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You guys have obviously never been to court over an assault charge and a couple of you act like you are oblivious to the legal system and how it works.

Atleast Burns' argument was fairly logical

So... by y'alls logic you can knock out someone's teeth for being dry humped as part of a stage act...

Could Johnny have gotten up and slit Danny's throat for knocking out his teeth?

Your logic is faulty...
 

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You guys have obviously never been to court over an assault charge and a couple of you act like you are oblivious to the legal system and how it works.

Atleast Burns' argument was fairly logical

So... by y'alls logic you can knock out someone's teeth for being dry humped as part of a stage act...

Could Johnny have gotten up and slit Danny's throat for knocking out his teeth?

Your logic is faulty...

Tri, you're the one who brought up that legalese element to the thread - I think it's safe to say that most of us don't give a shit about the defense VS prosecution side of that story, we're just happy to see that dork Fairplay get his teeth literally knocked out, especially since he got himself into that position (again, literally)... I'm not a lawyer and, as far as I know, neither are you, so it's kinda of pointless to talk about M.O. rationale and assault charges and all that crap.

Also: what exactly do you know about my criminal history?
 

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What exactly do you know about my criminal history?

Well... you are the one person who seemed to have a good handle on the legalese of this situation, I would hope that your experience with assault charges are VERY few if none. My experience was as a witness at numerous assault hearings because I was the bouncer at the bar when the fights occurred. My legal knowledge is sufficient to back up what I am saying, so I don't need a law degree to figure it out.

The whole legal thing was a reaction to what I saw when I looked at the link, I think I have every right to express my opinion on the matter and my opinion happens to be a moderated and adult one
 

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Legally, Bonaduce could claim he acted in self defense.

--He did say he felt threatened with Fairplay's hands so close to his neck.
--Fairplay initiated the contact.
--Bonaduce acted in response to that conduct.

Given that Bonaduce has a history of working out and is stronger than Fairplay, it stands to reason he could have done far more damage than he did. What he did was simply a removal of the threat he felt. He didn't further antagonize Fairplay. No further contact was made by Bonaduce once he removed the threat.

Bonaduce has probably taken fighting classes and surely has more training in all things physical than Fairplay. The reaction to being baby-koalaed and humped could have been instinctual based upon that training. That he simply hoists Fairplay over his head and steps out of the situation suggests an instinctual reaction to get out of the situation rather than the desire to physically fight with Fairplay.

In the position in which Fairplay was wrapped around Bonaduce, the up and over technique was probably the quickest, easiest, and most succinct manner in which to end the altercation. Bonaduce's lack of aggression once the physical contact was terminated does not suggest maintained malice and intent to cause bodily harm. It shows that he was acting within the confines of self defense and acted out of the instinct to remove himself from a situation in which he felt threatened.


...enough legalese for ya?
 

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Given that Bonaduce has a history of working out and is stronger than Fairplay, it stands to reason he could have done far more damage than he did. He hoisted him with all of his strength... Johnny couldn't have hit the floor any harder. What he did was simply a removal of the threat he felt. You have got to be kidding me! He didn't further antagonize Fairplay. No further contact was made by Bonaduce once he removed the threat. Yeah, he walked away like he was some kind of warrior god who KO's people with a single move. It smacked of too much testosterone... maybe he is still juicing?

Bonaduce has probably taken fighting classes and surely has more training in all things physical than Fairplay. The reaction to being baby-koalaed and humped could have been instinctual based upon that training.

Hmmm... a defense combination against being dry humped being taught in martial arts... never heard of it... it doesn't exist.

That he simply hoists Fairplay over his head and steps out of the situation suggests an instinctual reaction to get out of the situation rather than the desire to physically fight with Fairplay. That is an understatement. Maybe so, but it doesn't explain Danny's desire to do damage to Johnny, you don't need to fight someone in order to damage them. Martial arts training keeps people off of you in the first place, clearly Danny needs more training! lol!!!!

In the position in which Fairplay was wrapped around Bonaduce, the up and over technique was probably the quickest, easiest, and most succinct manner in which to end the altercation. It was not an altercation until he was dumped on the floor sister... Bonaduce's lack of aggression once the physical contact was terminated does not suggest maintained malice and intent to cause bodily harm. It shows that he was acting within the confines of self defense and acted out of the instinct to remove himself from a situation in which he felt threatened.

It shows that he is a smug and pathetic man... who likes to strut around like a peacock.


...enough legalese for ya?

Did I deserve that snide comment from you? I choose not to answer your question for fear of irritating you further...
 

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I didn't mean it to be snide, but I can see how it probably came out that way and I'm sorry about that.

It wasn't my intention to be a cuntface, but instead to get all Johnny Cochran on the situation and show how Bonaduce's lawyers could (and probably will if it comes to that) argue their client out of an assault charge. Unfortunately, Johnny Cochran was kinda a cuntface and so in taking on that manner of thinking, I also became one.

Can those arguments be further dissected? Oh, absolutely. But as Fairplay made the first physical contact, I think he'd be hard pressed to get a criminal assault judgement against Bonaduce. I think he could get a civil, monetary judgement against him for the cost of the dental work, but I also think Bonaduce's lawyers could argue to get that reduced as well.

I don't have any legal training other than reading a few LSAT books and taking the test. There's a certain manner of arguing that a defense attorney needs to have to argue through things like this and if I can do it without training, I think it would be a cakewalk for a seasoned professional.
 

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Also, Danny could claim that he felt he was being sexually assaulted by the 'humping motion'...

That would be actually described as a lewd antic... hardly a cause for getting your teeth knocked out...

You guys can hypothesize about Danny's SHAKY defense, but it can be fought and defeated with very little effort.

It is all about who committed the violent act and Danny is guilty

It's just like when you get in a traffic accident... if you actually HIT someone, you can go on and on to the cop about how you didn't see him coming, that the light was in your eyes, or that he pulled out in front of you... but if the person you hit did nothing illegal, then you will be at fault and responsible for all of the damages.

Johnny did NOTHING illegal
 

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Many of us know people who were in reality shows. I know a member of one of the original "Survivor" casts very well. If she were allowed to tell the truth about how much of that stuff is scripted, it would disappoint a lot of reality show fans.
I miss "Family" that PBS ran in the 1970s.
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tripod... Are you fucking Johnny or something??? You made your point already, give it a rest!

Actually... are you all fucking Danny Bonaduce?

Every time someone comes up and says that he deserved to have his teeth knocked out because of a stupid and lewd on-stage antic, makes me want to fucking SCREAM!!!!! You people have barbaric forms of justice and an almost disabled moral code. You all need some enlightenment...
 

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Not that I'm condoning Fairplay's performance, but there's some footage we don't see that basically shows Bonaduce walking on stage uninvited and interrupting his "comedy." If it's really killing the audience, then the producers would cut to commercial while they go on stage and escort him off. That's not the red guy's place.
 

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Actually... are you all fucking Danny Bonaduce?

Every time someone comes up and says that he deserved to have his teeth knocked out because of a stupid and lewd on-stage antic, makes me want to fucking SCREAM!!!!! You people have barbaric forms of justice and an almost disabled moral code. You all need some enlightenment...

When you're done with the blanket statements and gross generalizations, give us ALL a call and we'll talk. :rolleyes:
 

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Both of these guys are cumrags. I despise both of them.

Fairplay shouldn't have dry humped Banaduce. Bonaduce shouldn't have tried to throw Fairplay over his shoulder.

If Fairplay lost some teeth then I'm sure it was an accident; The cause could be disputed in court. I'd be interested in knowing the outcome of a lawsuit, or if charges will be filed.
 
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When you're done with the blanket statements and gross generalizations, give us ALL a call and we'll talk. :rolleyes:

Yeah... I was a little emotional when I wrote that, I didn't mean to lump everyone together.

I just followed that "Breaking Bonaduce" program a bit last year and was exposed to Danny's pathetic temper tantrums and developed quite a disdain for him. I have never seen anything about that Johnny guy except for that youtube link and then seeing him crash to the ground in DJG's link... I should have checked out this idiot's "work" in the reality TV world and I might not have wanted to defend him and take his side.

The thing is... I actually have EXPLOSIVE ANGER DISORDER and can spot a faker from a mile away... Danny actually consciously revs himself up and is really "acting" during these episodes... he thinks it gives him some kind of power and inspires fear in others, he is an idiot and fights like a girl!!!!!!

He actually pre-meditated hurling Johnny through the air before he did it... he thought it would make him look tough on national television.

It wasn't a knee-jerk reaction to someone invading his personal space or his instinctual reaction to being dry humped either...

It was a desperate attempt at looking like "the man"

And it was ENTIRELY at Johnny's expense.

That is why Danny is soooo in the wrong!!!!!!

Sorry to "all you people" except for the barbarians... you know who you are! lol!!!!!
 

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Unless you're in considerable danger (and no man-child humping would qualify, I'm sure), there are a lot more composed ways to handle unwanted attention. Like, "get off me!" or pushing away outward. There was just enough pause there to show consideration. Hell, Jackie Chan does the serious tossing people around shit; of course, he's got six guys trying to barrel him over at once.

I just don't figure how someone could pull off a wrestling move / suplex type manuever as a knee-jerk. Highly trained muscle heads couldn't pull off such fluidity.