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The U.S. Embassy in Iraq is, & has been for hours, SAFE! Many of our great Warfighters, together with the most lethal military equipment in the world, was immediately rushed to the site. Thank you to the President & Prime Minister of Iraq for their rapid response upon request........Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost, or damage incurred, at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE! This is not a Warning, it is a Threat. Happy New Year!

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

Damn! Good on him for defending U.S. Citizens! Thats our president!
 

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Yes Obama with his $150 billion asset unfreezing to a country that funds terrorists, so proud of him

Now we get this instead. But it's Trump's repeated pattern: take credit for redressing a problem that was largely his own making in the first place. One step forward, after two steps back. This is just an especially horrific instance.

I know we won't see eye to eye on this one; not something so emotionally charged. I'll step back for now and let others contribute.
 

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Damn! Good on him for defending U.S. Citizens! Thats our president!
Damn! Good on him for defending U.S. Citizens! Thats our president!


Apples and oranges

The two are not even close to being the same.

In Baghdad there were US ground forces, infantry type forces readily available in the immediate area that could DRIVE to the embassy and get there within an hour or 2 max and once there could be easily maintained/sustained for hours, days even weeks if required

In Ben Ghazi which was NOT the US Embassy (that was in Tripoli) there were no ground forces of any kind any where close the closest were THOUSANDS of miles away.

The closest offensive force of any kind were F-16's in Aviono Italy 1300 miles away, F-16's that were NOT on any kind of alert status, not fueled, not armed not nothing .

From IDing aircraft to getting them fueled and armed, assuming they run up Ok that is to be wheels up, you would be lucky if you got that done within 2 hours.

To make that 1300 miles hop you would need to max out on external fuel tanks which means probably nothing but internal 20MM cannon and to have any kind of loiter time you would have to stay out of the throttle no afterburners for sure , so 400 knots maybe 450 so you are talking basically 3 hours to get there and have loiter time still only measured in minutes before you would have to back track 100's of miles to NAS Sigonella which is NOT a "fighter base, so anything remotely resembling "hot pit refueling" is not in the cards

So at least 5 hours from "GO" Go at Aviono that is , NOT "GO" at the Pentagon you MIGHT get a minimally armed F-16 overhead for MAYBE 20 minutes

In those few minutes you are overhead, what are you really going to do ??

They would have had no comms with anyone on the ground, and at 4 o r 5 thousand feet beyond the range of small arms fire at 4 or 5 hundred knots it all looks the same, no way to tell friend from foe even if both side were/are wearing distinctive uniforms, which they were NOT.

Not apple and orange not even two fruits
 

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Apples and oranges

The two are not even close to being the same.

In Baghdad there were US ground forces, infantry type forces readily available in the immediate area that could DRIVE to the embassy and get there within an hour or 2 max and once there could be easily maintained/sustained for hours, days even weeks if required

In Ben Ghazi which was NOT the US Embassy (that was in Tripoli) there were no ground forces of any kind any where close the closest were THOUSANDS of miles away.

The closest offensive force of any kind were F-16's in Aviono Italy 1300 miles away, F-16's that were NOT on any kind of alert status, not fueled, not armed not nothing .

From IDing aircraft to getting them fueled and armed, assuming they run up Ok that is to be wheels up, you would be lucky if you got that done within 2 hours.

To make that 1300 miles hop you would need to max out on external fuel tanks which means probably nothing but internal 20MM cannon and to have any kind of loiter time you would have to stay out of the throttle no afterburners for sure , so 400 knots maybe 450 so you are talking basically 3 hours to get there and have loiter time still only measured in minutes before you would have to back track 100's of miles to NAS Sigonella which is NOT a "fighter base, so anything remotely resembling "hot pit refueling" is not in the cards

So at least 5 hours from "GO" Go at Aviono that is , NOT "GO" at the Pentagon you MIGHT get a minimally armed F-16 overhead for MAYBE 20 minutes

In those few minutes you are overhead, what are you really going to do ??

They would have had no comms with anyone on the ground, and at 4 o r 5 thousand feet beyond the range of small arms fire at 4 or 5 hundred knots it all looks the same, no way to tell friend from foe even if both side were/are wearing distinctive uniforms, which they were NOT.

Not apple and orange not even two fruits

You typed all that as though he's gonna read any of it :(
 

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You typed all that as though he's gonna read any of it :(

No I definitely read it. And don't believe it. Since you all love anonymous sources so much, here is an anonymous source that counters what you said. Do you believe this guy or is this a fake source? Or simply because its Fox News related, it means that its a lie? Regardless of how I feel about Fox News

'We could have been there': Squadron member speaks out on stalled Benghazi response

I mean I ask because the sources saying they were out of range consist of CNN, MSNBC, etc. etc.
 
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You typed all that as though he's gonna read any of it :(

You should expand that a bit to reading comprehension. Reading comprehension is the ability to process text, understand its meaning, and to integrate with what the reader already knows.

Thankfully his posts are invisible to me though the thread title is visible.
 
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Now we get this instead. But it's Trump's repeated pattern: take credit for redressing a problem that was largely his own making in the first place. One step forward, after two steps back. This is just an especially horrific instance.

I know we won't see eye to eye on this one; not something so emotionally charged. I'll step back for now and let others contribute.

Exactly. Trump takes credit for shit he's never DONE, and also for "fixing" something HE FUCKED UP in the first place. But hey, can't tell Trump's fkng sycophants any of that 'cause according to those b-----------ds Obama never did SHIT.

Trump has stolen credit from Obama by blurting one specific lie over 56 times in just the last year alone – Raw Story

"... Trump has repeatedly lied about a veterans bill that was actually signed by [President OBAMA].

[Trump] claimed credit for giving veterans a new health care option in a New Year’s Eve response to a Twitter follower, marking at least the 56th time he repeated that falsehood in 2019 alone, according to CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale.

According to Dale’s records, Trump has repeated that lie at least 109 times during his [occupancy]."
 

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That would require stepping out of the Foxy News bubble and damn is it freezing out there. Run run back inside!!

yeah it must be difficult not wanting to have a discussion about something that makes Trump look good/Democrat Party look potentially bad.
 

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-GDP dropped 3% last year and over 9% in 2019
-Oil exports 2.3 million barrels per day to 260,000
-42,000 rials to USdollar to 136,500 to USD
-inflation 9% to 37.5% with meat 110%
-Petrol price up 50%
-unemployment rising to 16.8%

The price you pay for supporting terrorism
 

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List of the 8 Senior PMU Officials Killed in the 2 Hellcat airstrikes:

Mohammad Ridha Al-Jabri (PMU's Chief Protocol Officer & mastermind of the Baghdad Embassy attack)
Mohammad Reza Kazim (Head of Hasan Resistance)
Hasan Abdul Hadi
Mohammad Al-Shaybani
Muhammad Kawtharani (The Hezbollah's Head of Iraq Activities and chief fundraiser) US Treasury on Kawtharani
 

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Trump was golfing the whole time but sure, pretend he actually cares.

"Trump spent just under an hour at his private golf club in West Palm Beach before returning to his Mar-a-Lago resort in nearby Palm Beach. He had spent nearly six hours at his golf club on each of the previous two days. "
Attack on US Embassy in Iraq shows stark choices for Trump
 

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Trump was golfing the whole time but sure, pretend he actually cares.

"Trump spent just under an hour at his private golf club in West Palm Beach before returning to his Mar-a-Lago resort in nearby Palm Beach. He had spent nearly six hours at his golf club on each of the previous two days. "
Attack on US Embassy in Iraq shows stark choices for Trump

you know..he does do work when there and has meetings. Do I have verifiable proof of this? No. Do you have verifiable proof that he isn't doing work? No.

Wouldn't trust that White Hose. No doubts they had it completely bugged before Trump took the office with some of the shady people in the Obama administration
 

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Wouldn't trust that White Hose. No doubts they had it completely bugged before Trump took the office with some of the shady people in the Obama administration

With all of those people who got indicted, convicted, and sentenced, I wouldn't doubt it.

Oh wait . . .
 
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She is getting roasted in the replies.
 

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you know..he does do work when there and has meetings. Do I have verifiable proof of this? No. Do you have verifiable proof that he isn't doing work? No.

Wouldn't trust that White Hose. No doubts they had it completely bugged before Trump took the office with some of the shady people in the Obama administration

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