Ted Kennedy Diagnosed With Malignant Brain Tumor

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I don't think the Kopechne family is shedding a tear over the news.

Not likely...

To think his liver outlasted his brain. Amazing.

LMAO

It says something about how polarized the American political universe is, to see so many people saying poisonous things when they hear that the second longest serving American senator, still very much in the saddle, is probably fatally ill.
Like him or not, Edward Kennedy served the United States to the best of his ability for a very long time.
At this moment, can't there be a little respect?
Does it cost too much?

Not necessarily due to the election or political universe - the Kennedys just have the same effect as the Clintons and the Bushs on a lot of us...

And respect is something you should earn - murder and rape is not basis for respect in my world.
 

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What stood out for me about the article were all the quotes from President Bush, Senators McCain and Kerry, etc. They all just seems so pat, so contrived, so formulaic. We all know what the policiticians are going to say in these situations. I really almost wish they wouldn't bother.

We all know damn right well that half the country is thinking, "good riddance" and would do a jig on his grave, given the opportunity. I think they're wrong, of course, but I can't criticize them too much because there are plenty of politicians I feel the same way about. I almost wish they would just say so instead of all the generic "he's in our thoughts and prayers...he's a giant...he's a dear friend..." bullshit. At least it would be honest, and *that* would be refreshing.

To think his liver outlasted his brain. Amazing.

If you thought that was funny it wasn't........have some respect

No, it was funny. It's funny because it's honest, and can be said without meaning disrespect. It's the sort of thing you might say at an Irish wake. There is a time and a place for "gallows humor," as WifeOfBath calls it, although we may not always agree on when and where that is.

I think I love you.

Oh, shut up, you miserable bastard.

My mother, for whom I've been caregiver for the last 18 years, died last week of a brain lesion from a similar tumor.

Pecker, I almost indulged in trying to compose some comforting words that I thought would be really profound and clever, but I don't know you or your mother or any of the details of your situation, so that would be presumptuous. The truth is, I can't imagine what you've been through, good times and bad, so at the risk of sounding pat and formulaic, I will just say this: I am so sorry for your loss. Blessed be.

My father ultimately succumbed to a brain tumor...

I'm very sorry. My father just turned 66, and although he'll likely be around for another 30 years (my grandfather is still alive at the age of 97), I can't help to think of how many people I know who lost a parent at that age, or just a few years older. I'm realizing that I am going to lose him someday, and even though he's perfectly healthy and I've no reason to worry, the thought of losing him...

also if your senator feels like a family member, then you are a prime example of how homosexuals are destroying the American idea of family

just kidding guys.

Now that was out of line. Saying "just kidding" doesn't make it OK. Next time you're tempted to say something like that, instead of trying to pass it off as a joke, just don't say it.

BURP. Is he dead yet?

That was reprehensible. I am utterly disgusted.

It says something about how polarized the American political universe is, to see so many people saying poisonous things when they hear that the second longest serving American senator, still very much in the saddle, is probably fatally ill.
Like him or not, Edward Kennedy served the United States to the best of his ability for a very long time.
At this moment, can't there be a little respect?
Does it cost too much?

Very well reasoned and well put (as usual). Thanks, Rubi.
 

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Despite the dubious Chappaquiddick history, I have been a fan of Kennedy's policies for years. He may not have been as outspoken as his brothers, but he has been just as brave. I think that his effect on the Obama campaign shows how he remained influential.

To think his liver outlasted his brain. Amazing.

No Dead Kennedys jokes?
 

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He's my Senator, I live in Massachusetts, he feels like a member of my family.....joking at this time is in terribly poor taste. Whatever you may think of Senator kennedy as a poltician, he is a man who is gravely ill and deserves our thoughts and prayers.

I don't think of him as a politician but as a murderer who got away with it.

Too bad Mary Jo Kopeckne didn't live to be old enough to have this problem... or any other. Her life ended at a mere 28 years old. Teddy has had 39 years she didn't have.

The way the Kennedys have been treated as anointed royals by some people, particularly those people in the state that could claim itself the cradle of the American Revolution, shocks and repulses me.
 

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I don't think of him as a politician but as a murderer who got away with it.

Too bad Mary Jo Kopeckne didn't live to be old enough to have this problem... or any other. Her life ended at a mere 28 years old. Teddy has had 39 years she didn't have.

I wanted to avoid this topic, but I can't resist. How could he have missed the turn off? How did he end up driving down the entire pier? Why couldn't she have also gotten out of the car? It's all so unlikely.
 

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I wanted to avoid this topic, but I can't resist. How could he have missed the turn off? How did he end up driving down the entire pier? Why couldn't she have also gotten out of the car? It's all so unlikely.

No statute of limitations on murder. I'm sure we won't hear anything from anyone until Ted Kennedy is dead. Many people, including law enforcement officers, were told to keep their mouths shut -- or else.

I have sympathy for only one member of the Kennedy family and only because I know he absolutely loathes the limelight the rest of his family cultivates.
 

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I don't think of him as a politician but as a murderer who got away with it.

Surely Chappaquiddick was at most a case of manslaughter (and maybe not even that ... we'll never know).
To say this is not to split hairs.

The way the Kennedys have been treated as anointed royals by some people, particularly those people in the state that could claim itself the cradle of the American Revolution, shocks and repulses me.

Then your issue is with 'some people.'
 

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To think his liver outlasted his brain. Amazing.
You have no heart. :12: One of the great, political icons of the last 50 years has been given a painful death sentence. It doesn't matter if you didn't like his politics, you could show some respect for him as a human being.


My mother, for whom I've been caregiver for the last 18 years, died last week of a brain lesion from a similar tumor.
I feel for Sen. Kennedy and his family. This kind of thing can go quickly unless nature is allowed to take its course.
I am so sorry for your loss. I am just now learning how difficult it is to be a caregiver to a parent.

My father ultimately succumbed to a brain tumor. I know how awful it is and what he faces. It's tragic, there's no denying that. It was just a little gallows humor...
It was in extremely poor taste and very much out of line. :12:
... and I feel I showed a great deal of restraint by holding off on making some sort of crack about Mary Jo Kopechne and/or Chappaquiddick.[/quote] If you bothered to click the link you would have seen that those incidents were included in the article.
He's my Senator, I live in Massachusetts, he feels like a member of my family.....joking at this time is in terribly poor taste. Whatever you may think of Senator kennedy as a poltician, he is a man who is gravely ill and deserves our thoughts and prayers.[/quote] I agree. I lived in Massachusetts for 4 years. One of the highlights of my life as an American voter was getting to vote for Senator Kennedy.
 

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If this were a medical issue with Bush i think there would have been 30 pages by now of insults, "good riddance", he deserves it...yadda yadda. You bleeding hearts should be thankful there are only 1.5 pages of insults about this disgusting specimen of a human being.

I'd never wish cancer on anyone, i dont think anyone deserves this disease. But i'm not moping around because of it either. He's been fortunate to not take a bullet or try to use his plane as a submarine.

I'm amazing at how Pecker, one of our most prized members/moderators mentions the loss of his mother last week to brain cancer and only 2 people gave their condolences.
 

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If this were a medical issue with Bush i think there would have been 30 pages by now of insults, "good riddance", he deserves it...yadda yadda. You bleeding hearts should be thankful there are only 1.5 pages of insults about this disgusting specimen of a human being.

I'd never wish cancer on anyone, i dont think anyone deserves this disease. But i'm not moping around because of it either. He's been fortunate to not take a bullet or try to use his plane as a submarine.

I'm amazing at how Pecker, one of our most prized members/moderators mentions the loss of his mother last week to brain cancer and only 2 people gave their condolences.
Yes. My condolences were done in private last week. We never hear enough about what a great guy he is. I know LPSG wouldnt be the same without Pecker.
 

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Surely Chappaquiddick was at most a case of manslaughter (and maybe not even that ... we'll never know).
To say this is not to split hairs.

No, not, "surely." Kennedy intended to drive down the road to that pier. He spent the better part of the following day pretending nothing had happened while his father put in a fix with the governor. Kopechne was alive in that car for as long as two hours after it submerged while Kennedy ignored her, passing by FOUR occupied houses any of which he could have called for police and rescue. The two men who supposedly attempted to rescue Kopechne made no mention of that fact to police until Kennedy said they did in a speech.

"[Ted Kennedy] killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger." - State Police Detective George Killen, who was responsible for the investigation.

The fix was in. Simple as that. I don't care who he is or what he's done or what his family name is. The man should have faced trial for what he did. Instead he received a suspended sentence for leaving the scene of an accident and had his license suspended (which was later prematurely reinstated).

Then your issue is with 'some people.'

My issue is with anyone who dismisses the fact that this man got away with murder and can't understand the indignation of those who feel the life of a Kennedy is just as important as the life of a Kopechne.
 

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Get your facts straight, dude. The senator's father, Joseph Kennedy, was severely physically incapacitated from a stroke that he suffered in 1961 and COULD NOT SPEAK on July 18, 1969. He was hardly in a position to "put in a fix". Mr. Kennedy actually died that November at the age of 81.

No, not, "surely." Kennedy intended to drive down the road to that pier. He spent the better part of the following day pretending nothing had happened while his father put in a fix with the governor. Kopechne was alive in that car for as long as two hours after it submerged while Kennedy ignored her, passing by FOUR occupied houses any of which he could have called for police and rescue. The two men who supposedly attempted to rescue Kopechne made no mention of that fact to police until Kennedy said they did in a speech.

"[Ted Kennedy] killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger." - State Police Detective George Killen, who was responsible for the investigation.

The fix was in. Simple as that. I don't care who he is or what he's done or what his family name is. The man should have faced trial for what he did. Instead he received a suspended sentence for leaving the scene of an accident and had his license suspended (which was later prematurely reinstated).



My issue is with anyone who dismisses the fact that this man got away with murder and can't understand the indignation of those who feel the life of a Kennedy is just as important as the life of a Kopechne.
 

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What you describe is manslaughter.
You would be happier if you spent less time on the mountaintop hurling your thunderbolts down, Jason.
But to each his own.

Either way he killed her, It's semantics if you want to call it manslaughter or murder.