Supplements for building testosterone?

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  1. tinydick4u

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    I recently found out that I am on the border of needing hormone replacement therapy.OK,so my body has almost quit producing testosterone,because I abused steroids for two years when I was young.Is there a way to get my body to produce more?I have been getting a little exercise and I am working on my diet.Is there some legal (in the US) supplements that I can purchase from a place like GNC,that will help replace some of my missing testosterone.I really don't wanna take steroids again,even if it's under a doctors supervision.I know how I was, and how I will be again, if I do.I was able to kick the habit when I was young,not to sure I have it in me to do it again.I ask my doc about this,but I believe he is getting kick backs for pushing certain drugs on people.I'm kind of stuck and can't change docs because I don't have medical insurance.Not to mention,I don't have the funds to pay for hormone treatments.Any idears or suggestions?
     
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    it's not testosterone, but try DHEA, I take 1/2 a 25mg tab daily.
     
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    u need ur serum testosterone levels checked first!! (morning blood draw)
     
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    That was done and came back low.I do not remember the numbers,but the doc suggested I go through hormone replacement.He knows about my past steroid abuse and how hard it was for me to kick it.I'm looking for ways to help my body produce more testosterone without actually taking a steroid.If it's possible.
     
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    Thanks.
    I'll look into that.
     
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    hey hey

    the strongest testosterone boosting stuff i took is Tongkat Ali - also known as Longifolia or Eurycoma Longifolia. Not sh*ting ya.

    try get the highest percentage and dose out there. Lots to pick from one. I get mine from a Canadian company.

    Try get the pill form -- the powder form will make ya puke. Unless you are into that.

    I don't even touch the other stuff now.
     
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    how did you abuse them for two years? Did you take them constantly, or just a few casual cycles over that time period? Did you stack a few together?
     
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    If you qualify for male HRT then this is your best bet. There are problems in that most MD's do not do this one right.

    You need to have the following tests run and have them as part of your medical record.

    1. Serum Testosterone level:
    This is the single test that your MD has already run quite probably, but that still does not give a complete answer.

    2. Free Floating Testosterone level: This test shows what is available for use.

    3. DHT Level: This one determines if your liver is producing an enzyme called 5-alpha -reductase and if you are converting the appropriate quantity of what testosterone you make into DHT. If the conversion process is not working right, they can give you male HRT and it will not give you the help that you need as it should. If this is the case what they then do is to make up a transdermal DHT supplement or have a combo cream made up specifically for you. You get the anabolic effects from the regular Testosterone, but your secondary sex characteristics and performance in the sack are maintained by the DHT.

    4. The next test you need is an estrogen level. Very often the estrogen level is raised if this is high you need to be placed on an anti-estrogen as well. This is a pill and easy to do.

    5. The final thing is your prolactin level. If the prolactin is elevated again the effects of the testosterone you would be given would be greatly diminished.

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    I had an interesting experience on this one myself. I have for years taken IC injections for ED. This was simple my So Cal MD was seen earlier this year. He did some blood work and came back with the real true answers. My testosterone levels were like yours in the cellar, (all of them) In addition I had elevated estrogen and prolactin levels.

    I was thrown on a combo Testosterone cream, every 90 days I have to do a round of human chorionic gonadotropin to keep my testicles doing what they can, and I was placed on both estrogen and prolactin killers.

    Surprise Surprise! Though not perfect, about ten days later I no longer needed injections consistently for ED. I still have a great supply for "special occasions" but, I can now use low dose daily tadalafil and things work just great.

    I am a strong believer in male HRT, but, if it is done wrong and all the levels in your body are not brought under control the whole thing doesn't work right. I am in the eyes of some a "senior" at 57.

    Pal, yes by all means do this, BUT, see to it that they balance everything or you have your body out of control with the treatments being over-ridden by other hormones still out of balance.

    The steroids very likely are NOT the culprit here. Unless you took incredible dosages for a very prolonged period the pituitary axis is prone to trying to right itself. Most doing this go through a refractory period but the testicles do try and get going again.

    This is more than likely that the cause was not the steroids, but instead some other thing that may have happened at a later time anyway. The only thing that steroid abuse would be likely to do would be to make it happen a wee bit sooner.

    I wish you the best of luck on this one.

    Tonkat may be effective, but the truth is that the good stuff will cost you a great deal more $$ than the HRT will.
     
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    I had a friend do the same in college...stayed on cycle pretty much all the time. Now he's doing HRT. He just turned 30. Definitely speak with your physician about it.
     
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    A friend and myself were working with a trainer.When we hit that point were we couldn't push any more weight,he had us pushing roids under his supervision.He administered the dosage and we followed a strict daily injection.At times he would double us up on injections.I was young and dumb.I didn't think of or care about future side effects.All I wanted was to be the strongest with the biggest muscles.I had the gotta have it now mentality and it still bites me in the ass from time to time.That's why I agreed to roids.The promise of faster and better results during training.
     
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    I'll do that if I can ever afford medical insurance.
     
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    were the results good when u did the juice back in teh day? crank up your bod??
     
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    Before you buy any "pills", hit up the bodybuilding.com forums and check out the supplements section. They go into some serious depth about pH boosters and such. There is a sentiment that the pills simply do not work. Not trying to be a downer, just don't want you to spend money on something that won't help you.

    HRT is likely to be your best bet. Safer too.
     
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    I have low testosterone and found a good endrochrinologist who helped me move back into the normal range. Low testosterone affects other bodily functions besides your ability to get it up. My endrchrinologist working with my urologist keep me in the normal range for a guy my age. I have regained much of my muscle tone and enjoya healthy sex life.

    I was prescribed Androgel - a topical supplement gel that I put on my shoulders every morning after I shower. I will admit that I do still take levitra and wear a cock ring ( I also have damage from hypertension) when I know I am going to have sex to guarantee that I remain hard for as long as I need to satisfy both me and my partner.
     
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    Yes,but I strongly recommend to people that are considering steroids,not to do it.




    My levels are low enough that the doc says it's causing the extreme fatigue and lack of hair growth that I have been experiencing the past few years.
     
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    Prohormones are virtually banned now in the US.

    Just follow FuzzyKens advice. Many doctors including endocrinologists DONT know how to treat this properly, see All Things Male - Center for Men's Health
     
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    Consume more broccoli or cauliflower. Some research suggests that it helps reduce estrogen uptake and acts as pre-cursor to testosterone production.
     
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    It's also natural and far less expensive than taking pills.

     
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    I know that you're kicking the habit, but check out some forums with experienced roid users. I know that there's a particular thing they sometimes take now (Luteinizing Hormone?) which is supposed to counteract or lessen the downsides of steroids, such as testicular atrophy and your testosterone production. Don't just go and buy it on their word though, ask a doctor how it is likely to affect you; from what I've heard, it's fairly new to the market, and many doctors wouldn't be familiar with it unless they checked up on it.
     
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    Ask your doctors about Clomid. It's usually prescribed to women who need help with ovulation, but it ups LH (Lutenizing Hormone) and in men, that causes your gonads to start producing testosterone. You can read about this on the bodybuilding boards for post-cycle therapy, and plenty of endocrinologists will use it for situations like yours. (And in your situation, I'd try to find a knowledgeable doctor to help out rather than obtaining it myself.) From my understanding, once you use testosterone-replacement, you have to use it forever, so you might as well try to restart your own production of the stuff first.
     
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