The 2016 dnc

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I agree, I was talking more about the strategies of the democratic contenders..Then ,the elephant in the room was the Veitnam War, in its 4-5 th year, a war of "conscripts" by the way..Now, we have the unending WOT..Then, 2 horrific Assasinations 40 days apart enraging the conflagration of civil disobedience even more . Today, we have cops killing blacks, multiple cop killings, mass shootings,
The Dems were a divided party; with Johnson's decision not to run for reelection, VP Humphrey (Minn) and Sen. Eugene McCarthy (D-Minn.) entered the race.
On the GOP side, the "New Nixon" , along with his former McCarthy Hearing buddies from the 1950's , and future Watergate Plumbers, devised the "Southern Strategy ", which has endured to this day.

Humphrey chose as his running mate Sen. Muskie from Maine. Nixon chose Gov. Agnew of Maryland.
Today, Clinton chose Gov. Kaine of Virginia and TRumpitus chose Gov. Pence of Indiana.

Today, Trump has never held any political office...Hillary has been First Lady for 8 years, Senator for 8 years, and Sec. of State for 4 years.

In 1968, Nixon has been out of politics for almost 6 years, since his failed run for Calif. Gov. in 1962, against the current Govs. father, Pat Brown. Nixon told the press,"you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore"
Humphrey has been in Washington since 1949, 20 years..Hillary has been in Washington 25 years.

In 1968, the "outsider" won.

Nixon was by no stretch an outsider. He was out of office for a period, but after the Ca race he worked behind the scenes and as a fund raiser in addition to stumping for candidates in the 66 election. He did capitalize on a fragmented Democratic party and racial fears from the riots that followed MLK's murder. He also lied about his secret plan to end the war - invading Cambodia, off the books so to speak.
 
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Yuh, wel, how many can see behind the scenes in 1968 with 3 networks?
..He had not been in Washington since 1960 as a loser to JFK, then two years later, a loser in CA..
He was a 2 time loser... it worked, hunh?!
 

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Yuh, wel, how many can see behind the scenes in 1968 with 3 networks?
..He had not been in Washington since 1960 as a loser to JFK, then two years later, a loser in CA..
He was a 2 time loser... it worked, hunh?!

News coverage was not unheard of in those days. In fact voters were better informed in more ways than they are now. Nixon ran as experienced - VP, Congressman, Senator, WWII vet and policy wonk - he did not claim to be an outsider. Yes, he lost to JFK by a very narrow margin - so until he imploded after getting beat in CA he was well respected - even the Kennedy's were ok with him for a time. I'm just saying he did not run as an outsider and the public did not perceive him as one.
 

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News coverage was not unheard of in those days. In fact voters were better informed in more ways than they are now. Nixon ran as experienced - VP, Congressman, Senator, WWII vet and policy wonk - he did not claim to be an outsider. Yes, he lost to JFK by a very narrow margin - so until he imploded after getting beat in CA he was well respected - even the Kennedy's were ok with him for a time. I'm just saying he did not run as an outsider and the public did not perceive him as one.
Ok..ok..ok..well he still won...did I get that part right?.. Shreesh..You gonna argue with me about who had been in Washington longer too? Hunh? Relax..relax..I'm. Voting for your favorite candidate too, but man..Face it..She is not the favorite
 
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Is the DNC Hack an Act of War?

Brought to you by the country that fabricated evidence that started a war with the Taliban in Afghanistan
Brought to you by the country that fabricated evidence that started a war with Iraq
Brought to you by the country that provoked North Vietnam (and then lied about it) into a war
Same thing with the sinking of the USS Maine that led to the Spanish American War...
Brought to you by the same country that IGNORED Germany's pleas NOT to board the Lusitania...

The same country that has fomented and implemented a LOOOOOOONG list of coups and putsches to overthrow sovereign governments across the globe?

Like I said all along... Hillary will start WWIII and her supporters will rally behind her and the DNC will become the new WAR PARTY.

It's playing out exactly like I thought it would. I always knew that the US would stoop to falsely blaming a cyber attack on Russia as a pretext for a pre-emptive strike. I was hoping that the US would never get this desperate... but the revelations that the DNC and the Hillary campaign cheated and sabotaged their way to a primary victory was something I didn't expect.

I expected more out of the DNC and Hillary campaign... I thought she would wait until the Summer after she was elected but I guess the sooner the better right?
 
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Sounds legit. :p
Really, this article is sure to give her the presidency hands down now ..Pulitzer Prize race between Slate and the WP
.Between this and accusing the Russinas of making the chairman of the DNC and the communications director of the DNC pass emails back and forth unhindered by any hacking threats, even though they had previously been hacked and their lovely candidate had just been acquitted by the FBI of emails chicanery, ..they knew all alone what their alibi was if they got caught..after all..if their boss got away with it..
Shit, we'll just blame the Russins, yeah that's it, the Russians..
Well make it look like a retaliation for the US hack job , but we won't bring up the US hack job..no..We'll blame frame and shame
 

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Ok..ok..ok..well he still won...did I get that part right?.. Shreesh..You gonna argue with me about who had been in Washington longer too? Hunh? Relax..relax..I'm. Voting for your favorite candidate too, but man..Face it..She is not the favorite

Hey, I pointed out, correctly that Nixon was not an outsider in the same sense that Trump is an outsider. I explained why that was true. Neither was I defending Hillary's many shortcomings - which are NADA compared to Mr. Trump's. You are making this way more than it is.
 

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Hey, I pointed out, correctly that Nixon was not an outsider in the same sense that Trump is an outsider. I explained why that was true. Neither was I defending Hillary's many shortcomings - which are NADA compared to Mr. Trump's. You are making this way more than it is.
Your right..Yerba Mate was stronger than usual today..lol
 
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No, but the per

Now that was a pretty fair and balanced article..free of derogatory name calling and innuendos..
Whew, I feel reassured now, don't you..Geesh, what was I thinking..? No wonder Hillary hired her up after she resigned..

It wasn't an "article" it was a blog... an opinion piece. And like I said, one needn't AGREE with it.
 

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Things to ponder.

Is the DNC Hack an Act of War?

And is the U.S. prepared to defend itself from the foreign powers who would meddle in our elections?

The (alleged) Russian hack of the DNC should be one of the biggest stories of the year. Why isn’t it?

RUSSIA'S GREATEST WEAPON MAY BE ITS HACKERS


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-the-biggest-stories-of-the-year-why-isnt-it/

"why isn't it?"

I GUESS the way it works Sargon is that there are "good" hackers and "bad" hackers, "good hacks" and "bad hacks", depending on one's OWN perspective as to who's DOING the hacking, and who is BEING hacked.

Yeah... that must be it.
 

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I GUESS the way it works Sargon is that there are "good" hackers and "bad" hackers, "good hacks" and "bad hacks", depending on one's OWN perspective as to who's DOING the hacking, and who is BEING hacked.

Who the fuck is defending Guccifer 2.0? I'm certainly not.

Edward Snowden wasn't a hacker... he was a "leaker" and should have been given whistleblower status.

The problem is that you or ANYONE cannot establish a connection to the Russian government and certainly not to "Putin" for that matter... CrowdStrike got it wrong and are deliberately falsifying "data" to maliciously implicate the Russian government in something that they didn't do simply because they want war and Russia will not give it to them.

You are being lied to by the same people that lied to you in 2003.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-the-biggest-stories-of-the-year-why-isnt-it/

"why isn't it?"

I GUESS the way it works Sargon is that there are "good" hackers and "bad" hackers, "good hacks" and "bad hacks", depending on one's OWN perspective as to who's DOING the hacking, and who is BEING hacked.

Yeah... that must be it.


And to NO one's surprise......

WASHINGTON — Six weeks before the anti-secrecy organization WikiLeaks published an archive of hacked Democratic National Committee emails ahead of the Democratic convention, the organization’s founder, Julian Assange, foreshadowed the release — and made it clear that he hoped to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency.

Assange Timed WikiLeaks Release of Democratic Emails to Harm Hillary Clinton

Asked on that program whether the Russian government had given him the emails, Mr. Assange said that he never revealed sources but also that “no one knows who our source is.”
Uhhh uhhh :rolleyes:
 
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... Julian Assange, foreshadowed the release — and made it clear that he hoped to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency.

Absolutely not true... there's nothing in the article that MADE IT CLEAR THAT he hoped to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency.

You didn't listen to the interview but read the NY Times bullshit and erroneous analysis... but if you had actually listened to the interview you would have known that the NY Times article was completely full of shit. I mean it was 3 minutes fucking long... you have the attention span of a goldfish.

Asked on that program whether the Russian government had given him the emails, Mr. Assange said that he never revealed sources but also that “no one knows who our source is.”

You are confusing two different interviews. The quote you are referencing was on Democracy Now!


The structure of Wikileaks is precisely designed that they have no idea who the sources are of the documents and information they are given. It's all anonymously uploaded. He's telling the truth and ANY journalist worth their salt would NEVER disclose their sources and in Julian's case, he has no idea who they are.

You have no idea what you are typing... it's all easily refutable.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-the-biggest-stories-of-the-year-why-isnt-it/

"why isn't it?"

I GUESS the way it works Sargon is that there are "good" hackers and "bad" hackers, "good hacks" and "bad hacks", depending on one's OWN perspective as to who's DOING the hacking, and who is BEING hacked.

Yeah... that must be it.
Because it isn't, because the WP in 2016 is not the WP of 1972-74.. Because Woodward and Bernstein are not working there..because it's not a real story..it's an accusation,
Because Wikileaks has in the past affiliated itself with media outlets in the past, they chose not to this time because Assange correctly presumed that media outlets are persuaded to lean one way or the other..The US media got pissed off and now we're witnessing another get Assange orgy
If it was business as usual as before when he would release bits and pieces to the NYT and WO, the tables would be turned the othe way and the focus would be deflected..
Hell man, they missed a scoop and they're trying to make him pay..essentially giving him more publicity, sensationalizing yellow journalism style Randolph Hearst and "REMEMBER THE MAINE, TO HELL WITH SPAIN!"
 
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