The survival element has been almost totally eliminated. Out of camera range they definitely have toilets, and I'm sure there is fresh water and supplementary food available. Everything you see and hear involves video and sound crews standing right there, and they'd require complete facilities. Everyone seems to have clean clothes, and the men rarely display a VPL. Like Big Brother, the first year or two gave us some sense of "reality", but now it is heavily staged and scripted. Just another interesting concept that has been spoiled.
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I think you're right. I love Survivor, but the best game show on TV is The Amazing Race.
Hopefully one day, they will have "the making of survivor" where they expose exactly how it is made. Can't wait to see makeup people applying mud in the right places on the actors to ensure continuity for scenes that are shot on multiple days 
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I know someone who was on Survivor a few seasons ago and she said it was as tough as it looks. She had me convinced that it was the real deal. Now that was a few years ago and maybe some things changed. I still think it is a tough show to do. And to the person who said Amazing Race was the best, I totally agree.
The actors on Survivor sign very strict non disclosure contracts. They can't reveal any of the smoke/mirrors tricks used by producers and how certain aspects are staged. So it is quite possible that she told you a canned answer for this question instead of revealing what really happens.
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As the seasons have worn on I've become incredibly cynical about Survivor, so much so that my wife orders me out of the room when she and various guests are watching. Is it so bad to point out that the contestants have a staggering array of "jungle chic" outfits and go to tribal counsel? And how can they look so just-showered fresh with professional hair and make-up? Lastly, how can a bunch of stranded contestants have such vast wardrobes?
As for accommodations and food, I think the show has evolved from the days of Australian Outback to the point there is probably a luxury resort just out of camera range where everybody sleeps and dines. The present contestants don't seem to lose tremendous amounts of weight they way they once did.
In my opinion every aspect of the show is scripted and thoroughly vetted by a panel at CBS. A visible penis line in a water-logged brief is probably discussed and dissected all the way up the CBS food-chain before it ever appears on-air as a pixilated blur. Gays and contestants who are physically challenged have always been a big part of the equation as are the predicable responses on the show: "What?! You only have one leg? Why none of us even noticed!" Even as the contestant regularly takes off the prosthetic to clean sand out of the cuff and uses it to conveniently wack fruit off of low hanging trees.
They phoniest part of Survivor has always been the reward and immunity challenges, where the producers have dreamed up the most implausible ways for weak contestants to continue.
On the other hand count me as an Amazing Race fan. Too bad they'll never have another team that approaches the frat brothers, Kevin and Drew.
I actually completely disagree. This season which is only half over so far, the contestants look horribly emaciated. Take a look at NaOnka, Sash and Fabio from the beginning to now and see how much weight it looks like they've lost. Also, they are constantly in the same outfits with the exception of their buffs which the girls often convert to shirts or skirts, so I'm not sure where the "vast wardrobes" are being seen? They are clearly short on even little things like socks which were fought over earlier in the season.
It has been a while now since they have spoken of lack of food or water.
The early seasons would have the actors dropped on the island with only what they were wearing. Now, they don't really mention this and I read some tidbit once that they are now given a list of items/clothing they are allowed to bring and not allowed.
once the producers decided to focus on the social aspects of the gane (the alliances etc), then the survival aspect takes a second seat.
This was summed up well in the past 2 seasons when Probts ended up telling the short/fat annoying guy that the goal of the game wasn't to make it to final tribal council, but to convince the jury to vote for you as the winner.
The early seasons would have the actors dropped on the island with only what they were wearing. Now, they don't really mention this and I read some tidbit once that they are now given a list of items/clothing they are allowed to bring and not allowed.
once the producers decided to focus on the social aspects of the gane (the alliances etc), then the survival aspect takes a second seat.
This was summed up well in the past 2 seasons when Probts ended up telling the short/fat annoying guy that the goal of the game wasn't to make it to final tribal council, but to convince the jury to vote for you as the winner.
Perhaps I need my glasses changed, but I haven't noticed "horrible emaciation". Most contestants do lose a few pounds, but I don't think that nutrition is a problem in recent years. When there is a shortage of some necessity it's only for one episode and then it's forgotten. Their wardrobes may not be "vast", but new articles of clothing do crop up from time to time despite the efforts of the continuity editors.
With social alliances now the focus of the program, one has to remember that all those "private" chats we see are attended by a video and sound crew, so they have to be scripted. With most of the original premise gone, even the most gullible must be finding it hard to maintain the illusion that the show promotes. Still, it's fun to look at a few nice bodies.
With social alliances now the focus of the program, one has to remember that all those "private" chats we see are attended by a video and sound crew, so they have to be scripted. With most of the original premise gone, even the most gullible must be finding it hard to maintain the illusion that the show promotes. Still, it's fun to look at a few nice bodies.
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O.K. perhaps vast wardrobe is a slight hyperbole. I didn't mean it in the definition of Paris Hilton on a shopping orgy on Rodeo Drive, but go over some past seasons and you'll find yourself asking "Wait, where did they get that item of clothing?" Also with HD TV it's fairly obvious women have gone through hair and make-up prior to tribal counsel.
I don't think that conversations are scripted. I think producers give a couple of actors a role (like that nasty short/fat guys from 1+2 seasons ago) and they obviously choose the actors to fit a certain profile they want for the show.
Some of the stuff is genuine, some isn't. What I am unsure of is how much the producters have control over the order with which actors are eliminated.
Some of the stuff is genuine, some isn't. What I am unsure of is how much the producters have control over the order with which actors are eliminated.
I'm sure that some contestants are selected to fill certain roles and are coached during the series. Perhaps the conversations aren't scripted word-for-word, but the gist of the exchange may have been predetermined. The producers also play with the sequence of events, with some bits taped later on to fill in.
Many of us are voyeurs at heart, and we like to watch people "being real". Pity that this show has eliminated most of that.
Many of us are voyeurs at heart, and we like to watch people "being real". Pity that this show has eliminated most of that.
If they spend 39 days there, and the group has a dozen healthy young males, it is a given that none of them would be able to survive that long without masturbation.
It would be interesting to see how they accomodate this. I assume cameras are off limits (or perhaps not, and the footage will be recycled as porn later on
Would also be fund to know how males in a group talk about it. (or even if they might j/o together, or get "caught" while pleasuring themselves.
It would be interesting to see how they accomodate this. I assume cameras are off limits (or perhaps not, and the footage will be recycled as porn later on
Would also be fund to know how males in a group talk about it. (or even if they might j/o together, or get "caught" while pleasuring themselves.
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Off topic, but I thought some might enjoy it. Gives you a glimpse into reality programming in the rest of the world and shows just how open to anything they are. Nudity is okay. Caught jacking off on camera? No problem. Morning wood? Let it flex.
Some good videos in the forum: T&A Rules, you know it! • View forum - Big Brother multimedia guys and the original site: > T&A <
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There is a lot to like about Benry & whether he acknowledges it or even knows it yet himself, this club-promoter sets off bi-dar detectors big time, (which is a very good thing) :smile::
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Sorry to rescusitate this. Noticed something interesting in last night's episode.
Purple Kelly was in a bikini, freezing he butt off in the cold rain. Next to her, Chase was all dressed up with shirt and full length pants. Did she not bring any semi warm clothes for this trip ? Or was this whole scene staged because producers had decided they need to get rid of 2 people this week ?
Neanka's (the black lady) departure is even stranger since she absolutely didn't appear to be someone able to quit so easily. It isn't as if this was the first time there was rain.
Still think Chase is a hottie (despite his brain). Hottie in terms of athlete and very masculine/healthy proportions. Benry is also nice looking, but in a very different way. Sort of a cute guy next door type.
Sash doesn't do anything to me. Wouldn't surprise me if he were uncut. (a first name of Sasha evokes european born or european parents, incresing odds of presence of foreksin)
Purple Kelly was in a bikini, freezing he butt off in the cold rain. Next to her, Chase was all dressed up with shirt and full length pants. Did she not bring any semi warm clothes for this trip ? Or was this whole scene staged because producers had decided they need to get rid of 2 people this week ?
Neanka's (the black lady) departure is even stranger since she absolutely didn't appear to be someone able to quit so easily. It isn't as if this was the first time there was rain.
Still think Chase is a hottie (despite his brain). Hottie in terms of athlete and very masculine/healthy proportions. Benry is also nice looking, but in a very different way. Sort of a cute guy next door type.
Sash doesn't do anything to me. Wouldn't surprise me if he were uncut. (a first name of Sasha evokes european born or european parents, incresing odds of presence of foreksin)
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The producers didn't want to do anything, contrary to popular belief Survivor producers barely affect the game once its started. Purple Kelly and Na'onka quit because they mentally checkout and Na'onka has even said in interviews nobody should judge her unless they've won. Physically the two could've continued but mentally they couldn't. Which is pretty sad considering some people have played Survivor 3 times, making it far in all 3, and never thought of quitting
In the case of purple kelly, didn't she have warmer clothes ?
For neonka, I find it rather odd that the editors/producers didn't provice any hint of her deciding to leave before it.
And more importantly, she was not only in the winning team in the challenge, but she performed well. You'd think that the adrenaline and the feeling of winning would hace caused her to not announce she was leaving. It seemed rather odd.
I don't think quitters should go to the jury. They should hsve used 2 previously voted out contestants/actors.
In the case of naonka, I think she realised she had no chance of winning and figured there was no point in continuing the hardship. Then again, she should have just arranges to get strategically voted out.
For neonka, I find it rather odd that the editors/producers didn't provice any hint of her deciding to leave before it.
And more importantly, she was not only in the winning team in the challenge, but she performed well. You'd think that the adrenaline and the feeling of winning would hace caused her to not announce she was leaving. It seemed rather odd.
I don't think quitters should go to the jury. They should hsve used 2 previously voted out contestants/actors.
In the case of naonka, I think she realised she had no chance of winning and figured there was no point in continuing the hardship. Then again, she should have just arranges to get strategically voted out.
