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First of all, you really need to look up the definition of "unhinged".
Secondly, shut up already
Third...

Clearly sir, you care or else you wouldn't still be talking about it.
Fourth. Shut up again.
Fifth and finally, please let it go and move on with your life.

yasssss pop off. You really got me. Calm down, it’s an LPSG thread, we’re allowed to post our thoughts. It’s really not that serious. I said “who cares” bc ultimately it’s all nonsense that doesn’t matter either way. You all defending them to the death would be good to move on as well lol
 

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Now girls, we're all getting our knickers in a bunch over two folks who don't give a rats ass! They're as staged as a Sunday afternoon real estate open house! The point is, they're hyping the reality beyond belief, setting themselves up for nitpicking criticism. Remember the bill of goods we were sold with Bob Paris and Rod Jackson. Perhaps a real relationship, at the very least, ruined by the hype and limelight. Guys, for the sake of the relationship, tone it down!
 
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I wonder how many of them would be complaining if he was offering a view of his and Jeff's wedding night on OF? I bet there wouldn't be a single objection.
Oh please! If we wanted vanilla we'd suck the creme out of a filled donut!
 

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I’d LOVE to know how many people actually by his #ad clothing he posts about and buys all the stuff that pays him. Sure, he’s got a ton of followers but what’s the rentention rate. Can’t imagine these companies send him this stuff and only get 5 people to buy it. But maybe they do. I don’t know much about that stuff
 

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I’d LOVE to know how many people actually by his #ad clothing he posts about and buys all the stuff that pays him. Sure, he’s got a ton of followers but what’s the rentention rate. Can’t imagine these companies send him this stuff and only get 5 people to buy it. But maybe they do. I don’t know much about that stuff
Here's a test! Can you remember any of the product advertised regularly or related to the wedding/honeymoon!? Of course, for the price of those products, only one or two people actually have to make a purchase.
 

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I’d LOVE to know how many people actually by his #ad clothing he posts about and buys all the stuff that pays him. Sure, he’s got a ton of followers but what’s the rentention rate. Can’t imagine these companies send him this stuff and only get 5 people to buy it. But maybe they do. I don’t know much about that stuff

I honestly don’t think they make that much money from all these sources. Their Patreon starts at $10 and they only have 100 subscribers. That’s $1000 at a minimum. It’s not like they have a million followers either where they are getting serious ad money. We might be blowing this all to proportion.

We only see what the camera sees and how they choose to show their lives. I don’t know what they do for a living outside of being an influencer, but they can’t be living as lavish of a lifestyle as it appears.
 

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I honestly don’t think they make that much money from all these sources. Their Patreon starts at $10 and they only have 100 subscribers. That’s $1000 at a minimum. It’s not like they have a million followers either where they are getting serious ad money. We might be blowing this all to proportion.

We only see what the camera sees and how they choose to show their lives. I don’t know what they do for a living outside of being an influencer, but they can’t be living as lavish of a lifestyle as it appears.

I did a few minutes of creeper research when they first bought their house and they bought it for $400k. meaning each partner prob pays around $1,000/month for the mortgage. Maybe they spent $80-120k to update the house, which they can eventually roll that into a refi (maybe jeff's parents helped with the cash needed for the remodel - wouldn't be surprised).

Either way, they don't need to be particularly wealthy to live well where they live in Bellport. Someone making $50-60k/year could theoretically pay for their mortgage.

I wish a starter house in my city didn't cost $1.4M for a fixer... it amazes me what people can buy in other parts of the country.
 

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I honestly don’t think they make that much money from all these sources. Their Patreon starts at $10 and they only have 100 subscribers. That’s $1000 at a minimum. It’s not like they have a million followers either where they are getting serious ad money. We might be blowing this all to proportion.

We only see what the camera sees and how they choose to show their lives. I don’t know what they do for a living outside of being an influencer, but they can’t be living as lavish of a lifestyle as it appears.

They've openly said on their livestreams that they don't make that much off of YouTube and as you said, they probably make enough off of Patreon to pay a chunk of their monthly mortgage payments. They also have regular day jobs (in Taylor's case, his real estate job gives him a more flexible schedule like his modeling did, but Jeff has a full-time tech job that they've mentioned both in normal videos and live ones) so whatever money their influencing brings them is just extra and probably helped with paying for a down payment and whatever wedding expenses weren't comped without having to use up their normal income (or at least helped reimburse whatever portion of their savings they did spend on those things).
 

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the mechanics of influencing amaze me.

i have around 20k followers on instagram (for travel/landscape photography), nothing freaky y'all. As a result I am friendly with a few 100-300k instagrammers in my area/sphere of interest and am privvy to some of their stats - quite often they are getting less eyeballs on posts or stories than i do on mine, but because of the size of their follow count they can command $1000-$2000 for a 2-3 post assignment, not including whatever gifts, goods or hospitality come with the gig. That's definitely small change compared to some, but not bad at all as a sidegig that they don't declare as income... what i don't understand though is how the fuck brands are actually able to monetise anything from that, especially when as i say, the engagement is quite often minimal. a few in the group also quite clearly use bots to buy/source new followers, which hollows their engagement out even more - but companies, even with supposedly savvy social media teams, don't seem to notice or much care.

i even put out a brand post from a large company, the post i made ended up with 30k views, 2k likes... and 50 clicks for the actual affiliate product. i imagine almost none of those 50 even bought the service provided and even if they did, the profit that would lead to would have been cancelled out by my own modest fee. i increasingly think that most businesses have a social/influencer marketing budget they consider a write off and just hope to god something they throw out into the void sticks!
 

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the mechanics of influencing amaze me.

i have around 20k followers on instagram (for travel/landscape photography), nothing freaky y'all. As a result I am friendly with a few 100-300k instagrammers in my area/sphere of interest and am privvy to some of their stats - quite often they are getting less eyeballs on posts or stories than i do on mine, but because of the size of their follow count they can command $1000-$2000 for a 2-3 post assignment, not including whatever gifts, goods or hospitality come with the gig. That's definitely small change compared to some, but not bad at all as a sidegig that they don't declare as income... what i don't understand though is how the fuck brands are actually able to monetise anything from that, especially when as i say, the engagement is quite often minimal. a few in the group also quite clearly use bots to buy/source new followers, which hollows their engagement out even more - but companies, even with supposedly savvy social media teams, don't seem to notice or much care.

i even put out a brand post from a large company, the post i made ended up with 30k views, 2k likes... and 50 clicks for the actual affiliate product. i imagine almost none of those 50 even bought the service provided and even if they did, the profit that would lead to would have been cancelled out by my own modest fee. i increasingly think that most businesses have a social/influencer marketing budget they consider a write off and just hope to god something they throw out into the void sticks!
yes, the companies probably write off a good portion of their influencer marketing budget. they also probably calculate that some targeted buyers will not buy through the link but may go direct through the main website. i have done this.

I have definitely bought a few items after seeing a targeted ad on instagram. one of them being a landscape photography book... but that was the landscape photographer's own book she linked, so I don't know if that counts...
 

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They've openly said on their livestreams that they don't make that much off of YouTube and as you said, they probably make enough off of Patreon to pay a chunk of their monthly mortgage payments. They also have regular day jobs (in Taylor's case, his real estate job gives him a more flexible schedule like his modeling did, but Jeff has a full-time tech job that they've mentioned both in normal videos and live ones) so whatever money their influencing brings them is just extra and probably helped with paying for a down payment and whatever wedding expenses weren't comped without having to use up their normal income (or at least helped reimburse whatever portion of their savings they did spend on those things).
i dont think taylor has sold/rented a single house...
 

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yes, the companies probably write off a good portion of their influencer marketing budget. they also probably calculate that some targeted buyers will not buy through the link but may go direct through the main website. i have done this.

I have definitely bought a few items after seeing a targeted ad on instagram. one of them being a landscape photography book... but that was the landscape photographer's own book she linked, so I don't know if that counts...

i don't think i've ever bought a product or visited a hotel because of an advertorial instagrammer recommendation, because i trust almost none of their tastes or judgement especially when the captions are so obviously out a PR word bingo machine! it's more likely their non-sponsored genuine content that i find more appealing. ironically, it's probably the actual outright instagram feed ads where i've seen something of interest that i've purchased. i get that if you are very into a specific niche, especially wellness (shudder), then peer recommendations are a big thing. but for clothes, travel, food - generally i like to find my own way. shrug.
 

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It's curious he has removed any indication that he's a real estate agent on his IG and bio links. Too much of a real job for Taylor?
it's winter in bellport and it's probably seasonal where the vast majority of real estate sales happen in the summer. he may start advertising again in the spring.

sometimes it takes more than a pretty face to get a listing. prob too much effort.
 
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Anyone else find it a little distasteful that he’s living it up, celebrating his birthday, just a few days after his mother-in-law passed away? Just feels wrong to me for some reason
life goes on... but yes it shows how insincere he was in that long post saying goodbye to her. everything is only about likes for these guys. personally i would never share a post after a death, but that is me. i would share my grief with only people around me, that is it. but then again, these guys live only for likes, so would never miss an opportunity for more. i am not even sure that he would marry if he wasn't so concerned about that dreamy instagram image.