TEA PARTY - how to build a phony movement

[Industrialsize]

18 percent of Americans identify with the teaparty. not 18% of voters 18% of Americans. they have higher than average income 56% make more than $50,000 ,they're better educated 37% are college graduates and 58% have guns at home.

The reality is that if you truly believed this all just a joke you wouldn't even waste your breath on it.

18% ain't gonna win any elections.(you left out the part that they are overwhelmingly white, why do you think that is?)

 

[deleted15807]

Except there's one problem... The old white people who generally comprise the teabaggers are dying off faster than they can be replaced.

18% ain't gonna win any elections.(you left out the part that they are overwhelmingly white, why do you think that is?)

Diced and sliced:

Of the 18% of all adults who expressed support for the tea party, the overwhelming majority were white (89%), male (59%) Republicans over age 45 (75%) and significantly more affluent and better educated than the majority of Americans.

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These very Americans are going to be the ones soon relying on the biggest government programs of all, Social Security and Medicare. And will soon be yelling 'Keep government out of Medicare'.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

18 percent of Americans identify with the teaparty. not 18% of voters 18% of Americans. they have higher than average income 56% make more than $50,000 ,they're better educated 37% are college graduates and 58% have guns at home.

The reality is that if you truly believed this all just a joke you wouldn't even waste your breath on it.

18% of Americans polled said they "support" the teabaggers... The number of people who consider themselves actual "members" of the movement is smaller still.

Besides, these are the number relevant to my remarks...

89% are white
83% over the age of 41
57% over the age of 55

If you know anything at all about the population projections in this country, then you already know that these aren't the kind of numbers that can support a lasting political movement that actually wins enough elections to be relevant... Not even remotely close.

 

[HazelGod]

I responded to the title of this thread...what I found it and how it is representative of politics in general. It's now turned into an ugly rant...

It's impossible to have a positive and respectful discussion about politics.

It's not impossible...but around here, it's akin to ice-skating uphill.

You now understand why I have a sizable portion of the "regulars" of this forum (from both sides of the schism) on my ignore list.

 

[DaveUSADAV]

Moreover, the Tea-party (those baby boomers as old as I am, 59 or older) are total socialists. They want everything but don't want to pay for any of it. Many live on Medicare which is totally a socialist system. Those who are retired are living off their parents sweat through their parent's contributions to social security and pensions which was built by the previous generation. Totally socialist. And they don't want to give anything to their kids and grand-kids- which is what my taxes and my social security deductions are all about. Greedy socialists. It is they, these conservatives, who live in a dream world, as much a fantasy land as is Disneyland, or Las Vegas, or the porno movie trailers at this LPSG site- they are living fossils in this 21st century and are as indifferent to their kids real world and future as the dinosaurs were from theirs.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^Hammer, meet nail!

Thanks for the insight. Maybe your words don't apply to every tea bagging baby boomer, but they sure as heck apply to most of them in my region, and to the entire state to a slightly lesser degree. On top of the things you mentioned, I hear the baby boomers constantly harping on wanting to dismantle things like the public education system (including public colleges and universities), mass transit and healthcare programs for the working poor. Their motivation is 100% all about their desire to stop paying taxes for things they don't personally use, even if they used such things before and benefited from them.

 

[cruztbone]

The recent polling done by associated press identifies the teabaggers: they are white, male, married ,protestant, over 45, Republican and conservative. They are threatened by the sight of non-white, non-straight and non-male individuals as Americans in power.
TOO DAMN BAD ABOUT YOU GUYS!! YOU DONT OWN THIS COUNTRY AND SURE AS HELL DIDNT BUILD IT ALONE. get used to it.

 

[Trinity]

First it was fringe...now its a phoney movement. Amusing Obama...that kind of total disconnect is exactly why the Democrats are going to lose big...and then they won't be saying much of anything.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

First it was fringe...now its a phoney movement.

It has always been both things.

 

[Trinity]

It has always been both things.

when the Democrats suffer massive defeat thanks to the Tea Party, that won't be uttered again.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^lol... Exactly how are the Democrats going to lose anything on account of the teabaggers? The teabaggers have splintered off from the Republican caucus not the Dem's.

Sorry to break it to you, but 'divide and conquer' only applies when you divide your opponent not yourself.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Makes sure Trinsanity knows that if it needs more applicable adjectives to describe the Teahadists to let us know. I can think of a lot more than just one. :wink:

 

[maxcok]

First it was fringe...now its a phoney movement. Amusing Obama...that kind of total disconnect is exactly why the Democrats are going to lose big...and then they won't be saying much of anything.

Same old tired . . . > click < .........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlBqx4JKv1s

Rachel Maddow on GOP Thugishness....How To Fake A Protest: Right-Wing Media

Wingnuts disrupt Democratic congresswoman....Hard Ball - MSNBC - August 17,2009- Weapons

Tampa Town Hall On Health Care Reform....Bernie Sanders on AstroTurf Health Care

 

[Trinity]

^lol... Exactly how are the Democrats going to lose anything on account of the teabaggers? The teabaggers have splintered off from the Republican caucus not the Dem's.

Sorry to break it to you, but 'divide and conquer' only applies when you divide your opponent not yourself.

That's the spin they are telling you. Sorry.

The findings of the New York Times/CBS News Poll of Tea Party supporters augur well for the Republicans in November's midterm elections: the politically energized supra conservatives -- the one in five who are universally disaffected with national conditions, and with Barack Obama and with his policies -- are likely to be a strong advantage in the midterms, where typically fewer than four of 10 eligible citizens vote.
The boost that Tea Party supporters give Republican candidates may be especially decisive this year given how politically asleep the Democrats appear. In every poll the latter register as far less enthusiastic about voting than do Republicans generally, not to mention Tea Party adherents.

Pew Research, April 15,2010

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) warned that Democrats must match the Tea Party's energy and enthusiasm or face the consequences in November.


"At this point, I think the polls are showing that there is more enthusiasm with the tea party party," Boxer said before taking the stage at the California Democratic Party's convention in Los Angeles Saturday. "I think it is absolutely a fact that we have to match that enthusiasm."

The Hill.com, 4/17/10

 

[maxcok]

That's the spin they are telling you. Sorry.

Here's your spin baby. Oh damn, wonder why it won't spin?

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Here's your spin baby. Oh damn, wonder why it won't spin?

LOL!! :biggrin1:

 

[Industrialsize]

when the Democrats suffer massive defeat thanks to the Tea Party, that won't be uttered again.

18% of Americans say they are tea party supporters.
Polling the Tea Party - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

If it is only 18% then why is there practically a new thread daily on the subject. It speaks a lot about fear when people talk about it in a panic nonstop. I've yet to meet a teabagger. Maybe i just dont ask people about their political leaning because i really don't care. 18% doesn't sound accurate if you base it on the democratic response to it.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

That's the spin they are telling you. Sorry.

Ah yes... The teabaggers, having become disgruntled with an ineffective Republican Party that hasn't won an election in 6 years, splinter off and form their own voting bloc even further to the right than the Republican Party... But now according to our resident PUMA troll, they're all going to go running home to momma in November, and vote for the same kind of Republicans that pissed them off in the first place???

lol... The only thing that is going to happen in November is that hard right 3rd party candidates are going to garner more votes than they have in a generation, and the Republicans are going to under perform the media's 'projections'... Exactly like how they underperformed media projections in 2006 and 2008.

 

[n445]

I love how right wing americans panic at a whisper of socialism. Theres opposition to any policy that even resembles it they hit the streets and form a new party. Maybe its the propaganda that spews from the fox news network i don't know,or maybe just pure ignorance to other peoples plight. When i heard about obamas healthcare reform i thought americans would rejoice but not they complain because it is going to help the poor and not themselves. I am so glad i live in Great Britain.:biggrin1: