Texas governor suggests gay veterans should leave

[MisterMark]

http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelate...fm?blog_id=1006

Texas governor suggests gay veterans should leave state
Gay groups demand Perry apologize
By STEVE KOVAL | Jun 8, 10:55 AM

Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested that gay veterans unhappy with the proposed anti-gay constitutional amendment should move elsewhere.

"I'm going to say Texas has made a decision on marriage and if there's a state with more lenient views than Texas, then maybe that's where they should live," the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Perry said Sunday.

Perry's comments were in response to a question during a news conference about what he would tell gay war veterans returning from Iraq.

Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a group for gays in the military, today joined calls by the Lesbian & Gay Rights Lobby of Texas for Perry to apologize.

SLDN's Sharra Greer demanded an immediate apology from Texas Gov. Perry. (File photo by Clint Steib)

"More than 66,000 lesbian and gay veterans make their home in Texas," said Sharra E. Greer, SLDN’s director of law and policy. "Their service has defended the freedom of every Texan, including Governor Perry. The governor’s remarks dishonor their service and he should immediately apologize. We should be thanking these brave men and women, not asking them to leave."

Col. Paul W. Dodd, a retired Army Chaplain and SLDN honorary board member who now lives in Texas, said in a statement, "Gays and lesbians have defended our country since the American Revolution."

"Governor Perry’s remarks were outrageous and offensive and do not reflect the views of fair-minded Texans who value the service of our men and women in uniform. It is past time that those who fight for freedom abroad be afforded those same liberties here at home," Dodd said.

 

[BobLeeSwagger]

I'm not sure what's worse, that he said it, or that I'm not surprised.

 

[steve319]

Wouldn't you just LOVE to have had dinner with Ann Richards tonight to get her take on this jerk and the comment?

She's a hoot, I have to say.

 

[Supportive Female]

There should've been a reporter at that news conference with the guts to ask:

"So it's ok for a gay person to put his/her life at extreme risk for the people of Texas, just don't bother living here?"

Where are the journalists with real sac? Have they all been replaced with the "acceptable" newsreaders with hairspray and minds locked in the "OFF" position?

I think it all comes down to the list of journalists that are allowed to participate in the actual conferences. The political honchos have press "access" set up to prevent honest confrontation. THAT'S what should be publicized if we're going to open up the political system.

Call public attention to the limited nature of Q and A that a politician addresses, rather than each individual issue. The Shell Game keeps people focused on this-and-that response,

RATHER THAN THE MECHANISM THAT LIMITS FREE DEBATE!

 

[Dr Rock]

has Governor Perry himself ever served? it'd be interesting to find out, not only in its relevance to this remark but also given his views on capital punishment.

 

[SpeedoGuy]

Red state values on display.

SG

 

[madame_zora]

It would be humorous if it weren't so sad how completely horrible some people can be. That idiot probably encounters gay people all the time and has no respect for what they contribute to his life. They could be changing the tires on his car, serving him food at a restaurant, doing his taxes, mowing his lawn, teaching his children to read (they sure as hell need that in Texas&#33. What a presumptuous ass not to even think of how gay people might be positively affecting his life. He may one day need a (possibly gay) attourney to get his ass out of the trouble his straight mouth gets him into.

 

[DC_DEEP]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 9 2005, 04:45 AM
It would be humorous if it weren't so sad how completely horrible some people can be. That idiot probably encounters gay people all the time and has no respect for what they contribute to his life. They could be changing the tires on his car, serving him food at a restaurant, doing his taxes, mowing his lawn, teaching his children to read (they sure as hell need that in Texas&#33. What a presumptuous ass not to even think of how gay people might be positively affecting his life. He may one day need a (possibly gay) attourney to get his ass out of the trouble his straight mouth gets him into.

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As always, Mme, you are right on the mark. The one glaring omission from your post is the medical profession - doctors and support professionals. Healthcare is one of those groups of professions that have an unusually high number of gays and lesbians, most especially in nursing, various therapists (such as physical, respiratory, occupational therapists) and many others involved in direct patient care. Although I know these dedicated folks are way too professional to do it, wouldn't it be a hoot if they threw the ball back in his court? "Code blue? Oh, but this is that homophobic asshole. Let's put the crash cart away, and let him go to a state that has a heart specialist who gives a damn about him."

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by MisterMark@Jun 8 2005, 09:45 PM
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelate...fm?blog_id=1006

Texas governor suggests gay veterans should leave state
Gay groups demand Perry apologize
By STEVE KOVAL | Jun 8, 10:55 AM

Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested that gay veterans unhappy with the proposed anti-gay constitutional amendment should move elsewhere.

"I'm going to say Texas has made a decision on marriage and if there's a state with more lenient views than Texas, then maybe that's where they should live," the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Perry said Sunday.

Perry's comments were in response to a question during a news conference about what he would tell gay war veterans returning from Iraq.

Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a group for gays in the military, today joined calls by the Lesbian & Gay Rights Lobby of Texas for Perry to apologize.

SLDN's Sharra Greer demanded an immediate apology from Texas Gov. Perry. (File photo by Clint Steib)

"More than 66,000 lesbian and gay veterans make their home in Texas," said Sharra E. Greer, SLDN’s director of law and policy. "Their service has defended the freedom of every Texan, including Governor Perry. The governor’s remarks dishonor their service and he should immediately apologize. We should be thanking these brave men and women, not asking them to leave."

Col. Paul W. Dodd, a retired Army Chaplain and SLDN honorary board member who now lives in Texas, said in a statement, "Gays and lesbians have defended our country since the American Revolution."

"Governor Perry’s remarks were outrageous and offensive and do not reflect the views of fair-minded Texans who value the service of our men and women in uniform. It is past time that those who fight for freedom abroad be afforded those same liberties here at home," Dodd said.

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OK Freddie is noted for his long posts. So watch this. Just a few words.

Govenor Perry is full of bull shit. He is a disgrace to Texas, United States and the world. And since the govenor is so full of bull shit, bull shit is all that comes out of his mouth. And we can expect a lot more bull shit oozing out of his mouth for months to come. Perhaps the Governor has the mouth and the anus confused.

 

[absinthium]

Now, now, now, he didn't say he wanted all the fags and dykes to leave, just the ones who voiced an opinion about wanting to get married. They can stay, fine, so long as he doesn't have to hear them gripe about not being treated fairly.

Personally, I don't know why any self-respecting mo' would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

 

[KinkGuy]

Originally posted by Freddie53@Jun 9 2005, 11:18 AM
Govenor Perry is full of bull shit. He is a disgrace to Texas, United States and the world.

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He is just one of many. Welcome to the neo-con world. It doesn't seem to be a big jump from "here" to concentration camps, now does it? Aren't the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence "quaint"?

 

[DC_DEEP]

Originally posted by absinthium+Jun 9 2005, 01:44 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(absinthium &#064; Jun 9 2005, 01:44 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Now, now, now, he didn&#39;t say he wanted all the fags and dykes to leave, just the ones who voiced an opinion about wanting to get married. They can stay, fine, so long as he doesn&#39;t have to hear them gripe about not being treated fairly.

Personally, I don&#39;t know why any self-respecting mo&#39; would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

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The only reason I can think of is that Texas has no state income tax. But I would be willing to make a couple of compromises with him. First, anyone against whom he would discriminate with a constitutional amendment, should pay NO taxes - real estate, sales, any other taxes. Second, any laws regarding rights/priveleges for married heterosexuals should be nullified. They can call themselves married, but may have no joint property rights, may not file joint tax returns, etc ad nauseum. It&#39;ll never happen, but that&#39;s just my take on it. For some odd reason, I just have this nagging belief in the 14th amendment.

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Jun 9 2005, 07:36 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Freddie53

@Jun 9 2005, 11:18 AM
Govenor Perry is full of bull shit. He is a disgrace to Texas, United States and the world.

[post=319159]Quoted post[/post]​

He is just one of many. Welcome to the neo-con world. It doesn&#39;t seem to be a big jump from "here" to concentration camps, now does it? Aren&#39;t the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence "quaint"?

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Kink, perhaps you think it&#39;s quaint, but it is disgusting to me to see the aforementioned documents with shit all over them. dubya has been wiping his ass with them since his first term in office, but moreso now. And urging Congress to renew the "patriot" (read nazi) act.

 

[major_7]

Originally posted by steve319@Jun 8 2005, 11:53 PM
Wouldn&#39;t you just LOVE to have had dinner with Ann Richards tonight to get her take on this jerk and the comment?

She&#39;s a hoot, I have to say.

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Ann Richards&#33;&#33; The leather-wearin&#39; Harley-ridin&#39; ballsy- bitch with a blonde beehive hairdo jacked to Jesus.

One of the last things I did before leaving Texas many years ago was to try to get her elected Govenor. It is a shame that things worked out the way they did. Maybe she would be Prez now.

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by absinthium@Jun 9 2005, 05:44 PM
Personally, I don&#39;t know why any self-respecting mo&#39; would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

Don&#39;t ask me to explain it, but ass-pirates who live within a 500 mile radius of Dallas regard it as the centre of the gay universe, and those who live closer to Houston transfer that honour to that city. Personally, I would consider New Orleans and Atlanta to be the premier gay cities in the South.

 

[KinkGuy]

Originally posted by DC_DEEP+Jun 10 2005, 04:21 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DC_DEEP &#064; Jun 10 2005, 04:21 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Jun 9 2005, 07:36 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Freddie53

@Jun 9 2005, 11:18 AM
Govenor Perry is full of bull shit. He is a disgrace to Texas, United States and the world.

[post=319159]Quoted post[/post]​

He is just one of many. Welcome to the neo-con world. It doesn&#39;t seem to be a big jump from "here" to concentration camps, now does it? Aren&#39;t the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence "quaint"?

[post=319261]Quoted post[/post]​

Kink, perhaps you think it&#39;s quaint, but it is disgusting to me to see the aforementioned documents with shit all over them. dubya has been wiping his ass with them since his first term in office, but moreso now. And urging Congress to renew the "patriot" (read nazi) act.

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Maybe the facetious tone of my post was missed, deep? It was a vague reference to Alberto Gonzales when he referred to the Geneva Convention as "quaint".
You honestly didn&#39;t think I was serious.........did you???????????

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper+Jun 10 2005, 08:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DoubleMeatWhopper &#064; Jun 10 2005, 08:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-absinthium@Jun 9 2005, 05:44 PM
Personally, I don&#39;t know why any self-respecting mo&#39; would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

Don&#39;t ask me to explain it, but ass-pirates who live within a 500 mile radius of Dallas regard it as the centre of the gay universe, and those who live closer to Houston transfer that honour to that city. Personally, I would consider New Orleans and Atlanta to be the premier gay cities in the South.

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Actually, I&#39;ve been to Houston and I must admit, my gay friend and I found it quite "mo friendly" in certain parts. Also, being from the Bible belt, I can appreciate the jollies of being a lefty in the midst of right-wing heaven. Unknown to some, all things flourish when they have to hide, some weird mushroom effect.

So yeah, right-wingers want to force everything they don&#39;t want to see back into the closet, we&#39;ll just get stronger there and come back out more organised, articulate, aggressive, and bold. Fuck &#39;em.

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper+Jun 10 2005, 04:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DoubleMeatWhopper &#064; Jun 10 2005, 04:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-absinthium@Jun 9 2005, 05:44 PM
Personally, I don&#39;t know why any self-respecting mo&#39; would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

Don&#39;t ask me to explain it, but ass-pirates who live within a 500 mile radius of Dallas regard it as the centre of the gay universe, and those who live closer to Houston transfer that honour to that city. Personally, I would consider New Orleans and Atlanta to be the premier gay cities in the South.

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Something about "premier gay cities in the South" seems like such an oxymoron. I generally regard the South to be a very unfriendly place for any penis-bearing-mammal who happens to like to go ass-spelunking. (Well, America in general, but perhaps the South is just foreign territory to me and therefore seems extra scary.) It would be nice to think that there are cities where gay people, especially, feel comfortable.

Really, I&#39;d like for it to just be okay to be human... Maybe in my lifetime?

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by absinthium+Jun 14 2005, 06:19 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(absinthium &#064; Jun 14 2005, 06:19 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Jun 10 2005, 04:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-absinthium

@Jun 9 2005, 05:44 PM
Personally, I don&#39;t know why any self-respecting mo&#39; would want to live in Texas, but perhaps my Yankee-influenced vision is a bit skewed.

Don&#39;t ask me to explain it, but ass-pirates who live within a 500 mile radius of Dallas regard it as the centre of the gay universe, and those who live closer to Houston transfer that honour to that city. Personally, I would consider New Orleans and Atlanta to be the premier gay cities in the South.

[post=319517]Quoted post[/post]​

Something about "premier gay cities in the South" seems like such an oxymoron. I generally regard the South to be a very unfriendly place for any penis-bearing-mammal who happens to like to go ass-spelunking. (Well, America in general, but perhaps the South is just foreign territory to me and therefore seems extra scary.) It would be nice to think that there are cities where gay people, especially, feel comfortable.

Really, I&#39;d like for it to just be okay to be human... Maybe in my lifetime?

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Nazi Pinko fag&#33;

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by absinthium@Jun 14 2005, 06:19 AM

Something about "premier gay cities in the South" seems like such an oxymoron. I generally regard the South to be a very unfriendly place for any penis-bearing-mammal who happens to like to go ass-spelunking. (Well, America in general, but perhaps the South is just foreign territory to me and therefore seems extra scary.) It would be nice to think that there are cities where gay people, especially, feel comfortable.

Have you ever been to New Orleans, Julianna? The general population there is such a freak show that they tend to regard us plain, everyday ass pirates as a breath of fresh air. We can be as &#39;out&#39; as we like and no one gives a flying fuck. The only homophobia I&#39;ve ever encountered in New Orleans came from tourists, never locals.

 

[major_7]

Ft. Luaderdale seems to be ok these days.
Somehow, it is hard to consider S. Florida a southern state. It is not quite the same as the TRUE south.

New Orleans rocks, though, as does Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston. However, with the last three, don&#39;t stray to far from path, or you may find yourself in KKK territory.