Straight Porn Stars vs Gay Porn Stars

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  1. Imported

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    mentatzps: Hey, hello everyone.
    Maybe this topic had been discussed before. Sorry for the repost if it is. :p

    I was wondering if it was me or what, but are straight porn stars less well endowed than gay ones ? ???

    I take two famous for example : Rocco Soffredi (between 9" and 10" I think) for the str8 side and Kevin Dean (12") for the gay side.

    Is it generally like this all the time or am I wrong because I don't know a str8 guy more hung ?

    What do you think, everyone ?
     
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    hawl: I don't know gay porn at all, but I'm very secure and quite curious about where I fall on the global penis size bell curve, so I think I would have investigated a freakish gay star if I'd ever seen advertising for one. As it is, I think the situation is the opposite of what you've encountered. Despite West Coast Productions's use of close-ups and God knows what else including (I assume) special fun-house style camera-lenses, they are currently employing some people like Mandingo and Jack Napier who look bigger than Rocco (who is bigger than many) even when the camera guys get casual and leave in shots of them from some distance. These guys are easily among the absolute biggest I've ever seen from any time period in porn. Check these guys out (along with Lexington Steele) in the "Chasing The Big Ones" series. If gay porn has gone beyond that in sizes, that would be remarkable. Rocco's official "molded" dildo is only 8 inches, which I found remarkable because most of these guys wildly exaggerate their size when making such products (I think Marc Wallice's was 9!).  In "Rocco's True Anal Stories 10" he places the dildo right against his dick, showing that there is no b.s.. Of course, maybe it was not the dildo found in stores, but think about the extreme non-correlation between the John Holmes 14-inch dildos and what you see him (struggling) with in movies. Holmes never could have tried such a move. Rocco has also surprised people by volunteering to journalists the assertion that he and everyone in the industry has herpes. What's with all the honesty? Is he considering elected office?
     
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    mentatzps: Thank you rrrr,

    actually I knew about Mandingo and Jack Napier but I had forgot about them, sorry...silly me  ;D It was morning for me when I post it and I had not had breakfast yet...lol

    I have nothing against Rocco in particular, neither...

    And in gay porn, I came accross "Bam" (aka Virgil Cannon - check this link), a black guy having a 12.5+" dick; he can be seen in "Bam Bam" and many other vids.
     
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    gigantikok: [quote author=mentatzps link=board=99;num=1060757874;start=0#0 date=08/12/03 at 23:48:54]
    I take two famous for example : Rocco Soffredi (between 9" and 10" I think) for the str8 side and Kevin Dean (12") for the gay side?[/quote]

    I have never seen Kevin Dean or a gay porn film, but Kevin Dean prolly has no where near a 12" dick. It's a rule for porn to add a few inches to someone's true penis size. If he was actually a 12 incher, they advertise him as a 15 incher. And Rocco is prolly actually closer to 7 inches. There are camera angles and stuff they use to make the penis look larger.

    I dont know what point i am trying to make, but most of these guys gay or str8 prolly aren't as hung as you think.
     
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    prepstudinsc: Porn stars all add to their real size in the name of "creative advertising." I think that camera angles and closeups all add to the mystique of being large, as well as the relationship of dick size to body size. Many of the porn stars are not 6'4" with 8.5 inches. I would guess that most of them are probably 5'8" with 7.5 or 8 inches. On a smaller body, a good sized dick looks big.
    My 10 inches on my pretty large framed 6'2" body looks bigger than average but not huge. When I've compared dicks with other friends before, that's when the size truly can be seen. Judge by their hands on their dicks. A lot of the guys in porn can't two fist their dicks. I need two hands plus to cover my dick.

    Ok, now I'm rambling, but my point is rarely if ever are the proclaimed sizes of porn stars' dicks their real sizes.
    Camera angles and height/dick length ratio can accentuate slightly bigger than average units to make them look monstrously huge.
     
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    The only difference between gay and str8 porn stars is the size of their paychecks.
     
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    H8Monga: Wasn't there an article some years ago that said gay men had larger penises?
     
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    [quote author=Hapi Papi link=board=99;num=1060757874;start=0#6 date=08/15/03 at 22:57:50]Wasn't there an article some years ago that said gay men had larger penises?[/quote]

    Yes:


    "July 13, 1999

    An investigation into the size of male sex organs reveals that homosexuals are generally better endowed than heterosexuals.

    This is a study done by the Kinsey Institute and researchers say there may be some relationship between innate sexual orientation tendencies and the size of genitalia.

    Researchers say they surveyed data gathered on 5,172 men and found penis sizes to be larger in homosexuals than heterosexuals based on five measurement standards.

    One reason for the differences in penile dimensions could be variations in prenatal hormone levels, according to the study published in the journal, Archives of Sexual Behavior.

    Researchers say an earlier study also shows that homosexuals differ, on average, from heterosexuals in genital size. A survey of 126 homosexual men had larger penises on the average than a similar group of 86 heterosexuals. "

    --Source: Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 28, No. 3, 1999


    It's worth noting that this study was based on self-reporting of penis size, and that the differences were slight, a fraction of an inch.  Therefore, the results could also just mean that gay men are more likely to exagerate. However, the researchers dismiss this possibility, but Dan Savage appears to support it in his commentary on the study:

    "Now that I've had a chance to read the gay cock vs. straight cock study myself (thanks to Willus Johnson at the University of Chicago), I would like to assure both my readers and my doubting, straight editors that, yes, the study is for real -- real scientists (Bogaert & Hershberger), real journal (Archives of Sexual Behavior, vol. 28, no. 3), and real data (5,122 men interviewed at the Kinsey Institute between 1938 and 1963). The five measures on the Kinsey protocol are (1) estimated erect penis length, (2) measured flaccid penis length, (3) measured erect penis length, (4) measured flaccid penis circumference, and (5) measured erect penis circumference.

    The Kinsey dick data showed that gay men's penises, on average, were around a half an inch bigger (6.46 inches erect for gay men, 6.14 erect for straight men). Bogaert & Hershberger discuss several reasons this might be, including prenatal hormone levels, biological mechanisms regulating genital growth, and vain gay men reporting that their dicks are way bigger than they actually are ("homosexual men may be more likely than heterosexual men to exaggerate the size of their penises"). Bogaert & Hershberger dismiss the gay-men-are-fibbing explanation, observing that straight men are just as likely to fib ("gay men may be more concerned than straight men with some elements of the body, [but] heterosexual men are in fact concerned -- even preoccupied -- about the size of their penises and often desire a larger one").

    However, the study's fatal flaw, if I may, is its reliance on self-reported data. The straight and gay men in the study were asked to measure themselves and report back to creepy Dr. Kinsey, so odds are good that many men, straight and gay, lied, telling researchers what they, the subjects of the study, wanted to believe -- i.e. that their cocks were huge. I would knock an inch off both averages just to be on the safe side, bringing the average -- average, mind you -- gay cock down to 5.46 inches, and the average straight cock down to 5.14 inches; numbers which jibe with my own observations in the field. "
     
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    [quote author=Hapi Papi link=board=99;num=1060757874;start=0#6 date=08/15/03 at 22:57:50]Wasn't there an article some years ago that said gay men had larger penises?[/quote]
    But some str8 men do gay porn. Gay porn pays more.
     
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    [quote author=jonb link=board=99;num=1060757874;start=0#8 date=08/16/03 at 16:17:55]
    But some str8 men do gay porn. Gay porn pays more.[/quote]

    You're right. I've read interviews with 'gay for pay' straight actors that say they switched from performing in straight porn to gay porn when they learnt that the pay was about three times what they had been earning. John Holmes made one full-length gay film: he was paid five times the highest salary he ever made in a straight porn flick. (BTW, it was a bad movie even by porn film standards!)
     
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    bklynbigballs: But what I heard is that even gay porn doesn't really pay that much. Guys usually do gay porn in order to gain exposure for their escorting careers which is where they make most of their money ultimately. If you are a "known" porn star, you can charge more as an escort and you will be widely sought after by clients. The porn itself -- which I've heard pays about $500 per day on the average -- serves as a loss leader.
     
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    I've been searching for pornstar dongs on alot of online stores, does anyone know where I can buy Rocco, jack napier or shane diesel dildos???? send me a message with links.
    Cheers
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