style of circumcision

[D_Humper E Bogart]

There is something semi-perverse in wondering what kind of dick one's son should have.

Oh yeah, if I ever get a daughter, I'm really going to be thinking "I hope her pussy isn't too tight when she grows up!"

Great, now Google will have every paedo within miles checking this site out. :biggrin1:

 

[B_dxjnorto]

I answered this womans query just to let her know that some men who are circumsized don't feel robbed of their dignity, rights, or attractiveness to women, as she seemed to have feared. You may have a different opinion on that, that is your business, I found it a bit annoying that you decided to converse on my opinion in such an aggressive manner. I would appreciate it if you didn't do that from now on.

It appears the originator of the thread has vacated it, so we may never find out anything more about her son. His circumcision is probably a done deal.

Age is a big factor in how you feel about your circumcision. In your teens, hopefully you had something to say about it. So, you say you don't feel robbed. Those of us cut at birth do not have these mitigating factors. This is why I say we are talking about two different things.

From your own experience you know that circumcision is an aggressive thing to do to a child. I'm sure you would have preferred NOT to be circumcised. If there was a medical need, it could have been done as conservatively as possible. It looks like you got the standard high and tight so I'm sure you DO know the difference between before and after. If you care to respond about aggression toward children, read the link I provided and respond to it. Most frequently genital cutting does not address a medical need of any sort. This is child abuse.

 

[Doc]

Dxj, I thought I already told you, I am not interested in an argument, or reading any propaganda. I'm sure there have been accidents, botches and what not all over the world. That is not my concern, that is simply a law of numbers. The fact is, it is legal, and some people have the option to do it. I will also give my son the option at his particular age, as my father did to me. Concerning the woman that addressed us, I already gave her an answer I think is more than fair. And no it is not child abuse. Is piercing your ear child abuse, that can go horribly wrong too, or cosmetic dental surgery for that matter, perhaps braces. Yeah if I were a kid again, I would consider braces child abuse, thats for sure.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

And no it is not child abuse. Is piercing your ear child abuse, that can go horribly wrong too, or cosmetic dental surgery for that matter, perhaps braces. Yeah if I were a kid again, I would consider braces child abuse, thats for sure.

I admire your attempt at creativity Doc, but please, not the ear piercing rationalization. Please don't stoop to that incredibly jaded and inadequate comparison.

I read your post about fundamentalism so I'm pretty sure you have "religious" reasons Doc. Even the proverbial two by four (stick to the head) will probably never alter your views, but I won't completely rule out the possibility, as you are obviously intelligent and seem capable of enlightened thought.

And no it is not child abuse.

Depends on whether you believe the "docs" calm voiceover or the baby:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6584757516627632617&q=circumcision

 

[baseball99]

Dxj, I thought I already told you, I am not interested in an argument, or reading any propaganda. I'm sure there have been accidents, botches and what not all over the world. That is not my concern, that is simply a law of numbers. The fact is, it is legal, and some people have the option to do it. I will also give my son the option at his particular age, as my father did to me. Concerning the woman that addressed us, I already gave her an answer I think is more than fair. And no it is not child abuse. Is piercing your ear child abuse, that can go horribly wrong too, or cosmetic dental surgery for that matter, perhaps braces. Yeah if I were a kid again, I would consider braces child abuse, thats for sure.

Don't try to post logical arguments or anything.....he is obviously right bc he says so and he has much more antecdotal evidence than you ever could.....should circumcision be the choice of the boy, yes.....does it truly cause all these problems people claim? Of course not.....Doc, just roll your eyes and move on.....you are too intelligent to even try to justify against some posters. The truth of the matter is the vast majority of circumcised men are not inhibited in any way whatsoever, but those that were (the minority) tend to be more vocal about it

 

[B_dxjnorto]

The truth of the matter is the vast majority of circumcised men are not inhibited in any way whatsoever, but those that were (the minority) tend to be more vocal about it

The vast majority of men are not circumcised. Like you don't have an ulterior motive, Mr. Circumciser.

 

[baseball99]

The vast majority of men are not circumcised. Like you don't have an ulterior motive, Mr. Circumciser.

learn to read.....seriously man learn to fricki read that IS NOT what i said, but i expect nothing more from you really

 

[Doc]

Don't try to post logical arguments or anything.....he is obviously right bc he says so and he has much more antecdotal evidence than you ever could.....should circumcision be the choice of the boy, yes.....does it truly cause all these problems people claim? Of course not.....Doc, just roll your eyes and move on.....you are too intelligent to even try to justify against some posters. The truth of the matter is the vast majority of circumcised men are not inhibited in any way whatsoever, but those that were (the minority) tend to be more vocal about it

Thanks, bro. It's ridiculous, some of these guys just want to go at it for no real reason. Maybe they just get a kick that everyone can read their 'I got him arguments'. Still I just hope the original poster found what she was looking for.

 

[Mumzi]

Thanks, bro. It's ridiculous, some of these guys just want to go at it for no real reason. Maybe they just get a kick that everyone can read their 'I got him arguments'. Still I just hope the original poster found what she was looking for.

Where IS the OP? You realize this post came right on the heels of the reversing circumcision post......

 

[baseball99]

Where IS the OP? You realize this post came right on the heels of the reversing circumcision post......

wait, you mean people on this board post things just to be controversial????? haha :wink:

 

[chico8]

as it s very uncommon to circumcise in germany, everything was tried yet, trust me. so it really seems to be the only solution. that s also why it s more common here to do a partial circ instead of the normal one. but quite a lot of female friends told me they really liked a circed penis (perhaps because its quite exotic here?) they think that my son would be better off with a tight circ than with a loose foreskin covering only half of the glans. as there has to be a circumcision, i want to give my son what will make him comfortable when being with girls. so tell me, what do you like more?

How old is he?

If you do decide (who is making the decision is your son involved in the process?) do it loose, that way his glans will have some protection from abrasive clothing. Also, be prepared for your son to be teased a lot at school. Most young german kids who are cut are Turks.

 

[Doc]

Yeah, no OP, I guess we all got duped a bit.

 

[Mumzi]

wait, you mean people on this board post things just to be controversial????? haha :wink:

Of course that wouldn't happen here. We're all as pure as a new fallen snow! :tongue:

 

[baseball99]

Of course that wouldn't happen here. We're all as pure as a new fallen snow! :tongue:

i think you mean the yellow snow

 

[SteveHd]

It's ridiculous, some of these guys just want to go at it for no real reason.

Real reasons:

The rights of infants and boys who cannot speak for themselves.

The wrongness of cutting off part of an boy's penis for aesthetic or selfish reasons.

For all men to choose for themselves as adults whether to be circumcised.

Maybe they just get a kick that everyone can read their 'I got him arguments'.

My "kick" is the immense pride and satisfaction for standing up for the rights of boys who cannot speak for themselves.

 

[baseball99]

Real reasons:

The rights of infants and boys who cannot speak for themselves.

The wrongness of cutting off part of an boy's penis for aesthetic or selfish reasons.

For all men to choose for themselves as adults whether to be circumcised. My "kick" is the immense pride and satisfaction for standing up for the rights of boys who cannot speak for themselves.

nanananananananananana i would believe you if people who "fight for the rights of infants....." do not
1.) refer to circumcised men as mutilated
2.) refer to circumcised men as inadequate in comparison to uncircumcised
3.) claiming horror stories of circumcision are common
4.) claiming circumcised men can not feel the same sensations (despite the neurology study i posted which showed no statistical difference)
5.) make comments how circumcised men somehow have smaller penises bc theyre cut too tight (comments by people who have absolutely no understanding of anatomy to even the slightest degree)

 

[B_dxjnorto]

nanananananananananana i would believe you if people who "fight for the rights of infants....." do not
1.) refer to circumcised men as mutilated

Check the dictionary. The term is correct, if inflammatory.

2.) refer to circumcised men as inadequate in comparison to uncircumcised

Watch europorn.

3.) claiming horror stories of circumcision are common

Complications are common. Horror stories are uncommon, but if they happen to you, they are total. Because circumcision is unnecessary, so are circumcision horrors. Iatrogenic. Get it?

4.) claiming circumcised men can not feel the same sensations (despite the neurology study i posted which showed no statistical difference)

You don't look. I've told you, you won't find double blind studies because they won't pass ethics boards, but I found this study with Google in 0.32 seconds using the search terms penis sensitivity survey.

5.) make comments how circumcised men somehow have smaller penises bc theyre cut too tight (comments by people who have absolutely no understanding of anatomy to even the slightest degree)

Apparently you're not a frequent visitor to the gallery.

 

[baseball99]

first i dont believe i was talking to you.....

Check the dictionary. The term is correct, if inflammatory.

Don't you think that definition is quite wide open.....i hated going to the dentist and having my face mutilated by having my wisdom teeth ripped out.....the definition is about as clear and wide open as bush's policies

Watch europorn.

there ya go posting antecdotal opinions again.....knew you wouldnt be able to get 1 whole post without it

Complications are common. Horror stories are uncommon, but if they happen to you, they are total. Because circumcision is unnecessary, so are circumcision horrors. Iatrogenic. Get it?

complications are not common.....horror stories are very uncommon......but what if the problem was idiopathic and gasp unresponsive to conservative medical treatment......EVERYTHING IN A HOSPITAL IS IATROGENIC......congratulations on posting the obvious

You don't look. I've told you, you won't find double blind studies because they won't pass ethics boards, but I found this study with Google in 0.32 seconds using the search terms penis sensitivity survey.

then explain the study i posted? I advise you to read up on biases in studies......especially recall bias. They're the most likely ot interfere and cause a study to be unreliable, inconsistent, and not precise. If you want to measure sensation you measure neuronal impulses not a perceived feeling of perception because there is no way to measure it

Apparently you're not a frequent visitor to the gallery

more antecdotal evidence.....its like going to china and wondering where all the americans are.....come on dude your arguments are on the level of a 12 year old
apparently i was right and you have absolutely zero knowledge on anatomy.....skin stretches, if not you wouldnt be able to bend your arm without tearing the skin of your elbow. The scars, if present, do not go through layers of the penis that cause engorgement.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

EVERYTHING IN A HOSPITAL IS IATROGENIC

Entirely medically caused, as in the patient is a completely healthy newborn baby to begin with.

then explain the study i posted? I advise you to read up on biases in studies......especially recall bias.

You never posted a study. I said I had heard of it. They tested the glans of cut and intact men with tiny plastic filaments to study if there was a difference in sensitivity. Since the cut guys lack a foreskin, the experiment focused on the glans only. The glans is not a particularly sensitive organ in the first place.

The scars, if present, do not go through layers of the penis that cause engorgement.

(?) Cut guys can still get a hard-on and ejaculate. Is the ability to get hard and ejaculate your standard of sexual pleasure?

 

[baseball99]

dxjnorto

i posted a long reply and then my computer spazzed and i refuse to waste my time and retype it.....and im not pulling myself into your senseless, emotional arguments


g'day