Stronzo was banned?!

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As of this point in time, I have left LPSG with no plan to return.

If ever any reason comes up for me to return, I might. But I have no idea what that reason could be.

The shift from an unmoderated forum that kept itself in check to a forum where moderators make draconian pronouncements about 'special knowledge' and 'knowing better than anyone else' has created a two-tier system in which only the few may decide what is best for the others, and with NO EXPLANATION as to why the latter may be the case, and all discussion of these matters deemed UNACCEPTABLE.

If LPSG was an experiment in true democracy, then it has failed.

In the past, I have received PMs from picture-loving folk there saying that "the site wouldn't be the same without Alex8". Even at the time, I smiled only briefly, and then hit 'delete'. The site will barely even notice that I am gone. And, after recent events transformed it from a place of fun to a place of intransigent Big Brother-ism, I really have to say that this sense of apathy is mutual.
 

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dcwrestlefan said:
it seems like the board is turning into the soviet union.

North Korea is the current bad boy, the Sovet Union is too broke to afford repression these days. A shake up once in a while is seldom a bad thing but memories are short and I suspect both LPSG and Stronzo will soon be revived and normal service will resume. I hope so anyway.

dcwrestlefan said:
if she was tossed as a mod, i have a REAL problem with that.

Who knows, perhaps. But it seems more likely she simply resigned her 'modship' to speak as a member without any risk of a perceived bias or agenda. Or because she disagreed with the other collective decisions.

dcwrestlefan said:
its ok to impose rules, but you can cross the line. christ guys. its a CHAT board. you cannot force people to only be nice and talk about dicks 24/7. if thats what you want ONLY, then i am out too.

"hi i am joe and i grow flowers. how big are you?" YAWN.

I agree with you there...:biggrin1:
 

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alex8 said:
As of this point in time, I have left LPSG with no plan to return.

If ever any reason comes up for me to return, I might. But I have no idea what that reason could be.

The shift from an unmoderated forum that kept itself in check to a forum where moderators make draconian pronouncements about 'special knowledge' and 'knowing better than anyone else' has created a two-tier system in which only the few may decide what is best for the others, and with NO EXPLANATION as to why the latter may be the case, and all discussion of these matters deemed UNACCEPTABLE.

If LPSG was an experiment in true democracy, then it has failed.

In the past, I have received PMs from picture-loving folk there saying that "the site wouldn't be the same without Alex8". Even at the time, I smiled only briefly, and then hit 'delete'. The site will barely even notice that I am gone. And, after recent events transformed it from a place of fun to a place of intransigent Big Brother-ism, I really have to say that this sense of apathy is mutual.

*sigh* :mad:
 

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I have something else to say, I would like to leave this thread open, I know you have your reasons for closing the threads but let this one go on.

I'm angry that were losing the fourth highest contributor to the site because of these changes, this is crazy. We (The Board) needs an explanation, and fast.
 

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BronxBombshell said:
I miss alex8 already. If all the cute, funny, resourceful, articulate guys leave, I'm gonna split too.

I don't consider myself in that category though I have my lucid moments:redface:. Also if all the cute, sunny, resourceful and articulate girls also leave it's going to be a Lonely Pointless Shallow Group.

Hang around BB. Besides, I have yet to convince you of the omnivorous nature of Humans.:smile:
 

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Wow, it all sounds like the end of an era!

All those that say they are leaving will still have their membership and can come back anytime. Those that are banned may choose to return when their ban is lifted.

New members with special talents, knowledge and forceful characters are joining all the time. I don't think the fun is over here yet and we still have lot's of freedom ask the questions that we want answered.

BronxBombshell, your support here has been so good, we need you, don't go!:puppy_dog_eyes: :cry:
 

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It seems the people who write the posts that interest me most have been banned, are leaving in protest or are thinking about leaving. I have to say I agree. By all means run your board how you see fit, but if there's nothing to read but "how big is your weener" ad nauseum there won't be any need for me to keep this site amongst my favourties when I have my next clear out.

Two of the most interesting people here being banned for what I consider to be shaky reasons and we're being told not to mention it. I would suggest that before making decisions like these the moderators have ready some good explanations and it seems in this case they do not. As I said, run the board as you see fit but if you treat people this way then expect most of them to leave.
 

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This will be at least the third "wringing of hands, gnashing of teeth, wearing of sackcloth and ashes" on LPSG since I joined. In the early months of this year, there were several crises going on, and several members grandly announced their exit, only to come back soon after.

Let's see, before Rob bought LPSG, there was one crisis (I don't even really remember now what it was all about); then Rob bought the board, and there was a panic/crisis; then the "untimely death" of a "member"; minor crisis with Webster/Caneadea.

Madame Zora had mentioned (privately) to me that at times, she wished she had not volunteered to be a moderator, and at other times that she was thinking of stepping down. I have not talked to her lately, so I don't know the situation.

If everyone would be just a little less reactionary (come on, no hissy fits, please!) I'm sure there would be fewer crises and fewer Exoduses.

Actually, I won't mention any names (there have been a few, so at least I can manage this) but a couple of recently banned "popular" or "cute" members, in my opinion, deserved to be banned. If your only purpose, with every single post, is to fuck with someone, then (freedom of speech or not) LPSG is not your place.

Stronzo made a few excellent posts, but from the time he joined, he wanted to mold LPSG into what he wanted it to be, he got pissy with long-standing members who tried to guide him, and he was brutal to newcomers who didn't fit his mold. There's something not quite right about that, it reminds me of someone who goes into a vegetarian restaurant, and has a screaming fit when they won't serve him a steak. Stronzo could be very charming, but more often he seemed to get a kick from pointing out his Brahmin origins and telling everyone how much better that made him than anyone else. Yawn. Too bad he was not putting his intellect to better use; when he could actually do something besides attack other people or stir up controversy, I liked him. He just got on the wrong path, it seemed. I don't know what went on with the moderators in the last sweep of bannings, but I haven't seen one yet that I didn't think was probably merited.

Those of you who choose to remain, let's have some fun and hang around for a while.
 

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I hate to be the heretical voice here -- actually, no, I don't -- but this board is not nor should it be based on one person's posts.

I've been around here longer than most of the people on this thread who decry sovietism or complain the board "won't be the same" without Alex or Stronzo or whoever. I've seen many suddenly dominant posters come and go: Dr Bubbles, DoubleMeatWhopper, jonb, etc. And guess what? We were fine before they came and we were be fine after they left.

This seems to me to be the usual pattern of someone joining, posting thousands of messages in a few months and then burning out. Of course, these people never leave quietly. They go out with the same flourish they arrived with: by getting banned or making a grand announcement. There's a guy right now in the chat room who suddenly one day appeared and tries to dominate with blather about British literature and other inane topics he quickly searches on Google. He, too, will either settle down realizing he doesn't need to be an alpha-male in a big-dick website chatroom or he'll flame out. Either way, I file it under "whatever."

I hope Stronzo comes back and Alex stays, and that this board remains a friendly place of support and flirting and fun. And I'm not sure I see any dangerous "censorship" here. I do think everyone needs to devote as much energy and attention to their real life relationships as they claim to care about this message board.

Peace.
 

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BigPoppaFury said:
By all means run your board how you see fit, but if there's nothing to read but "how big is your weener" ad nauseum there won't be any need for me to keep this site amongst my favourties when I have my next clear out.
I think if more people here used their creativity to start interesting threads then LPSG won't have to rely on the same people to continually come up with new, fun topics.
It's not just the moderator's job to eliminate the boredom!
 

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Hung Muscle said:
I've been around here longer than most of the people on this thread who decry sovietism or complain the board "won't be the same" without Alex or Stronzo or whoever. I've seen many suddenly dominant posters come and go: Dr Bubbles, DoubleMeatWhopper, jonb, etc. And guess what? We were fine before they came and we were be fine after they left.

The finger in the bucket of water analogy. I agree with that. Well, until a critical mass leaves. A new 'core' may form but in the interim there exists a risk of terminal erosion. I doubt that will happen here though, the very ethos of the board would seem to preclude that.:smile:
 

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dongalong said:
I think if more people here used their creativity to start interesting threads then LPSG won't have to rely on the same people to continually come up with new, fun topics.
It's not just the moderator's job to eliminate the boredom!

I don't think it's a moderators job to eliminate boredom at all is it?

What I'm trying to say is that if all the interesting people leave then there won't be any more interesting threads, therefore no need to keep coming here.
 

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dong20 said:
I don't consider myself in that category though I have my lucid moments:redface:. Also if all the cute, sunny, resourceful and articulate girls also leave it's going to be a Lonely Pointless Shallow Group.

Hang around BB. Besides, I have yet to convince you of the omnivorous nature of Humans.:smile:

I totally forgot! You start it. I'll procrastinate and forget again!
 

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Seeing as I’ve managed to litter these boards with over 5000 posts in recent months, I hope that you will put up with one more post from me. :rolleyes: From my perspective, this really isn’t an issue of whether or not specific individuals deserved to be banned, temporarily or otherwise.

What concerns me is the lack of transparency in the current actions, behavior and tone of the moderation team. When they were first appointed, they informed LPSG that they would welcome feedback and that they would maintain communication with the membership. Now, half a year on, we are told that they MAY deign to allow us to offer our comments on any new TOS that they draw up, while at the same time closing threads that dare to mention bans, which are suddenly deemed ‘taboo’. They proffer grand announcements about how they know best, and we must question nothing as they undertake their Wizard-of-Oz like machinations behind the curtain that none of us is supposed to notice. In short, this is about the transformation of a near-democracy into a crypto-fascist nanny state.

The result, in effect, is that a (paying or non-paying) member enquires:
“Why has XXXX been banned?”

---only to be met with the response:
“Shut up!”

How could transparency be achieved? With ease, imho. One solution that some other sites have instituted is a ‘sin bin’ – a closed sticky thread on which moderators post short details of currently banned members using a set bank of phrases, such as “EatMyFeet has been permanently banned for racist remarks”; “alex7 has been temporarily banned for fourteen days for anti-social behavior”; “LickMyClit has been permanently banned for holding multiple accounts as LickMyClit, LickMyPussy and LickMyToes”; “17x11inches has been temporarily banned for seven days for posting Photoshopped images”; etc. This at least lets everyone know what is going on, without members having to be ordered to “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”. For sure, it may scare off the odd member who is too self-conscious to return after a ban; but how does that differ from the current state of affairs with regard to bans at LPSG anyway?

When decisions are taken that leave a site’s members in disarray and with (forbidden) questions to which they would like answers, however, it feels like one has been thrown into a dictatorship run by a secret service which maintains high visibility but refuses to be accountable, merely prohibiting open discussion on thread after thread.

As HungMuscle rightly says, and as my own comments in my other post on this thread sought to make clear, LPSG will continue on just fine in the future, whether a few posters jump overboard or not due to the current or any subsequent débacle. However, this is absolutely my final post. I had reduced my posting here over the past days, keeping my head down during the ludicrous interpersonal wars that had overwhelmed the boards, and which needed to be dealt with. The manner in which they were dealt with displeases me, though, and I – like any of us – can only live by a personal ethic of beliefs and perceptions.
 
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