The anti-free speech zealots lose again

[MisterMark]

Originally posted by XXLHS@Jun 29 2004, 09:44 PM
I have worked in Technology for a while... ISP in particular...

I don't know why people don't do some simple things that would make everyone work well together.

fist off, URLs work off the .com, .org, .edu, .net... etc. I suggested to several people and even to the WWW - impliment a .xxx for adult content... just like .com is supposed to be for commerical, .org was for organizations, and so on... pass regulations that say adult material has to be placed under the .xxx suffix - filters could then filter all .xxx from minors without issue... it would work and work well... so has anyone at the WWW or anywhere else done it... NO.

The real issue is not about access or flitering... its about the elimination of material and the groups that want to control what people access. If it were about minors v. adults it would be easy to do, but really what the issue is - is using the issue to shut off the access by making it illegal and punished under law... not about allowing it to be in an appropriate area, and not in others.

HS

I totally agree with you, HS.

I noticed that ICANN announced in March that they are reconsidering the .xxx domain. I would be comfortable with it, but I've read that there are First Amendment problems with putting all adult sites in what amounts to a cyber-ghetto. And some of the same issues would still be in play, for instance, would the LPSG be forced into a .xxx domain? The parameters that define which sites are "adult" and which are not would have to be very clear.

 

[jonb]

AlterNet had a *.xxx domain. It really depends: They can't force you into a domain name except that you can't use *.gov *.mil or *.edu without fitting certain regulations. I think *.int has a regulation like that, but I'm not sure.

Also because the internet is international, there are different taboos in different countries. As we start to define what's verboden, we'll start defining everything: Elementary genetics offends Iranians, for example. (They deny that the female has any role in heredity at all. Goes back to some obscure Islamic law.)

At this point, because the internet's international, it would seem any regulation would have to fall under the domain (no pun intended) of treaty. The only "rules" right now are terms of service, which is why spammers like domains like AGIS and Wanadoo which don't enforce their TOS.

 

[MisterMark]

Ah yes, that's another problem. There's no way you could get every country in the world to agree that "adult" sites should be forced into a .xxx domain.

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

Not to mention that LPSG and "naked chicks online" vs goatse are completely different things altogether.

 

[tracksuitboy]

Originally posted by MarkSavage@Jun 29 2004, 03:25 PM
The law, which never took effect, would have authorized fines up to $50,000 for the crime of placing material that is "harmful to minors" within the easy reach of children on the Internet

It's typical that law-makers never define what they mean. Although our laws have changed in the last few years or so, the law used to say that something was pornogaphic if it had "a tendency to deprave and corrupt". No definition at all. When that mad bitch Thatcher* passed a law effectiely outlawing any teaching with regard to homosexuality it said "which seeks to promote homosexuality as a pretended family" (or words to that effect). In other words, they passed a law so bloody vague that all teachers became wary of it and therefore avoided the subject altogether. Law-makers are very good at this little trick: is likely to, might cause; vague words which can mean a number of things.

* OK then, her Government. I just like calling her a mad bitch 'cause that's what she was!

 

[jonb]

Well, just look at the recently-struck-down indefinite detainments.

 

[13788]

Tender: ...

 

[13788]

maverackstud8: Free speech begins and ends at the bridge of somedodies nose

Ok,thats a joke.

But recently,I say a sci fi movie on Showtime or somewhere.It was called Equilibrium.starring
Dominic Purcell .... Seamus
Christian Bale .... John Preston
Sean Bean .... Partridge
Christian Kahrmann .... Officer in Charge
John Keogh .... Chemist
Sean Pertwee .... Father
William Fichtner .... Jurgen
Angus MacFadyen .... Dupont
David Barrash .... Evidentiary Storage Officer
Dirk Martens .... Gate Guard
Taye Diggs .... Brandt
Matthew Harbour .... Robbie Preston
Maria Pia Calzone .... Preston's Wife
Emily Siewert .... Lisa Preston
Emily Watson .... Mary O'Brien
(more)
Tagline: In a future where freedom is outlawed outlaws will become heroes. (more)

Plot Outline: In a fascist future where all forms of feeling are illegal, a man charged with enforcing the law rises to overthrow the system. (more) (view trailer)

User Comments: Pretty good (more) Enter the world of Equilibrium where there is no war, emotions are suppressed, and artistic expression forbidden. The guardians of order are an elite fighting force of Grammaton Clerics who specialize in the martial arts system and code of the Gun Kata. There is nothing they cannot do to enforce the ideals of their society but what would happen if a first class cleric suddenly began to feel?.
The story is about what might happen the morons banded everything.The movies shows,just how stupid if you took sensorship way too far,to the point,everything is illegal,art,literature,thought,emotions,cats,dogs and so on.In,end turns out,freedom is just about to burst open,through a restance force-literally underground.Christian Bale,plays a character,was one of the censorship cops and a pawn of the big brothers-who hello secretly got all the stuff,they are banning.
Sure,we might a bit of censorship,but one wonder where the censors end.

Who watchers the Watchmen ?

www.freewebs.com/equilibrium-movie/libria.htm+equilibrium&hl=en]My Webpage[/url]

 

[jonb]

And that's the other thing: Most pedophiles don't hang out on adult sites. They hang out where there are lots of prepubescent children. You can never tell if that 8-year-old on AIM is really eight.

 

[13788]

maverackstud8: TELL,THAT TO THE BAN THIS AND CRUSH MOB.
The reason,I posted a movie review is it said,than I could say quicker.If watch movies Equilbrium and Farenheight,451,you see the Nazi's and commies aren't the only ones to ban all free speech.Sometimes,Reverd John or Senator Claghorn wants use censorship,of things,to begin a campaign ban all human thought.
Sure,child porn is a problem,but it also can a witch hunt for anything adult.So if your reading this,control freaks out there-
frack you

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

Amen to that.

 

[13788]

BRMSTN69: Mavarack, I've noticed that when your pissed-off your post become quite a bit more clear, maybe thats why DMW taunts you?

 

[13788]

maverackstud8: Mavarack, I've noticed that when your pissed-off your post become quite a bit more clear, maybe thats why DMW taunts you?

maybe or maybe some members are just tiny little boys in a mans body

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by BRMSTN69@Jul 5 2004, 02:23 PM
when your pissed-off your post become quite a bit more clear, maybe thats why DMW taunts you?

And I thought no one would catch that.

 

[13788]

maverackstud8: talk to the hand