Sue the Fed

[faceking]

No, not even remotely so.

Is your moral existence really so poorly developed that you honestly didn't know the answer to that question? If so, please seek professional help. If not, stop being a fucking troll.

Lighten up, Francis.

 

[faceking]

I remain truly baffled why a small but very vocal contingent hate the Fed. The Fed did it's job and prevented a major catastrophe from spiraling out of control and sending the world economy into uncharted territory. If you want to vent your anger vent it at Congress for undoing the speed brakes on the banks and doing nothing about the runaway train they ARE key in creating.

We agree here Sargon, but I had to correct one thing corrected for accuracy.

There's a lot of levers, but for one the Fed didn't have too much to do w/ the far-and-above reason for the recent woes.... housing burst. Like the dot.com burst that was predicated on hot air for 5-7 years, the housing boom was threefold... but instead of investments collapsing in the dot.bomb.... it was stupid consumers (aided by CRAct and Congress chastising banks for not making enough loans to the disenfranchised) using real estate either as a debt vehicle, and/or not taking the true debt and risk exposure in their finances. Ppl that fucking stupid shouldn't be allowed to buy a home.

Now we have Congress once again yelling at banks to give up more credit, getting mad at the credit card issuers, and so forth. Yikes.

 

[Speculator]

Why would you have to remove your avatar?

If you want to show everyone that you're only here to try and antagonize people, by doing silly things like putting up an avatar with gun sights superimposed on a picture of a sitting US president, go for it.

Yes that's an interesting point you raise about the Fed. I'm glad you've shared your opinions with us on the matter, they're full of insight. Thanks!

 

[faceking]

Back to the OP soon... but funny any libertards would have anything with crosshairs, given they've probably never seen a gun, much less know how to shoot it. Chances are they'd off themselves.

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So it wasn't clear to me... to sue the Fed for monetary compensation or change in policy? Good luck on either. Just like the drivel on taking Bush and Obama to The Hague for warcrimes. Zzzzzzzz.

 

[midlifebear]

Back to the OP soon... but funny any libertards would have anything with crosshairs, given they've probably never seen a gun, much less know how to shoot it. Chances are they'd off themselves.
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Facequeen, my favorite cutie patootie, I guess I don't qualify as a libertard. Although I do find the cross hair avatars a bit disturbing. Got my first BB gun at 8 years and an air rifle when I was 10 years-old. My first 22 when on my 12th birthday. Took all of the gun safety classes offered by the NRA (instead of the Boy Scouts of 'Mericuh) because they did then (and still do) teach gun safety better than any non-military organization. I got all the hunting and marksmanship merit badges available in the Scouts and the Explorers. Garnered a load of marksmanship trophies and shot lots of things (elk, bambis, antelope) for sport and learned how to dress them out in the middle of nowhere. And I have been able to live without a hand gun or power rifle since I was kicked out of my mormon parents' home at 16 years-old for being gay.

However, during the 70s I did go on the occasional hunting foray with a few groups of real butch queens who liked having someone along with them who was good-looking and had a bigger dick than any of them.

Once my brother's meds were correctly adjusted in his late 20s he gave me a 10 gage double barrel as an X-mas gift. It was sort of a peace offering for having tried to kill me several years earlier to baptize me in my blood for my own atonement for being gay so "Jeebus" would love me and I could enter heaven. I lurched just in time that he only shot me in the ass with a 22 caliber long shell with a split tip. It took a while for that wound to heal. Sadly, the shot gun was liberated from my home the first time I was burgled.

As for getting my "crazy" hands on a gun, as executor of my family's Trust I've had to store all of my grandparents, parents, and my few rifles in a big ol' safe. However, I see no need rush back to 'Mericuh and fondle them just so I know the "gubbernunt" hasn't abridged my Second Amendment rights.

So by all means, let them sue the Feds. I'll sit back and enjoy the humor.

And remember, friend, pal, and buddy you're supposed to eat everything you kill. So, if you ever feel hell bent on shooting humans, you better be ready to eat them. opcorn:

PS: Love ya, snookums. :tongue:

 

[Speculator]

Back to the OP soon... but funny any libertards would have anything with crosshairs, given they've probably never seen a gun, much less know how to shoot it. Chances are they'd off themselves.

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So it wasn't clear to me... to sue the Fed for monetary compensation or change in policy? Good luck on either. Just like the drivel on taking Bush and Obama to The Hague for warcrimes. Zzzzzzzz.

Central banking is a sordid, opaque and extremely confusing affair, whatever it is these people want (unless it's just a quick buck and their 15 minutes of fame) won't be achieved using the crude use measure of a lawsuit.

The politics of the money supply tends to have a funny effect on people.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Being that I grew up in a rough neighborhood where violence was something everyone expected, I too have also "seen a gun" as early as four years old. On top of this, I used and fired my first real one at the age of 12 and was held up at gunpoint by a thug on my way to school at the age of 17. Despite it all, I don't own a gun and have no intention of ever buying one. I know there's a bunch of lunatics out there, and even more paranoid people (like FaceQueen) that thinks everyone is trying to take what he owns. But ultimately, I know I can protect what is mine and my friends without ever getting to that point.

 

[faceking]

And remember, friend, pal, and buddy you're supposed to eat everything you kill. So, if you ever feel hell bent on shooting humans, you better be ready to eat them.

But of course, and only w/ fava beans and a nice chianti. Just ask one of Obama's census takers who tested me.

/yours in sociopathy, friend-o

 

[B_talltpaguy]

But of course, and only w/ fava beans and a nice chianti. Just ask one of Obama's census takers who tested me.

lol, your jokes are almost as old and stale as your chosen ideology.

 

[maxcok]

Most modern economically viable countries have a central bank, usually nationalized unlike the Fed, to shape monetary policies and stabilize their economies. In the majority of nations these are much more singular entities than the Fed board and Fed system is in the US. I say to the OP, the Paulites, and anyone else who advocates abolishment of the Fed, that's no solution unless you establish an alternative structure. What would you propose in its stead to perform these functions of stabilization - particularly in times of chaos, or to prevent chaos, in the wake of decades of economic deregulation in the US? In a world where international financial institutions and traders work tirelessly to create ever more exotic financial instruments designed to get around what little regulation remains, if not ignore the regulations outright?

If you want to show everyone that you're only here to try and antagonize people, by doing silly things like putting up an avatar with gun sights superimposed on a picture of a sitting US president, go for it.

If the Speck were in the US (and I suspect there's at least a 50/50 chance he is) he could expect a visit from the Secret Service and/or the FBI. Death threats against a president, even in 'jest', are taken that seriously.
If he really is a Brit, I doubt he's going entirely unnoticed there either. You think not? LOL. I imagine he'll be getting plenty of extra attention now regardless.

 

[Speculator]

If the Speck were in the US (and I suspect there's at least a 50/50 chance he is) he could expect a visit from the Secret Service and/or the FBI. Death threats against a president, even in 'jest', are taken that seriously. If he really is a Brit, I doubt he's going entirely unnoticed there either. You think not? LOL. I imagine he'll be getting plenty of extra attention now regardless.

Can you STOP with these ridiculous accusations. They're starting to grate on me. If you believe that I'm a troll then fair enough, my opinions are there for all to see so they can make their own minds up. But these personal attacks that I cannot disprove on an annonymous internet forum are way below the belt. How would you like it if I started accusing you of being a burglar or a terrorist in every other post?

Cut it out. What you imagine in your head is irrelevant.

 

[maxcok]

Can you STOP with these ridiculous accusations.

ooooohhh . . . . touchy, touchy . . . did baby frow its rattle out of its pram? LOL.

What "accusations"? It's a better than '50/50' speculation, Speculum. Surely you understand the difference between speculation and accusation, don't you? Particularly given your username. Nevertheless, you have to admit that tirelessly trolling the American topics in the Politics forum, giving your detailed analysis of our government and exhausting criticism of our political institutions, rarely venturing beyond, and your fixation on American "libtards" - seems altogether more than a little peculiar. Not to mention your proud association with the Teabaggers and their queen, Sister Sarah the Moosekiller. How many Brits obsessively identify with American right wingnuts and associate themselves with a party that claims as its inspiration the overthrow of British tyranny? I hardly think it's "ridiculous" to question your nationality, your sincerity, or your credibility - especially in light of your notorious posting history to date.

They're starting to grate on me.

Good. Then you're starting to feel just a tiny bit how the rest of us feel about your incessant trolling.

If you believe that I'm a troll then fair enough, my opinions are there for all to see so they can make their own minds up.

Your opinions, more importantly your inflammatory rhetoric and provocative tactics, couldn't be more obvious.
And yes, the overwhelming consensus is, you are a troll of the worst order.

But these personal attacks that I cannot disprove on an annonymous internet forum are way below the belt.

How is suggesting you could be American a "personal attack"? How would your Tea Party buddies feel about you calling it "below the belt" to suggest you just might be a "true-blue red-blooded" American?

You're whinging about nothing here, affecting false indignance, trying to characterize this as a "personal attack" and make yourself out to be a martyr. Again. And as always, you couldn't be more transparent.

How would you like it if I started accusing you of being a burglar, a terrorist or a kiddy fiddler in every other post?

First of all, I'd laugh at your childish exaggeration and your sad lack of imagination. Secondly, I fail to see how any of your examples compare to me suggesting you might be American. Perhaps you'd like to explain?

Cut it out. What you imagine in your head is irrelevant.

Your over-the-top defensive reaction to this suggestion is bizarre.
I wonder if what you "imagine in your head" might indicate paranoia.

I laid down a great deal of substance and posed some very pointed questions in my post that you quoted.
If you're done with your disingenuous tantrum, pretending to be indigant and acting the victim again, maybe there's something on topic you'd like to contribute as well.

 

[maxcok]

Pocket change compared to the trillions it has spent...

They didn't "spend" anything. It's all an illusion.

Listen and learn:​

The Invention of Money | This American Life​

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Wait... these stupid pictures of Sarah Palin are starting to get on the spec'd one's nerves? We're getting under his skin? The man who constantly uses the terms "the left", "leftists" and "liberals" like their inflammatory slurs is crying about personal attacks? Wow, this is rich! LOL!!!

 

[Speculator]

Wait... these stupid pictures of Sarah Palin are starting to get on the spec'd one's nerves? We're getting under his skin? The man who constantly uses the terms "the left", "leftists" and "liberals" like their inflammatory slurs is crying about personal attacks? Wow, this is rich! LOL!!!

No, MaxCok's constant attempts to undermine me by accusing me of lying about my location is pissing me off. What the hell has it got to do with anything? I could refute it by asking the mods to verify my IP address, but once I've proven him wrong it will only be something else, like my hair colour, my gender, what I like eating for dinner blah blah blah...

In Britain we have a saying for that, it's known as playing the man rather than the ball, i.e instead of using your mental faculties to address a point (which requires effort and intelligence) you instead resort to personal insults. It usually adopted by vindictive people with very weak powers of reasoning.

 

[maxcok]

No, MaxCok's constant attempts to undermine me by accusing me of lying about my location is pissing me off. What the hell has it got to do with anything? I could refute it by asking the mods to verify my IP address, but once I've proven him wrong it will only be something else, like my hair colour, my gender, what I like eating for dinner blah blah blah...

Yes, those would be the next logical steps. You do realize you're a complete joke, right?

Seriously, you're trying to characterize the mere suggestion you might be American as a "personal attack"?

In Britain we have a saying for that, it's known as playing the man rather than the ball, i.e instead of using your mental faculties to address a point (which requires effort and intelligence) you instead resort to personal insults. It usually adopted by vindictive people with very weak powers of reasoning.

Oh little speck, you master of deflection. Or should I say "reflection"? Here ya go. :wink:

Ya know, this martyr posture you keep adopting would be hilarious if it weren't so tiresome and exaggerated.

I feel a bit like Jesus around here sometimes, my message is one of peace, tolerance and freedom - just do your own thing as long as you're not harming others - and the reaction towards me is often violent.

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:crucified:​

Violent? "peace, tolerance and freedom"? LOL.

 

[Speculator]

Yes, those would be the next logical steps. You do realize you're a complete joke, right?

Seriously, you're trying to characterize the mere suggestion you might be American as a "personal attack"?

Oh little speck, you master of deflection. Or should I say "reflection"? Here ya go. :wink:

Ya know, this martyr posture you keep adopting would be hilarious if it weren't so tiresome and exaggerated.

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:crucified:​

Violent? "peace, tolerance and freedom"? LOL.

Yawn, yes yes, I know you love my old posts and like to keep them alive for posterity, but we really must move on. I expect you have the "culturalist" post stored on your hard-drive somewhere like a dirty little secret. It's time to get over it Microcok.

Imo the Federal reserve is in need of some sort of reform, but monetary changes alone won't be enough to revive America's fortunes. Just like the UK, you need to deal with the fiscal disaster that constitutes your economy and this would be best achieved with tax reform. You have massive debts so it's time to make work pay, that means shifting taxation away from production.

Suing the Fed is just another sticking plaster over a gaping wound; the patient is in need of some serious treatment that works in harmony with the free market -the antibodies- not another measure that fights against it.

Your socialist clap-trap will only lead the U.S futher down the toilet.

 

[B_crackoff]

Speculator

Take down that avatar. It looks like the start of James Bond - & James Bond doesn't run from naked women!

BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | 'Why Obama came to my stag do'

I'm a little jealous that you made 58, & I only made 59 of the people that VB ran away & cried from. I think I told you when you started that the US side of this forum is impossibly tribal, often filled with keyboard bullies who are making up for not having enough swing in the locker room at school.

Funnily enough, they're the same people who consider themselves egalitarian! PC though is just marxist thought control - freedoms are never universally applied.

I see your point that you believe a bunch of guys are just trying to make a buck & a name for themselves by trying to sue the Fed. It is an idiotic action.

Far simpler just to take it back into government control, & stop bailing out & enriching its owners, whilst simultaneously trying, & asset stripping the beasts that have ruined everyone's lives, & giving them a fresh new start in a cell with lifers.

Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Note to crackoff... I didn't run away. A pussy like you could never make me do that. You just exceeded my stupidity quotient when you took one of my obvious tongue in cheek, sarcastic remarks and tried to claim that I condone rape. So I put you on ignore. But unfortunately for you, someone told me that you were talking shit about me for no reason so now I'm back to give you hell.

When you're ready to have a real debate, do let me know and do try to stay the fuck on topic. Otherwise, get off my nuts.

 

[Speculator]

Speculator

Take down that avatar. It looks like the start of James Bond - & James Bond doesn't run from naked women!

BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | 'Why Obama came to my stag do'

I didn't really like it anyway, just adoped it as a counter to VinylGirl's bigotry (he gets upset when I call him "boy", it's apparrently a racist slur)
The left need to be shown a mirror every once in a while so they can see what they really look like, otherwise they start believing their own propaganda.

Far simpler just to take it back into government control, & stop bailing out & enriching its owners, whilst simultaneously trying, & asset stripping the beasts that have ruined everyone's lives, & giving them a fresh new start in a cell with lifers.

Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

That was a good article, imo they should just list the Fed on the stock market and give everyone a chance to dip their fingers in the pie. It won't help, I just think it would be a laugh.