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Man, I feel for you. I think that sometimes older people forget what it is like to be young. Older people in power want to control younger people. During the holidays, I was talking wih my sister and she was fussing about the music my niece listens to. Gangster rap with "bitchos" (Think "nachos" and "beyotches") "Puss*. Puss*. Strewn in the lyrics. Of course back in the day, my sister went to Prince concerts. Rick James concerts. [Back then, my mom wouldn't allow me to go to Prince and Rick James concerts because of : 1) I was underage and 2)the marijuana and drug usage that always happens at the concerts.. I could listen to the records though.] Now that my sister has morals because "she" goes to church and has "Gawd" in her life. I'm thinking, Maybe older people feel kinda of unsexy now that they're getting older. They feel kind of envious of young people because they were young and they could not do what young people do today. That's just my observation on that. I find that being uptight as hell about sex just isn't sexy to me. Reality always strays from perceptions and what is morally correct. It is sad but it is one of many truths.
 

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I like to think that each successive generation of parents gets better. But, I know from observation and reading that parents tend to raise their kids almost exactly the way that they were raised.
 

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caneadea said:
I like to think that each successive generation of parents gets better. But, I know from observation and reading that parents tend to raise their kids almost exactly the way that they were raised.
... so effectively, each generation of parents actually gets worse? :tongue:

that would certainly explain a great many things.
 

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Dr Rock said:
... so effectively, each generation of parents actually gets worse? :tongue:

that would certainly explain a great many things.
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I think that some get better; some get worse.
Not much changes.
 

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One thing we all need to keep in mind is that a lot of this discussion is predicated upon conclusions we all make regarding the actions and attitudes of the US government.

If you love this site, or any others on the internet, PLEASE familiarize yourself with, and support, http://www.freespeechcoalition.com and http://www.ncsfreedom.org. These two organizations are working to keep the government from blocking/closing down/censoring our websites and to keep the government out of our bedrooms. The Free Speech Coalition is working hard to protect our rights to view what we choose online or in print, and they desperately need our awareness and support. They are the only organization I am aware of actively fighting USC 18/sec 2257. If you don't know about 2257, I'm sure Rob will be more than happy to fill you in. I will just simply say it is a threat to our 1st Amendment rights.
 

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DC_DEEP said:
One thing we all need to keep in mind is that a lot of this discussion is predicated upon conclusions we all make regarding the actions and attitudes of the US government.

If you love this site, or any others on the internet, PLEASE familiarize yourself with, and support, http://www.freespeechcoalition.com and http://www.ncsfreedom.org. These two organizations are working to keep the government from blocking/closing down/censoring our websites and to keep the government out of our bedrooms. The Free Speech Coalition is working hard to protect our rights to view what we choose online or in print, and they desperately need our awareness and support. They are the only organization I am aware of actively fighting USC 18/sec 2257. If you don't know about 2257, I'm sure Rob will be more than happy to fill you in. I will just simply say it is a threat to our 1st Amendment rights.

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Yeh, Rob,
Fill me in on USC 18/sec 2257............................
 

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I fear he may be risking "throwing the baby out with the bathwater". One would have to be niave to pretend that there didn't exist on this site people who are here with the sole reason of getting young, fit, hung teens to show them their cock, and the legality of doing that with under 18 year olds is clear.

However, there are, and I hope it is the majority, 2 other groups. There are those who are here, of any age, with questions they feel unable to ask elsewhere, and there are those who have been in that same situation, and are here in order to help answer those questions.

As for comparing/showing, in the right context, there's nothing wrong with that. However, that need not be an integral part of the site, that can go on using whatever IM program the people concerned want.

I think this site has a far greater purpose as a forum for advice and discussion than it has as a porn site. With no naked pictures here on the site, there's no reason to bar anyone of any age.

Perhaps one possible solution would be to allow all ages in, close down the galleries and ban the posting of nude images, and have a self rating system on threads, similar to a movie rating.

However, how would that rating work? How is it inappropriate to discuss the differences between being circumcised and not being circumcised? I'm sure there are many young guys out there who had no say in that operation being done, and want to know why it was done and what difference it makes, but do not feel comfortable with asking their parents. Other similar issues are the same. Does a topic being penis related make it wrong to discuss it with an under 18?

I do feel that some of the threads I've seen here have been for no reason other than titilation, with old men asking to be supplied with masturbation material. It would be a shame if that's all this site was reduced to, with all the people who came here looking to use the site as it was originally intended being forced to leave.
 

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caneadea said:
Yeh, Rob,
Fill me in on USC 18/sec 2257....
I'll give you a brief overview... Title 18 United States Code, section 2257 is a Federal Law. Title 18 in general deals with "crimes and criminal procedure." Actually, it is Title 18 (Crimes and Criminal Procedure) Part I (Crimes) Chapter 110 (Sexual Exploitation and Other Abuses of Children) Section 2257 (Record Keeping Requirements). This has been on the books, since, I think, 1990... as a result of President Reagan's urging, the creation of the Meese Commission, and their subsequent "findings." Due to the proliferation of the Internet since 1990, the Congress has renewed interest in the statutes. Okay, think back to 1990, when the law was passed... especially your Internet access... oh, right, chances are you DIDN'T HAVE internet access then - most people did not. The definitions were all easier when pornography was basically either videotape, film, or print. It was not interactive, once distributed could not really be altered. Now look at any porn produced since, say, 1995. It all has (by legal requirement) the "disclosure statement" affirming that all models are of legal age, who verified, where records are kept... Now jump back to the present, where just about anything is available online, people can upload pics or videos of just about anything... Proposed additional regulations (I'm not sure if they have been adopted yet) define the webmaster as a "secondary producer" and make him liable to the record-keeping requirements, as well as having the disclosure statement on the home page. This statement requires, among other things, the name and physical address of the secondary producer (no P. O. Box) to be in print at least 11 pt... on the home page. It also requires extensive record-keeping of each and every image on the website, including proof of identity of the persons depicted. The records are to be kept apart from any other records, and must be maintained for 7 years, or 5 years after the close of the business. The records are also to be available for inspection by federal agents 24 hours per day, 365 days per year. Inspectors may or may not give advance notice, as they deem "appropriate."

Some of the definitions used in the law could be very broadly defined, especially the definitions of "sexually explicit." Nudity, per se, is not... but an erect penis, or a hand near a penis, could be... All it would take is one disgruntled fundie to make a complaint. That would give the feds all the "probable cause" they needed to seize records, including your credit card info if you are a paid member... your email address... it goes on and on. The law also gives the Attorney General amazingly broad power to make arbitrary additional decisions.

Sorry this is so long, but I feel it is important that we all know what we are working with here. Rob, if I have made any glaring mistakes here, please feel free to correct me.