Thank You George Bush

[D_Tintagel_Demondong]

Bush gave way too much to African AIDS relief. That unprecedented amount was crap.

Your compassion is so... uh... extraordinary.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Bush gave way too much to African AIDS relief. That unprecedented amount was crap.

Your ignorance precedes you. Really, it does.
Any other demons you'd like to unveil to the class? You blame African Americans for the passing of Prop 8, and now this. Really Faceking, what are you really getting at?

 

[houtx48]

Thank you Zippy W. Bush for the biggest slide in the stock market since 1929. I heard SMU wants you to get your outhouse library off their campus it makes them look bad.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Thank you Zippy W. Bush for the biggest slide in the stock market since 1929. I heard SMU wants you to get your outhouse library off their campus it makes them look bad.

Your praise is misplaced. You should be thanking Frank, Raines, Dodd and the ratings agencies for a 50% decline in stocks. Give a shout-out to predatory borrowers, too.

Thank you Bush for keeping taxes under control and keeping us safe...the things your are supposed to do.

 

[houtx48]

keeping us safe.....................lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll yeahhhhhhh whatever aand that zippy w. bush to you

 

[ZOS23xy]

the left hates more than they wish to believe. they are the party of segregation (senator KKK byrd). lincoln was a republican.

at that point in time, the Republican Party was just beginning, and doesn't resemble what it is today. There were also the Whigs and Federalist groups, all with different sets of ideas. 150 years is a vast amount of time for history, and there ideas have changed.

Senator Byrd has grown up through the ages. There's not much KKK left in him.

A lot of people who have differences with "the left" often have their minds set in stone.

 

[ZOS23xy]

the only thing you can compare Regan to is broccoli or maybe a head of cabbage, he was america's favorite veggie.

Reagan was such that he didn't exactly make policy, but allowed others to do that work for him. It was channeled through the Gipper in a wholesome way, and people liked him and the way he presented himself.

W. Bush is pretty much the same: advisors and funneling the ideas through him. Alas, the man is not good at what he does.

 

[houtx48]

the only funneling zippy w. understands is the kind jeff gannon does, it's take the jaws of life to get those legs back together.

 

[ZOS23xy]

And I forgot the ironic twist: Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln was a Republican.

Sounds like a liberal idea to me.

 

[B_starinvestor]

And I forgot the ironic twist: Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln was a Republican.

Sounds like a liberal idea to me.

Slavery was a liberal idea.

 

[joybunny]

Slavery was a liberal idea.

 

[joybunny]

Thank you Zippy W. Bush for the biggest slide in the stock market since 1929. I heard SMU wants you to get your outhouse library off their campus it makes them look bad.

:haha:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Slavery was a liberal idea.

Slavery existed WAY before there were Republicans or Democrats, liberalism or conservatism. This didn't become a new trend once the Pilgrims came to the new world.

Explain yourself. Seriously... Go for it. I could use a laugh this afternoon.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Slavery existed WAY before there were Republicans or Democrats, liberalism or conservatism. This didn't become a new trend once the Pilgrims came to the new world.

Explain yourself. Seriously... Go for it. I could use a laugh this afternoon.

The proslavery liberal idealogy here in the U.S. in the 1800's held that slavery was a just institution because slavery was the status in which Africans could enjoy the most practical liberty in light of his circumstances.

That's not to say that there wasn't an anti-slavery liberal movement at the time. However, a poster above inferred that Lincoln's abolishing slavery was a liberal idea. Mine is a counterargument.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

The proslavery liberal idealogy here in the U.S. in the 1800's held that slavery was a just institution because slavery was the status in which Africans could enjoy the most practical liberty in light of his circumstances.

First off, get your terminology correct. Africans were brought to this country not to be slaves, but as indentured servants. MAJOR difference between the two. Indentured servant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How can we determine this? Because African servants existed in the North as well as the South! The settlers in the North did follow the terms of the indentured servant and let their workers free after they finished their term of service. The settlers in the South, however, saw the servant as a means of getting work done for cheap and saving money. That's why they pushed to make their servants permanent property so they can benefit from their labor forever.

So no, slavery WASN'T a chance at liberty for Africans. And it wasn't a "liberal" ideal because both Republicans AND Democrats in the South wanted to own slaves.

That's not to say that there wasn't an anti-slavery liberal movement at the time. However, a poster above inferred that Lincoln's abolishing slavery was a liberal idea. Mine is a counterargument.

Lincoln's move to free the slaves is a good one and a major step towards the civil rights for Black people. Nobody denies that. However, it really wasn't a political move to benefit any party, but more of a financial maneuver. See if you can keep up with this one:

The South were breaking the rules of indentured servitude by forcing people who were only legally bound to work a few years to working for them indefinitely. The North saw that they were making more money due to it and called the South on it. Hence the arguing, the eventual secession of the Southern states and then the Civil War. Lincoln's motive was to "free the slaves". But technically, the African was never a slave to begin with. Because even with Lincoln's actions, those who were still under an indentured servant contract STILL had to complete their term before truly being free. So who was Lincoln really freeing? Nobody. It just stopped the South from making money illegally on indentured servants by forcing them to obey the servant's term limits.

And before you or anyone else decides to jump down my throat with any kind of ridiculous rant on racism, then think about this: If the African was truly free after Lincoln freed the slaves, then why did it take nearly another century before Black People were given all of their rights? What's good about the title if you don't get the benefits behind it?

You should learn to look past the party affiliation and beyond skin color... then you can see the real story.

 

[ZOS23xy]

Slavery was mentioned in the Bible. So it was kind of old. It was a way of thinking and living for the wealthy, not that it was a "liberal" idea.

Having tacked a liberal cause to the Republican party, someone's brain went on a bender.