"Take Over Mov't" 99% support or no

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  1. Frnkd213

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    Are you a supporter of the "99 percent" movt. and have taken part? I am for the simple reason of fairness in the part of the 1% who does not pay their fair share of the use of the infrastructure and services and beneft (ss and Medicare) that they use. I know that this is an American issue but am curious what non-Americans think.
     
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    For it. Support it. There's no reason in heaven or hell that the CEO of Bank of 'Mericuh deserves the millions in annual salary and bonuses that should be plowed into the savings and CDs of BOA's clients with saving accounts.
     
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    Why dont you just move to France or Spain where your ideas are lived out instead of trying to turn this Country into one that it escaped form 250 years ago?
     
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    As a non-American it is kinda hard to take part! (Except that it was a Canadian idea. :)

    I don't blame them one damn bit for being pissed off at their political and business "leaders" who "lead" them straight into the economic toilet. Or for expecting the financial wizards on Wall St to be held accountable instead of rewarded with huge bonuses for their incompetent or perhaps even criminal actions.


    Herman Cain and Eric Cantor both need a kick in the pants IMO.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    It's a gimmick.

    A) it won't work. The very rich are the specialists at hiding their income and wealth. After a certain point they are just not taxable.
    B) the concept of fairness is not useful when looking at wages. Most are set by markets which are forces of nature - they are amoral. Almost every wage I see appears unfairly high or low - wages are not fair and cannot be fair. Of course the USSR tried to make them fair. And I understand North Korea has made good progress.

    Social justice does mean that nations must look after their poor. This much is fair. But a campaign against the top 1% of earners will achieve nothing and is in every way pointless.
     
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    The very rich in this country became that way in part because of greatly reduced tax rates over the past several decades.

    If a lower rate has helped them amass so much wealth, surely a higher rate will make them give some of it up.
     
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    I dont know what you think europe is like now, but I can assure you it is nothing like it was 250 years ago. We have electricity now! Elections, too. Have they got elected leaders in the US who do what voters want them to do yet?
     
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    And why don't you move to Somalia? No government whatsoever.

    REGULATION VACATION CELEBRATION!
     
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    You do know that MLB resides partially in Barcelona, which is in Spain, right?
     
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    Don't support it.
     
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    Dear child,

    Not only are you poorly educated, but your mother dresses you funny. I recall back in the good old days (1950s) children like you were simply given a strong laxative to keep you preoccupied until old enough to engage in conversation with the adults. I understand they still make Milk of Magnesia.

    Best wishes with your simple, uncluttered mind. :smile:

    MLB
     
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    Funny, an older human that can accept responsibility would be an adult. I don't see any of that in the protesters.
     
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    I am not from another country, although some think that California is definitely in its own realm. I certainly support the 99% movement because I am part of it by definition. I think the country should begin to tax corporations at the rates that existed in the 1950s and 60s. It would bring some balance to the whole economic system.
     
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    Cali sure is far out there:tongue:.

    Golly, what's that saying most parents told their kids when they didn't get something? "Life isn't fair" or something like that? Sounds like many of the protesters haven't matured past the age of 8 or so.
     
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    Every society has a tipping point. I don't think America is there yet, though.
     
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    You're right but the clock is ticking.


    Bingo. The plutocrats have come a long way and would be loath to have 30 years of indoctrination undone. But alas the natives are going to storm the castles soon the obscene disparities in wealth will end. The last gilded age didn't end well and this one won't either.
     
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    Maturity is not just taking responsibility for your own well being. Real maturity is taking a share of responsibility for society as a whole, working to improve the conditions of others besides yourself.

    Yes, life isn't fair. But without the ongoing effort to make it a little less unfair, humans would never have had laws or any kind of governance in the first place. Unless you're willing to embrace total anarchy, "life isn't fair" is no excuse from attempting to make life better.
     
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    Unfortunately, these guys ain't making life better for anyone. The city of New York wanted to move in and clean up the park, protesters wouldn't move. Can't imagine what this will cost to clean up either.
     
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    Well, if you think the point of these demonstrations is park cleanup, you haven't been paying very close attention.
     
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