Suicide - Does it send one to hell?

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Though the Catholic Church teaches that suicide is a condemnable sin, as a practical matter, someone who has committed suicide is usually deemed not to have been in his "right mind" and would not have done so were he mentally stable. As a result, because he must have been ill, a suicide is rarely denied last rights, a church service or burial and will not be considered comdemned to hell.
 

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I'm more of a spiritual person than a religious person. However, I do have some strong beliefs regarding suicide, etc. I'm a proponent of the Golden Rule; Do unto others as you'd have them to do unto you. I'm also of the school of thought that life is a gift. You cannot resolve anything if you are dead/don't have a body to do so.

To commit suicide is to willfully throw away that gift. As far as any kind of documentation of an "afterlife" there is nothing official. However, it has been proven that having a relative who commits suicide wreaks havoc, especially for the people who have to find the body, and also the immediate family and friends.

My thoughts are that it hurts people, It will chances are come back on you some way; a la the old custom of burying suicides at crossroads so they would forever be lost, therefore, it's wrong.

I personally do not believe in Heaven or Hell; but I do believe the life you lead will impact the afterlife you get, and I think Suicide is one of the worst "sins" if you will.
 

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So why have any basic morals if we have no soul? We do have a soul, it's the real 'you', not your physical body.


I feel a little bit sorry for anyone who cannot think of any other good reason to be a decent human being than that some invisible spirit haunts their body which may or may not be punished for being sinful or immoral.

I ccan think of dozens of reasons to be a decent human being... none of which involve ghosts.
 
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If suicide were not stigmatized, more people would choose to exit voluntarily from intolerable situations and possibly fewer intolerable situations would be condoned by our cultures. But no, those who profit from cruelty to others must outlaw it or they would have no prey.
 

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I was raised jewish we don't believe in hell.


As was I. Hell does not exist in the text of the Torah. A place called limbo does in fact exist within the text and belief structure but it is rarely discussed. And as far as any of it being true? As true as an novel located in the fiction section.
(My opinion)
 

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So why have any basic morals if we have no soul? We do have a soul, it's the real 'you', not your physical body.


Ok I'll bite. So according to your logic in this particular post your suggesting that if there were no soul then there would be no morals? That makes about as much sense as slamming my head into a wall. Morals are societal. From place to place they can change. It has nothing to do with some mythical "soul".
 

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I feel a little bit sorry for anyone who cannot think of any other good reason to be a decent human being than that some invisible spirit haunts their body which may or may not be punished for being sinful or immoral.

I ccan think of dozens of reasons to be a decent human being... none of which involve ghosts.

^This. I still don't understand why people need to fear to be kind. It boggles my mind.
 

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Heaven and hell are fictions made up by humans, often to control one another -- fictions that are clung to by those who stubbornly refuse to accept the reality that there is in fact no system of compensation for the injustices of the world in which we live.

Death, regardless of cause, sends us into complete oblivion. Of this I feel 99.9999999% certain.
 

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Maybe I'm confused but wouldn't it be both? They wrote it, meaning scriptural and they do like you say use it to control their flock.

Whom do you mean by "they"? Were any books of the Bible written by clergy?

Here is a useful page on the extent of scriptural basis for the doctrine of hell.
 

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if done with a completely sound mind, yes. but this is so rare it is almost impossible! why not leave that decision to the One who gave the life in the first place?!
 

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And, of course, someone with just a bit of resourcefulness can find a scriptural basis for just about anything.
I didn't have the patience to study every paragraph of the page that I cited, let alone look up all the biblical passages, but one thing emerged clearly from a survey of pages on the subject: The ones that are written to justify the attribution of the doctrine of hell to the Bible, in contrast to the ones written to undercut that attribution, consistently use disreputable methods. They cite passages without regard to context, without regard even to whether they come from the Tanakh or the New Testament; they rarely take account of problems of translation; and the passages, even as they are quoted, usually do not in fact substantiate the interpretative claims. The skeptical pages, by contrast, seem far more sound in their methods.

My main point is that, in matters of scriptural interpretation as in all other matters pertinent to religion, it is religious ideologues and not skeptics who do the most to promote ignorance, misunderstanding, and cynicism.
 

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I feel a little bit sorry for anyone who cannot think of any other good reason to be a decent human being than that some invisible spirit haunts their body which may or may not be punished for being sinful or immoral.

I ccan think of dozens of reasons to be a decent human being... none of which involve ghosts.

Suicide is an easy way out, and is for cowards. As far as where your soul goes, it is not for any of us to decide or condemn.
I'm not saying im not a decent human being, and I adhere to the laws set forth in this land (albeit many polluted).
I was referring to all athiest's post's above me - They are correct. You, me or anyone who denies God, or his existence DOES NOT adhere to any kind of moral values set by any kind of religion. Personal values, codes of conduct, right from wrong are taught to us by who? and a better question - WHY? Why be a 'good' person? Cheat, steal, and do whatever you feel like, if you can get away with it, right? no God, no conscience. Logically, If you have no soul you have no conscience. Understand that we are here in by some cosmic mistake! We are just a collection of cells, just meandering along in society, souless.
what could be more sad.
First understand 'Why' to be a decent person. If there are no consequences to any of our actions here in life, other than doing what our laws tell us to do, it's party time!