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Just some terminology corrections here:

Stud - Implies the guy has a big dick only and nothing else. It comes from the same term that is used to describe a breeding male horse. If the guy doesn't have a big dick, he is not a stud.

Player - A guy that gives the impression he likes a girl when he really doesn't... to presumably get something out of her (i.e. sex in most cases). Has absolutely nothing to do with his looks.

Hunk - A handsome guy WITH muscles. If the guy doesn't have muscles, he is not a hunk.

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That is all. It seems as though some people are using those words incorrectly. :wink:

Would have been majorly impressed with your clarifications if you'd taken the effort to add women/sluts. Sigh. Now I'm just depressed that I hoped you'd go there and didn't.

No worries, though. I really don't agree with your classifications. Horses can be studs because they hafta have a big dick and do because they still have their balls. Men who aren't studs still have their balls I hope. Studs are guys that think they're all that, in my opinion. I doubt anyone checks down the front of their pants to see if they're hung before handing out the name stud.

Just my own opinion of course. :confused:
 

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what about a woman who has heaps of sex with other women? slut or girl-stud/player?
or slut-slut? uber-slutty..

since she's totally avoiding dick.. could she still be wife-up material?
 

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A slut is just a woman who likes sex as much as a man.

You see, but a woman isn't supposed to actually have sex because fuck equal rights and being treated like a human being instead of a living fleshlight, Bjen might think less of us! Oh noes! I know what a deep blow that is to you personally.

If a guy like Bjen decides that I'm not wifey material because he's stuck in the 1950s, thank goodness I found out that he was a misogynistic hypocrite with double standards. That's a bullet dodged!
 
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You see, but a woman isn't supposed to actually have sex because fuck equal rights and being treated like a human being instead of a living fleshlight, Bjen might think less of us! Oh noes! I know what a deep blow that is to you personally.


I wouldn't touch Bjen even if he was hung like a Clydesdale, looked like Jason Momoa and had a winning lottery ticket pinned to his shirt.
 

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I got bored reading this, so decided to argue terminology with Am:

Just some terminology corrections here:

Stud - Implies the guy has a big dick only and nothing else. It comes from the same term that is used to describe a breeding male horse. If the guy doesn't have a big dick, he is not a stud.

Player - A guy that gives the impression he likes a girl when he really doesn't... to presumably get something out of her (i.e. sex in most cases). Has absolutely nothing to do with his looks.

Hunk - A handsome guy WITH muscles. If the guy doesn't have muscles, he is not a hunk.

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That is all. It seems as though some people are using those words incorrectly. :wink:
Umm..yeah its a stud horse, but the reason it is a stud is based on it's breeding ability. Not all big dicked guys have a high, viable sperm count. Stud can be seen as virility and potency. A stud there fore can have a 4 inch dick, but rut in bed like an animal and breed with the best of them. A stud in the gay sense would only have to be a animalistic rutter in bed, with a high sex drive.

Now I will not say that big dicks, with the obvious connotations of horse cocks, are not used in the what is a stud mentality by some folk, yourself included. Be sure that not all of us use that descriptor. My definition of stud is different from yours or anyone else's and I find it condecending and irksome that you would denign to tell me what I should think a stud is. I know this was not your intent, which is why I am not upset :wink:

Player: this one was pitch perfect save for the fact that you forgot that a woman can be a player as well.

Hunk: DOES NOT have to have muscles! well not in the sense you are using. I know your preferred body type, but some of us like a guy with met, or a lanky bloke. Hell, even HANDSOME is up for interpretation.

Ok i have seen pics of men who, even though they are not my normal type, are lanky, moderate toned, handsome (to me) and I would consider them hunks. Likewise guys with some meat to them (more my type), with softer musculature, i would say are hunks.

I will try to read through the rest of this read now and respond to the what is a slut (m/f/t) and try to answer the op.
 

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O.M.F.G...my IQ dropped in the reading of this thread. Holy shit people are fucking stupid!

But there were some glimmers:

from what i have observed, the whole 'player/stud' and even 'hot slut' scenarios boil down to one thing: INSECURITY.... these types (in both gay and straight situations) gravitate towards each other, and provide this shallow sense of comfort to each other while satisfying basic needs such as sex and companionship.... it's not that they're bad people, but more like they're using each other as a means of self-discovery and real confidence building while getting their rocks off and spending time together socially.... i've seen some of these player/slut types live out their teens and twenties as promiscuous serial daters with these so-called fellow 'beautiful people', and ultimately settle down with the average joe/jane who they find that deeper connection with later on in life.... as long as they're not going around getting pregnant, spreading STD's or hurting anyone with their attitudes then i have no issue with these types of people.... you just have to be aware of them, be able to read them, and give them the space they need (unless you're also like them; in which case you will probably take advantage of them).... people come in all sorts, you just have to make sure that your eyes and your genitals (or your ignorance) don't get the better of you.....
^qft
I'm confused....so, let's clear this up. Studs -- are men who sleep with a variety of women. Sometimes called players. Women who sleep with the same amount of men, are airheads and sluts....wow...glad you all don't go out in public. I mean, the knuckle dragging must get in the way of picking up those...sluts.

Anyway, the question was about studs/players. What makes them so popular? What is the draw?

I can't speak for every women who has ever been played, but I can talk about how I was. Players lie. They say whatever, to whoever their target is, to get them in bed. Someone said they're insecure, and in my humble opinion, they are wicked insecure. Something about them, needs that constant reassurance that they are hot, able to 'get hot women' and so on. Sadly, I don't see them ever overcoming their insecurities but rather continuing on in their narcissistic tendencies until they realize that they are alone and were right about themselves all along: they don't deserve anyone. That's when they attempt to re-engage, but what they can't seem to get is what they've done hasn't been forgotten, nor forgiven. *shrug* Just my two cents after being lied to by a player. Oh, and for the record, I'm not an airhead, and I'm not a 'slut' as you've all defined that term on here. I was very cautious, and that, I guess was the 'challenge' right?
^QF more fuckin T

these two now what the hell they are talking about.

And then Bjen decided to share his "wisdom":eek::rolleyes:
To be a stud, it requires a decent job/high-ish social status, good looks, good social skills etc... That's why studs are considered good

To be a slut, all you need is a vagina or a mouth.. That's why they are kinda looked down on in society compared to guys, people always praise those who do something that is hard to do (in this case, a guy being able to bang multiple women), but people don't really care about something that is hard (in this case a girl banging multiple guys), like why treat a girl special if shes already been with half the school campus? It lowers her value
...dear god...do not breed. In fact just fuck off and die.

fuck off, right now, and die.

thanfully we had an awesome response!:
Repeat, do you go out with your knuckles draggin, or is there some kind of jacket you wear to hide them??

A man can be a slut. Ask any of the men on here. To be a stud you need a decent job or high-ish social status, good looks and good social skills? Just how many studs have you been sleeping with? Some studs are simply hot looking guys that exclude confidence and have no job, nor money, and basically use their looks and charm to get laid. Not a hard job, not really. How can it be hard - banging on these sluts, if you just said being a slut wasn't that hard....the contradictions are amazing....
I love you.

Sadly your words are wasted on him. He doesn't get it. He never will...

Poor sad pee boy he is.
Yeah, a man can be a slut .. Sluts = stud = player = whatever you wanna call it

I'm just saying, the reason people put male sluts above female sluts is because a man who has the ability to be with a bunch of women has higher value than a guy who can't get laid, women see that guy as a challenge

But a girl who will open her legs to anyone has lower value because she's been around with everyone

I'm not saying its fair or right, its just how it is
Wow you win douche of the year award.

Congrats.

Oh and congrats on turning this into a peeboy thread. :mad:
 

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It has nothing to do with how easy it is for either gender to get laid. The reason why some people consider it a problem if a woman believes that she has as much of a right to express her sexuality as a man does is because they have virgin/whore issues. It's a psychological condition that can cause a lot of unhappiness for himself and for any poor woman he ends up with. Other people who believe that a woman who has sex becomes dehumanized and that it is her own fault if she is treated inhumanely are just misogynists. Either way, there is no room in my life for people like that. I wouldn't tolerate it any more than I would tolerate someone who said racist things in front of me.

I wouldn't touch Bjen even if he was hung like a Clydesdale, looked like Jason Momoa and had a winning lottery ticket pinned to his shirt.

Are you sure? He has so much to offer! Like being hypocritical and unfairly judgmental and self-righteous about treating other people like crap without any self-awareness of what that says about him as a person. And the way he talks about women! It's so charming! Don't you realize those are things women really want? Sounds like a catch to me! :rolleyes:

Bjen appears to believe that all men think the way that he does. They really don't. Which is unfortunate for him. It really does mean that his "value" is lowered because he does think like that. Ironic, isn't it?
 
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Yep, really. :frown1:

These type of girls are completely fake in any and every aspect, including skills in the bedroom. They put on a front like they are pretty, smart, and good in bed. However, in actuality they are none of those things.

Just my experience of course.
Ummm not all sluts are as you described. i know for a fact that Subgirrl would consider herself a slut but we all now she is quite the opposite if your derisive opinion of what a slut is. Not only is she intelligent kind, pretty, and totally genuine, but she rocks in the bedroom according to her partners.

Just saying you may want to not make such broad generalizations about people,, as you will inevitably paint yourself into an unenviable corner.
 

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Not only is she intelligent kind, pretty, and totally genuine, but she rocks in the bedroom according to her partners.

I second that! :smile:

I'm absolutely certain that many people would consider me "slutty" because of my sexual history, but unlike subgirrl, it's not a label I would apply to myself because of the meaning given to it by hateful guys who talk about women in demeaning ways. It's not a word that I feel positive about because of how I've seen it used to label women who haven't deserved to be treated inhumanely. I wish that I could feel positively about the word the way that she does, but I doubt I ever will.

Luckily, there are so many wonderful men who don't share that worldview, and I'm going to take a moment to appreciate them. I've had a life full of love and passion and wonderful men who have seen value in me that had nothing to do with what happened in the bedroom, which is how it should be.
 
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To be a stud, it requires a decent job/high-ish social status, good looks, good social skills etc... That's why studs are considered good

To be a slut, all you need is a vagina or a mouth.. That's why they are kinda looked down on in society compared to guys, people always praise those who do something that is hard to do (in this case, a guy being able to bang multiple women), but people don't really care about something that is hard (in this case a girl banging multiple guys), like why treat a girl special if shes already been with half the school campus? It lowers her value

No, it doesn't. A 'stud/player' etc doesn't need a decent job or high social status to get a woman into bed. Some looks, decent patter & pretty high self confidence should do it. Are they considered good? Maybe by you, and others like you.

But perhaps women don't consider these men 'good'. What if women consider these 'players' as having little value. What if when we fuck these guys, we do it at their place to avoid having them sully the place where we live. What if we sneak out as soon as we're done with them so we don't have to wake up with them. What if we consider the fact that they'll sleep with anyone to be a sign of attachment disorder, and we wouldn't remotely consider them to be a contender for a relationship. A guy like that? Who'd want someone like that as a boyfriend? He's just a dog. Definitely wear a condom, sunshine - cuz, I don't want to carry YOUR baby - ugh! As soon as I get home, I scrub my skin because I don't want your scent on me. What if we 'sluts' fuck 'players' because that's all they're good for - life support for the penis? FFS, these guys will fuck anything, anyone, anytime. Hey, he fucked me and I didn't even have to do anything but put myself in his eyeline.

Personally, what I just wrote is not something I believe. Men & women may or may not have promiscuous periods in their lives for different reasons. Everybody has a story. Even you, Bjen. I don't like you, never have. But I don't know your story. At least the women here have fair warning of your belief system. I hope the women in real life have the same opportunity.

By the way. Catherine Zeta-Jones has a serious mental illness. She has Bipolar II Disorder. Holding her up as a perfect woman is a little weak, as anyone who has lived with a bipolar person knows. It is hell - pure hell. Lindsay could be a walk in the park next to her.
 

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a person, of either gender, who sleeps with people they neither like nor respect is lowering their own value. they lack the self respect to only share themselves with people who they believe worthy.

i give fillet steak to valued guests and i give dogfood to a dog.

i'm not dogfood.

the above is my own personal opinion and, though it is shared by billions of people, i make no claim for it being a universal truth. that's just because i'm sane though.
 

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@NSDB: i totally own it.... everyone should.... if for no other reason than getting some good practice in so that when the 'ultimate' comes along, you'll be ready for it and know exactly what to do to make it completely mind-blowing.... if women didn't get in on this, the people who sleep with them wouldn't have anything remotely resembling good sex.... what a horrible world that would be.....
 

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I wouldn't touch Bjen even if he was hung like a Clydesdale, looked like Jason Momoa and had a winning lottery ticket pinned to his shirt.

Lol, trust me, finding out a girl wouldn't sleep with me because I speak the truth does not upset me (especially someone I don't even know)

There are literally billions of vagina's in the world, it's more abundant & easier to get than a full tank of gas. Your little jabs you & your friend try to throw don't hurt, I actually like it rough ;)
 

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No, it doesn't. A 'stud/player' etc doesn't need a decent job or high social status to get a woman into bed. Some looks, decent patter & pretty high self confidence should do it. Are they considered good? Maybe by you, and others like you.

But perhaps women don't consider these men 'good'. What if women consider these 'players' as having little value. What if when we fuck these guys, we do it at their place to avoid having them sully the place where we live. What if we sneak out as soon as we're done with them so we don't have to wake up with them. What if we consider the fact that they'll sleep with anyone to be a sign of attachment disorder, and we wouldn't remotely consider them to be a contender for a relationship. A guy like that? Who'd want someone like that as a boyfriend? He's just a dog. Definitely wear a condom, sunshine - cuz, I don't want to carry YOUR baby - ugh! As soon as I get home, I scrub my skin because I don't want your scent on me. What if we 'sluts' fuck 'players' because that's all they're good for - life support for the penis? FFS, these guys will fuck anything, anyone, anytime. Hey, he fucked me and I didn't even have to do anything but put myself in his eyeline.

Personally, what I just wrote is not something I believe. Men & women may or may not have promiscuous periods in their lives for different reasons. Everybody has a story. Even you, Bjen. I don't like you, never have. But I don't know your story. At least the women here have fair warning of your belief system. I hope the women in real life have the same opportunity.

By the way. Catherine Zeta-Jones has a serious mental illness. She has Bipolar II Disorder. Holding her up as a perfect woman is a little weak, as anyone who has lived with a bipolar person knows. It is hell - pure hell. Lindsay could be a walk in the park next to her.

Why would the women in my life need a warning of my belief system?

How can you say someone you don't even know has a mental illness? & personally idk who I'd label the perfect woman (probably my grandmother, seriously the sweetest lady anyone will ever meet)
 

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or maybe it was the misogynistic overtones that did it.

seriously dude, you could have phrased that in a thousand different ways, and it would have been better.

learn from this and move on.
 

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Why would the women in my life need a warning of my belief system?

How can you say someone you don't even know has a mental illness? & personally idk who I'd label the perfect woman (probably my grandmother, seriously the sweetest lady anyone will ever meet)

If a woman truly care about you, then she shouldn't sleep with you until she 'has' you. That's why she needs a warning about your belief system. She'd need to increase her value in your eyes first. She'd have to play your game.

*sigh* Games make me very tired.

As to Catherine Zeta-Jones? Well, her mental illness did make the cover of People magazine so it's not a secret. Or you could Google it if you don't trust me.
 

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Ummm not all sluts are as you described. i know for a fact that Subgirrl would consider herself a slut but we all now she is quite the opposite if your derisive opinion of what a slut is. Not only is she intelligent kind, pretty, and totally genuine, but she rocks in the bedroom according to her partners.

Just saying you may want to not make such broad generalizations about people,, as you will inevitably paint yourself into an unenviable corner.

Did I ever say I was giving my definition of what a slut was? No. In fact, I never even used that word. I said they were airheads, which is something completely different.

I was talking about the type of girl that falls for the douchebag type of guy like the OP was talking about. Those girls are always terrible in bed, sluts or not is irrelevant.

Just because the person I quoted mentioned the word slut, doesn't mean I was giving my definition of it (if you look at the course of the posts between us, you can see that's obviously not what I was talking about).

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Since you mentioned the word though, I'd like to add that the common vernacular of the word "slut" means a person (male or female) who has sex with a lot of different people.

Historically, however, that word means a woman (specifically) who is immoral and/or a prostitute. I'm pretty sure Subgirrl is not going to self-describe as that, but if she is then to each their own. Either way, the word has a negative connotation.
 
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