Sugar dating

[longcockguyandlover]

i signed up to a sugar dating site and talked with some women online, but i want a relationship/friendship AND sex to be honest in one package. but at a preliminary stage, is it right to bring up sex? or if they are up for sex? I know in this deal it's kind of implied, but not always.

 

[nailz]

I can't imagine anything worse than being "friends" or in a "relationship" with someone who is with you based on some material expectations or arrangement.

There are 7.4 billion people on this planet, and according to statistics half of the ones in the US/Europe are single. Many of those are good people that don't care about income level, penis size, 6-packs, what car you drive, etc and are just looking for a decent guy to come home to every night.

If you have money to spend on a "sugar baby" (I actually gagged when I typed that), then why not spend it on constructive things that will increase your chances of finding a proper partner that cares about you and not just your wallet? Anything that will boost your confidence level, make you stand out and be more interesting to the other sex, and get you socializing with people. It could be something as simple as taking a cooking class, or something exotic like parasailing in Phuket

Or you just want to pay someone for sex then I think you are better off with an escort than a "sugar baby", at least it seems like an honest transaction instead of supporting a manipulative parasite.

 

[longcockguyandlover]

I can't imagine anything worse than being "friends" or in a "relationship" with someone who is with you based on some material expectations or arrangement.

There are 7.4 billion people on this planet, and according to statistics half of the ones in the US/Europe are single. Many of those are good people that don't care about income level, penis size, 6-packs, what car you drive, etc and are just looking for a decent guy to come home to every night.

If you have money to spend on a "sugar baby" (I actually gagged when I typed that), then why not spend it on constructive things that will increase your chances of finding a proper partner that cares about you and not just your wallet? Anything that will boost your confidence level, make you stand out and be more interesting to the other sex, and get you socializing with people. It could be something as simple as taking a cooking class, or something exotic like parasailing in Phuket

Or you just want to pay someone for sex then I think you are better off with an escort than a "sugar baby", at least it seems like an honest transaction instead of supporting a manipulative parasite.

manipulation doesn't work with consent.

 

[EllieP]

manipulation doesn't work with consent.

I think you're missing the point about why the consent is given.

 

[longcockguyandlover]

I think you're missing the point about why the consent is given.

Nobody is forced, there is no gun to one's head. And people work for money, we do as humans, we need material things to live!

that's your view, I see nothing wrong in it. And as it's casual, there is nothing wrong with it, nobody is hurt. People also care about dick size or bank balance. it;s your view people shouldn't, fine. But people do nonetheless.

 

[EllieP]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on what consent is.

In my view consent is freely given, and not based on a quid pro quo. Giving me a Volvo to sleep with me is somewhat manipulative, wouldn't you agree? In this case an argument could be made on either side of who's doing the manipulation.

Any kind of sugar daddy/baby relationship is all about quid pro quo. Building a long lasting relationship on such an arrangement seems tenuous at best.

 

[longcockguyandlover]

consent comes from developing the terms of the relationship and that people are free to leave or enter as they choose. It's a contract, and any contract is valid provided both know what they're getting into before entering. I don't think it's the same as a traditional love relationship, but people will have their own means/logic for entering into it.

 

[longcockguyandlover]

another thing is it's not really about dating or love in traditional sense. it's about fun, and there's no pretentions that's it's just about short-term attraction and need. and if it helps both parties, in time, money, money for important things, or sex, then why not?

 

[twoton]

I'm not sure what sugar dating is. Is that where one person gives another person gifts in exchange for spending time together?

So it's like a cash-free hiring of an escort or prostitute? Remember, you're supposed to pay taxes on "income" whether it's for money or barter/trade.

 

[701757]

Remember, you're supposed to pay taxes on "income" whether it's for money or barter/trade.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Draconis71]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

no lols on this one.
In Canada, prostitution IS legal (to my knowledge)... But, communications for it are illegal. And, yes, you DO have to report it.
In the USA... look how they caught Al Capone...

 

[Draconis71]

I can't imagine anything worse than being "friends" or in a "relationship" with someone who is with you based on some material expectations or arrangement.

There are 7.4 billion people on this planet, and according to statistics half of the ones in the US/Europe are single. Many of those are good people that don't care about income level, penis size, 6-packs, what car you drive, etc and are just looking for a decent guy to come home to every night.

If you have money to spend on a "sugar baby" (I actually gagged when I typed that), then why not spend it on constructive things that will increase your chances of finding a proper partner that cares about you and not just your wallet? Anything that will boost your confidence level, make you stand out and be more interesting to the other sex, and get you socializing with people. It could be something as simple as taking a cooking class, or something exotic like parasailing in Phuket

Or you just want to pay someone for sex then I think you are better off with an escort than a "sugar baby", at least it seems like an honest transaction instead of supporting a manipulative parasite.

Looks like she nailz this one...

 

[Draconis71]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on what consent is.

In my view consent is freely given, and not based on a quid pro quo. Giving me a Volvo to sleep with me is somewhat manipulative, wouldn't you agree? In this case an argument could be made on either side of who's doing the manipulation.

Any kind of sugar daddy/baby relationship is all about quid pro quo. Building a long lasting relationship on such an arrangement seems tenuous at best.

Quick question, Ellie....
Would you settle for a 2006 High Young Day Accident? (I _MEAN_ 2006 Hyundai Accent...)

 

[EllieP]

Quick question, Ellie....
Would you settle for a 2006 High Young Day Accident? (I _MEAN_ 2006 Hyundai Accent...)

Yes.

Oh, sorry I misread. I thought you said a 26 Young Hung with an Accent.

 

[Draconis71]

Yes.

Oh, sorry I misread. I thought you said a 26 Young Hung with an Accent.

You SURE about the accent? (I'm looking for a sucker to take it off my hands... I SWEAR it doesn't have electrical problems: The garage has been testing it for 4/5 years the vehicle was under warranty, and couldn't find anything wrong.. but, was willing to replace batteries at 159 each + 75 installation 5x)

 

[longcockguyandlover]

Looks like she nailz this one...

I disagree with her. any nailing is strongly moot...lol.

 

[701757]

no lols on this one.
In Canada, prostitution IS legal (to my knowledge)... But, communications for it are illegal. And, yes, you DO have to report it.
In the USA... look how they caught Al Capone...

Not legal anymore, but that wasn't what I was laughing at.

Everyone's discussing the sugar dating dynamic, and this guy's like "HEY FELLOW KIDS, DON'T FORGET TO PAY YOUR TAXES!!!" hahahahahaha

 

[701757]

I can't imagine anything worse than being "friends" or in a "relationship" with someone who is with you based on some material expectations or arrangement.

There are 7.4 billion people on this planet, and according to statistics half of the ones in the US/Europe are single. Many of those are good people that don't care about income level, penis size, 6-packs, what car you drive, etc and are just looking for a decent guy to come home to every night.

If you have money to spend on a "sugar baby" (I actually gagged when I typed that), then why not spend it on constructive things that will increase your chances of finding a proper partner that cares about you and not just your wallet? Anything that will boost your confidence level, make you stand out and be more interesting to the other sex, and get you socializing with people. It could be something as simple as taking a cooking class, or something exotic like parasailing in Phuket

Or you just want to pay someone for sex then I think you are better off with an escort than a "sugar baby", at least it seems like an honest transaction instead of supporting a manipulative parasite.

Bzzzt WRONG (apparently)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/54krld/nsfw_current_and_former_sex_workers_and_sugar/

Just read some of the responses.

 

[deleted882658]

another thing is it's not really about dating or love in traditional sense. it's about fun, and there's no pretentions that's it's just about short-term attraction and need. and if it helps both parties, in time, money, money for important things, or sex, then why not?

YOU ARE CORRECT

My longest relationship was with sugar daddy. When I met him I was just going to dinner with friends he approached me and asked me out on a date we went out for drinks. We talked and laughed and during this conversation he said he couldn't promise me love and he couldn't promise me babies or marriage but what he can promise is that he would provide me with the things that I need and the things that I want that well within reason. He said a man should always make sure the woman in his life has the tool she needs to survive and any man who wants to have a sexual relationship with a woman but won't financially provide for her isnt a man. I met him when I was 18 years old and I stayed with him for roughly 10 years. He used to say a man wants a woman to looked her best at all times but that all cost money make up cost money clothes cost money manicures cost money shoes cost money healthy food cost money. If a man wants his woman to be the best version of herself then he should be willing to provide the financial support in order for her to do so. As a sugar baby for many years the best thing about having a sugar relationship is everything is discussed upfront. There is no disillusion of what the relationship could be there's no hidden agenda is as to what the other person is looking for it's all out in the open so that both parties can decide whether this is a relationship they want to commit to or not. No one is manipulated because there is no gameplaying like there is in traditional relationships where both parties are trying to manipulate the other person into doing what they want in the case of the female she's trying to manipulate this man into marrying her and in the case of the male he's just trying to have sex with her as often and as cheaply as possible.

 

[701757]

I can't imagine anything worse than being "friends" or in a "relationship" with someone who is with you based on some material expectations or arrangement.

There are 7.4 billion people on this planet, and according to statistics half of the ones in the US/Europe are single. Many of those are good people that don't care about income level, penis size, 6-packs, what car you drive, etc and are just looking for a decent guy to come home to every night.

If you have money to spend on a "sugar baby" (I actually gagged when I typed that), then why not spend it on constructive things that will increase your chances of finding a proper partner that cares about you and not just your wallet? Anything that will boost your confidence level, make you stand out and be more interesting to the other sex, and get you socializing with people. It could be something as simple as taking a cooking class, or something exotic like parasailing in Phuket

Or you just want to pay someone for sex then I think you are better off with an escort than a "sugar baby", at least it seems like an honest transaction instead of supporting a manipulative parasite.

YOU ARE CORRECT

My longest relationship was with sugar daddy. When I met him I was just going to dinner with friends he approached me and asked me out on a date we went out for drinks. We talked and laughed and during this conversation he said he couldn't promise me love and he couldn't promise me babies or marriage but what he can promise is that he would provide me with the things that I need and the things that I want that well within reason. He said a man should always make sure the woman in his life has the tool she needs to survive and any man who wants to have a sexual relationship with a woman but won't financially provide for her isnt a man. I met him when I was 18 years old and I stayed with him for roughly 10 years. He used to say a man wants a woman to looked her best at all times but that all cost money make up cost money clothes cost money manicures cost money shoes cost money healthy food cost money. If a man wants his woman to be the best version of herself then he should be willing to provide the financial support in order for her to do so. As a sugar baby for many years the best thing about having a sugar relationship is everything is discussed upfront. There is no disillusion of what the relationship could be there's no hidden agenda is as to what the other person is looking for it's all out in the open so that both parties can decide whether this is a relationship they want to commit to or not. No one is manipulated because there is no gameplaying like there is in traditional relationships where both parties are trying to manipulate the other person into doing what they want in the case of the female she's trying to manipulate this man into marrying her and in the case of the male he's just trying to have sex with her as often and as cheaply as possible.

Oooooooh #REKT lol