Tanning = ugly!

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

i don't check my pulse when running because im a man. i sometimes don't wear sun screen at the beach cause im lazy. being lazy is also part of being a man

 

[OCMuscleJock]

i don't check my pulse when running because im a man. i sometimes don't wear sun screen at the beach cause im lazy. being lazy is also part of being a man

hahahaha!!I APPROVE of this response!

 

[FRE]

Oh, come on! Since when is wearing sunscreen and checking your pulse when you run being a hypochondriac? How else will you know if you're in the cardio zone or the fat burning zone?

Is wearing your seatbelt being overly cautious, too?

Should no one bother to quit smoking because something else is also could also kill you? Your reasoning makes no sense.

FuzzyKen has TWO parents who have died from skin cancer. That's more than enough reason to be extremely cautious! He's doing what he needs to do to live a long happy life, even if that means putting a little cream on his face every day. Making that out to be excessive is insane! How many people use wrinkle or acne creams? You probably wouldn't criticize that. Surely vanity is less important than his life.

I'm wondering whether you read the last sentence in my post. One can be cautious without being obsessive. My father was a confirmed hypochondriac and I am not about to follow his example.

As for running, I must have been doing something right since I got my resting pulse rate down to 42. When running, it is possible to know whether you are really working or being lazy. After seeing the NMR scan of my back, I stopped running but ride a bicycle, including hard intervals. If during intervals I push myself to the extent that it becomes totally impossible to maintain my speed, obviously I am pushing myself sufficiently hard.

 

[petite]

I'm wondering whether you read the last sentence in my post. One can be cautious without being obsessive. My father was a confirmed hypochondriac and I am not about to follow his example.

As for running, I must have been doing something right since I got my resting pulse rate down to 42. When running, it is possible to know whether you are really working or being lazy. After seeing the NMR scan of my back, I stopped running but ride a bicycle, including hard intervals. If during intervals I push myself to the extent that it becomes totally impossible to maintain my speed, obviously I am pushing myself sufficiently hard.

You would probably consider the people on both sides of my family to be excessively cautious because we do a lot more to protect our health than the examples you gave! None of my family members are hypochondriacs, though, so I've learned from their examples that trying to live a healthy life is just a normal thing that adults do, without any negative connotations there.

I understand that you don't want to be a hypochondriac because you don't want to make the mistakes your father made, but your examples of hypochondriac behavior aren't typically considered to be so. One would have to be convinced that one has diseases that one does not have. Protecting oneself from known and common dangers, especially if one has a genetic proclivity for a particular disease is just being responsible towards one's own future.

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

I get a little tanned every year from being out on the water or just going shirtless, but have never been able to just lay on the beach tanning. Is there a more boring thing to do?

See I'm the opposite, I can lay under a parasol, in complete shade, covered head to toe in sunblock for eight hours doing absolutely fuck all with pleasure, because I love the heat, the beach and doing nothing. What I can't do is walk around in the sun with no shirt on because I burn in five seconds and turn lobster coloured. I've had some horrific burns over the years from accidental exposure. A couple of years ago on holiday in Greece, I got burned on my thighs and calves so badly I actually couldn't walk for four days. My legs were covered in huge blisters like I'd poured boiling liquid down them or something. That was from ten or fifteen minutes of sunlight reflected off the sea at sunset. :frown1:

 

[FRE]

Petite,

I think that you can see from some of my photos that I have succeeded in keeping myself in good condition. It's a matter of diet, exercise, and self-discipline. However, that can be carried to unnecessary extremes.

Although my father was a hypochondriac, he never learned how to manage his own health; he saw that as the responsibility of the medical profession. He didn't even know what to do if he got a leg cramp, which he did once in the hospital. He was going to ring for the nurse. I immediately lifted the covers at the foot of his bed and relieved the cramp simply by pushing on the forward (toe) portion of his foot; he was surprised to find that relieving a cramp was so easy and did not require medical intervention.

He was constantly taking laxatives which I'm sure were not necessary. He never learned how to manage his back problems, which, though legitimate, could most likely have been dealt with quite well simply with exercise and stretching. And so it went.

It is possible to eat properly and get adequate exercise without constantly constantly using a stop watch, scales, etc. etc; I do, and highly recommend it.

 

[petite]

Fre, I don't doubt that it's possible, I never said that you needed to use those things.

I did see your photos, you look very good!

And you seem to be very experienced at running. You may not need a stopwatch or to take your pulse.

That doesn't mean that someone else is wrong for using a scale, a stopwatch, or checking their pulse while running, or being cautious about wearing sunscreen. Not everyone has to do everything the way that you do it.

 

[FRE]

Fre, I don't doubt that it's possible, I never said that you needed to use those things.

I did see your photos, you look very good!

And you seem to be very experienced at running. You may not need a stopwatch or to take your pulse.

That doesn't mean that someone else is wrong for using a scale, a stopwatch, or checking their pulse while running, or being cautious about wearing sunscreen. Not everyone has to do everything the way that you do it.

So I look fairly good for a 72 year old man. Thank you.

Quite so, but some people were very insistent that I had to use a stop watch. Some people insist that I have to do everything the way they do.

Last fall, after returning home from a very hard bicycle ride, I checked my pulse and noticed that it was irregular. Although I saw no reason to panic, I did feel that it would be prudent to have it checked. When I called for an appointment, I was told that I'd have to wait two months; that's typical around here. However, they said that if I called the nurses' line and they felt that it was urgent, I could get an appointment almost immediately. So, I called the nurses' line and the nurse went almost into a state of panic, stating that I was about to have a heart attack. She barely stopped short of saying that I should lie flat on my back in bed until I was examined. Of course I realized that she was greatly over-reacting, but I was able to get an appointment because of her panic. I was fitted with a battery-operated portable ecg then proceeded to do hard intervals on my bicycle, running myself deeply into oxygen debt several times. The cardiologist examined the results and saw no reason for concern. He said that many people have a few anomalies which are best ignored.

So, although I do believe in being sensible, I do not believe in panicking every time I experience something slightly different or have minor aches and pains.

 

[Viking_UK]

I'm one of the lucky blondes who does take a tan, but I try not to overdo it. My other half likes nothing more than to lie baking on a beach for hours on end, and I do that with him from time to time, but when I do, I'm slathered top to toe in sunblock.

If I remember rightly, on average, about 20 minutes of sunlight on an area of skin the size of your face is usually enough to give you your daily dose of vitamin D, and that doesn't allow for any contained in your diet. The lighter your skin, the more vitamin D you actually produce, so pasty white people need less time in the sun than darker-skinned people to produce the same amount of vitamin D.

 

[HiddenLacey]

Fre, I don't doubt that it's possible, I never said that you needed to use those things.

I did see your photos, you look very good!

And you seem to be very experienced at running. You may not need a stopwatch or to take your pulse.

That doesn't mean that someone else is wrong for using a scale, a stopwatch, or checking their pulse while running, or being cautious about wearing sunscreen. Not everyone has to do everything the way that you do it.

I actually use a Mio heart rate monitor watch when I'm on my treadmill or if I'm walking or jogging outside. I like to know where I am, otherwise I'll slack off. But I'm not going to freak if I forget it. No big deal. I think being health conscious is a good thing, saying I'm never going to eat anything bad or sit in the sun without sunblock is just obsessive. I think we should all try to take care of ourselves.

 

[BiItalianBro]

i don't check my pulse when running because im a man. i sometimes don't wear sun screen at the beach cause im lazy. being lazy is also part of being a man

WOW....a Quote for the Ages if I ever saw one :biggrin1: i love it

 

[D_Harvey Schmeckel]

I am satisfied with the color of my face and arms 2/3 of the year. Spending a fair amount of outdoor time March-November even with plenty of sunscreen gives just enough of a healthy glow. But through the winter months I increasingly take on what seems to me an unhealthy pallor all over. And the springtime face/arms tan only becomes an approximate allover tan with summer swimming season. That just looks better than the two-toned look that I'm now trying to get rid of, but I admit it's vanity to pursue. Skin cancer is unknown in both parents' families and shows up as a lower than average risk in DNA testing, which makes me feel better about getting into and on the water a lot in summer.

 

[SilverTrain]

I agree that accepting a cancer risk in order to look more attractive for a short period of time is what is most disturbing. Sun damage is the most like smoking, since with both you're increasing your risk for a certain type of cancer.

I am lucky that pale skin seems to look good on me. At least I think so. And I only fake bake for beach photos. It doesn't look bad IRL, at least no one I went on vacation with last time mentioned it, and I was with a few people who would have if it looked bad! (TheBF just now, "Oh god they would have ripped on us if we looked bad! They would have made fun of us the entire trip!" when I asked him if he thought someone would have said anything about the fake bake if it looked unattractive.) :redface:

You can't tell at all in photos that it's fake bake and I like that, having the fun pictures to remind me of good memories without cringing when I look at them because I look so pale! :smile:

I'd better have a look at the photos, just to be certain.

:wink:

xx

 

[petite]

So, although I do believe in being sensible, I do not believe in panicking every time I experience something slightly different or have minor aches and pains.

I think that's a healthy attitude. :smile:

BTW, I wanted to comment on taking supplements. You are right, there are concerns about absorption rates of supplements. Luckily, Vitamin D is one of those nutrients with a high toxicity limit (unlike Vitamin A). Recommended daily intake is 200 IU and it does not become toxic unless one consumes over 50,000 IU per day. I resolve that issue by supplementing my diet with 1,000 IU of Vitamin D, in case of low absorption rates, in addition to getting dietary sources. All my bases are covered!

I actually use a Mio heart rate monitor watch when I'm on my treadmill or if I'm walking or jogging outside. I like to know where I am, otherwise I'll slack off. But I'm not going to freak if I forget it. No big deal. I think being health conscious is a good thing, saying I'm never going to eat anything bad or sit in the sun without sunblock is just obsessive. I think we should all try to take care of ourselves.

So true, it does help so much with making sure that you don't slack. Today at the gym I was slacking so much! I barely got a workout. I did a lot of abs work, though. :redface:

I really need to start using mine again, but I need a new chest strap. Either that I need to get one of those wrist ones. I'm supposed to control my heartrate when I'm exercising, lest I deprive the little tadpole of oxygen!

I actually wear sunscreen every day. It's in the makeup I wear, so I don't really have a choice, but I also wear sunscreen on my neck, too. I think the idea that daily sunscreen wear is excessive is a Caucasian one. It's common in East Asia and isn't considered unusual at all. A lot of East Asian women do it.

I'd better have a look at the photos, just to be certain.

:wink:

xx

:tongue: If I showed them to anyone here, it'd be you!

 

[HiddenLacey]

So true, it does help so much with making sure that you don't slack. Today at the gym I was slacking so much! I barely got a workout. I did a lot of abs work, though. :redface:

I really need to start using mine again, but I need a new chest strap. Either that I need to get one of those wrist ones. I'm supposed to control my heartrate when I'm exercising, lest I deprive the little tadpole of oxygen!

I actually wear sunscreen every day. It's in the makeup I wear, so I don't really have a choice, but I also wear sunscreen on my neck, too. I think the idea that daily sunscreen wear is excessive is a Caucasian one. It's common in East Asia and isn't considered unusual at all. A lot of East Asian women do it.

Look at the MIO watches I got one in pink Off ebay brand new cause they are expensive on Mio's site, but I love love it:wink: All you do is hold the button on the side to check your HR. I don't wear makeup on my face, it makes my face feel dirty (i know weirdness) but if I'm going outside for along time I wear sunblock or a hat if I'm doing the yardwork.

 

[B_theOtherJJ]

I think most people look better with a healthy sun-glow, and I LOVE tan lines....Makes it easier to find guys in back-rooms

 

[SilverTrain]

:tongue: If I showed them to anyone here, it'd be you!

This will sustain me for a good while. :smile:

Cheerio, Poquita