and features men (generally rather young specimen for that matter)

Yaoi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

q.e.d.
 

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Right VinylBoy! I think a lot of this has to do with the direction. They concentrate so damn much on what goes into the anus that they have the dude being fucked actually pull his cock and balls out of the way! Not at all natural and no way can any man stay hard with a director shouting in his ear to keep his cock and balls covered up.

I think directors should try to feel out some kind of chemistry between their porn stars, instead of just putting Mr. Uber-Bottom of the moment with Mr. 12" Pipe of the minute. And I would love to see more versatile people in films. Nothing is more hotter than to have two people who REALLY are into each other that takes turns as the top AND the bottom.

As for fantasy? Some have tried with such ridiculous plots there is no way in hell anyone can identify.
Maybe Tim Burton should direct a porn... :biggrin1:
 

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It's as though pornography sometimes addresses people at a place beyond labels, at a place where labels don't pertain.

I have sometimes thought this. If it is the case then sadly it is one of the few areas in this world that does not dictate/encourage the use of labels.

The only labels I have are on my clothes. :wink:
 

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i think the whole idea behind this site is that they show both the man and the woman being pleasured, which is why people from different orientations have been positively responding to this. A big idea behind gay porn is to see the gay getting pleasure out of it, and for obvious reasons, that turns a gay man on. It may turn on a straight man because they see straight sex and men like to see a woman being pleasured and like to relate to a man being pleasured. In most straight porn, you really can't tell if they guy is enjoying it, all you really know is that the girl is pretending too.
 
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Well, this is probably why porn is taboo. It sort of redefines everything. It seems there are some porn actors who can go through the entire panorama, from straight to bi to gay to transgender. And the you have gays watching straight porn, straights watching gay porn, etc., it's all so fascinating.

I have sometimes thought this. If it is the case then sadly it is one of the few areas in this world that does not dictate/encourage the use of labels.

The only labels I have are on my clothes. :wink: