Strong minded women turn me on.

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All my desires/fantasies revolve around strong, agressive women. I even have a story in the story section on that sort of female.

I am very strong willed and competitive with other men. The things I enjoy are centered on that sort of equality in sex.

Interestingly women now are beating men in everything. Many many men are not asserting themselves. Weird.
 

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I can name more than one man that I've dealt with that have HATED me because I'm a bitch, domineering, too loud, too aggressive, etc. so on and so forth.

I thank God every day for my husband, friends, and family fore loving me because I am strong-willed and intelligent rather than in spite of it. Someone once commented to me that I must "wear the pants in the family" and that I must have "cut [my] husband's balls off." It's amazing to me to see how such small-minded men can think that only a weak doormat of a man would be attracted to someone like me. In most cases, it has been the quite, strong types that last a long time with me. I can't STAND someone that will bend to my will for very long. I like my men to be just as stubborn, willful, and arrogant as I am.

HollyBlue, I found your post to be extremely intrigung because, though I have never been in a relationship like yours, there is something absolutely sublime about being dominated sexually... My play has only gone so far as to use handcuffs, blindfolds, and restraints, but there is something to be said for the psychological relief of relinquishing control to another person. It can get very hot for both people.
 

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But remember, everyone -- don't confuse "strong minded" with "bitchy and confrontational".

Besides, it's been my experience that the truly intelligent women don't bitch and don't confront others.
 

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i prefer strong minded woman too,

telling someone to shut up is a million times whilst annoying,

.......is more entertaining than a reserved non expressive mute.
 

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But remember, everyone -- don't confuse "strong minded" with "bitchy and confrontational".

Besides, it's been my experience that the truly intelligent women don't bitch and don't confront others.

I think "bitchy and confrontational" many times is used by men and other women who are intimidated by strong women. It's not necessarily true all the time, it's just a convenient way for weak-minded people to hate.
 

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But remember, everyone -- don't confuse "strong minded" with "bitchy and confrontational".

Didn't this conflation happen the last time this subject came up?

Bitchiness is not a sign of strength. A bitchy personality is a brittle one, and brittleness is a weakness.

A bitch is not a leader. One leads by, well, leading, not by nipping constantly at anyone's ankles.

A bitch is not independent. A bitch is mired helplessly if there's nobody around to bitch at.

Bitchiness is unattractive. Personally, occasional bouts of bitchiness are always forgiven without resentment if I think she's worth it. If she's bitchy all the time, or takes perverse pride in her bitchiness, she's not worth it, by definition.

This is nothing to do with "intimidation". Men are not so easily intimidated as some think. They are, however, easily annoyed. "Annoying" is not attractive. For any sort of reasonable relationship, "annoying" is fatal.

Perhaps this is one of those things which men and women simply define differently.
 

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Perhaps this is one of those things which men and women simply define differently.

I think that this really is just an issue of definition, though I don't think it necessarily makes any difference if the terms are being defined by a man or a woman. I think that anyone can have character traits that get on some peoples nerves. Often times women and men will define a woman as a bitch (inaccurately) because of traits they don't like. Strong willed women can often be mislabeled because they don't fit the mold of social norms and that simple fact rubs some people raw. I agree that anyone that goes out of their way to be disagreeable can be obnoxious, but women don't hold the monopoly on this trait. Bitch is a word that only has as much power as the person that is being called a bitch gives it. I hope I don't come off as irrationally confrontational because that is a "bitchy" trait that I can't stand, but I have an opinion that I feel obliged to express. If I'm called a bitch in jest I will laugh a long with everyone else, but if someone is sincere in their conviction, I don't feel any need for further interaction with that person. It's a win-win situation. I try to only speak up when I have something that will add positively to a discussion, If I come off as bitchy, it was not my intention. Britt
 

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But remember, everyone -- don't confuse "strong minded" with "bitchy and confrontational".

Besides, it's been my experience that the truly intelligent women don't bitch and don't confront others.


LOL!

A few months ago, I had a thread about being a bitch in a positive way. Thank you for giving me the right description for my personal style. I stand strong mindedly corrected.
 

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Clearly my "sub"conscious made me make this thread to get outrageous boners.

Claire - you have me spot on.

Big D - I agree - bitchiness is a shallow illusion, masking insecurity. Only dickheads mistake grounded self confidence of opinion with bitchiness.

Give me intelligence with compassion - it melts my heart, and DC, this applies to men as well, which is why this ungay guy enjoys the company of some gay guys so easily, not least the wonderful you.
 

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Hey, my ponly point was that bitchy can and has been used to describe powerful women that aren't anklebiting and snotty. In fact, many women who are cool under pressure are called bitches and frigid and all sorts of things.

I guess I take exception to that term simply because I've seen it misused so much, though I think all of you here are using it more correctly.
 
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I enjoy bitchy and confrontational as long as they're prepared to take it up with me. :)
 

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Didn't this conflation [bitchy vs. strong] happen the last time this subject came up?

Probably, although I probably wasn't around the last time.. :wink:

Hey, my ponly point was that bitchy can and has been used to describe powerful women that aren't anklebiting and snotty. In fact, many women who are cool under pressure are called bitches and frigid and all sorts of things.

Right, I've seen that, too.

I guess the point I was trying to bring up was that some bitchy, angry, and confrontational women use, "I'm independent and strong-willed!" as an excuse for their attitudes. Just as cool, powerful women can be mislabeled "bitchy", bitchy women can be mislabeled as "strong".

Of course, some women are just simply bitchin'... :headbang:

(sorry; watching "Detroit Rock City" at the moment.. lol)
 

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Anyone else get really horny when the ladies are forthright and intelligent.

It gives me the horn so.

Do you think I have a little sub side coming through or is it just admiration for a peer.

I also think a strong woman is sexy, and I don't think it has anything to do with sexual roles. Wanting a partner that is open and assertive about her desires is just wanting an equal instead of a sex doll IMO.
 

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Opinionated doesn't necessarily mean intelligent or informed. Unfortunately, in my personal experience there have been too many loudspoken females who really weren't really well versed on any of the subjects on which they held strong opinions and beliefs. It's okay to be ignorant about certain things but express your feelings about them so long as you acknowledge the difference between feelings and informed opinions . But to talk about something as if you are some kind of authority on the subject when in reality you are essentially ignorant about it is a huge turn off and a sure sign of a selfish annoying character that needs to be left alone unless you are seeking headaches. But, I imagine many heterosexual females face the same difficulty with male partners.
 

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Opinionated doesn't necessarily mean intelligent or informed. Unfortunately, in my personal experience there have been too many loudspoken females who really weren't really well versed on any of the subjects on which they held strong opinions and beliefs. It's okay to be ignorant about certain things but express your feelings about them so long as you acknowledge the difference between feelings and informed opinions . But to talk about something as if you are some kind of authority on the subject when in reality you are essentially ignorant about it is a huge turn off and a sure sign of a selfish annoying character that needs to be left alone unless you are seeking headaches. But, I imagine many heterosexual females face the same difficulty with male partners.


A very good point made and taken. THank you.