The Art of Tipping

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  1. Notthe7

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    Have people forgotten what a good tip was?
    I'm just curious because it seems to me that most people don't realize what they are doing out there.
    I'm an excellent server. I truly am..
    And what really just EATS at me is one I give SPOT ON service and people leave 5% tips.
    I can't tell you what this does to a server.
    It's like getting your dick ripped off mid-shift.
    A verbal tip... can be shoved up your ass.

    If you can't AFFORD to go out and eat I got ONE word for yah!!!!!
    MCDONALDS!

    Seriously... if you're out there, you bad tippers.... Go to Hell.

    3.64 on 58.00 is NOT good.
    2.00 on 68.00 is NOT good.
    0 DOLLARS ON 105.00 IS NOT GOOD.


    Wish I could DICTATE your wages love.... :D

    With that said, a huge thank you to all you 15-20+% tippers.
    You're appreciated more than you.
    Every time I get a tip as such, I kiss the ground you walk on!:biggrin1:
     
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    In Oklahoma the server pay is $2.13 an hour and yet I have seen people leave nothing on the table. If you get good sit down service pay for it.
     
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    If the service is bad, I'll leave ~5%. If it's mediocre, I leave 10%. And if it's good, I'll leave a generous tip.
     
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    Limit your aggression to the US. Tips are a part of your wage there. Here, a tip is an extra something.

    I'm usually generous though.
     
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    I normally give about 15% ish.

    I did notice tho that some Americans I've eaten with are demanding and much less polite to waiters/waitresses than people in the UK are - dunno why that is, they just seem to take the staff for granted. :(

    No offense meant to Americans - they're mostly great people. :D
     
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    I thought this was about tipping at rubbish tips!

    How dare you mislead me.
     
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    Some people are just stupid or cheap. If the service is bad, I get up from the table and talk to the manager or owner and there is no tip. A tip is for service. If the service is OK I leave 15% if the service is good, I leave 20%. If it's outstanding 25%.
    However the bar that I go to for Happy Hour once and a while...drinks are $8.00 I leave a $2.00 tip for each drink. I go to dinner at a neighborhood restaurant and know the owner and he buys us a drink after dinner I slip the waiter an extra $10.00 and take the owner and his wife a homemade dessert in the the next day or two. The lady who does my manicure and pedicure gets a $6.00 tip for a $20.00 tab.
    I once saw Tiger Woods and his late father leave a $1.50 tip on what should have been a $10.00 or $12.00 tip, I've never respected him after that, guess he never had to wait tables to pay his bills, but you would think both would have known better.
     
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    I live on Social Security disability... anything I leave is more than I can afford to spend. Sorry if I can't live up to your standards.
     
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    Awww... I thought we were going to talk about Cow Tipping! :frown1:

    Seriously, if you'd grown up in rural Wisconsin, you'd know what i was talking about. Kids get bored out there. :tongue:

    Anyway. I'm bad at math. I mean, BAD. That said, I know the easy way to calculate 10% is just to move the decimal place over to the left one spot. If the waiter didn't refill my drink for a half hour after I set the empty glass precariously close to the edge of the table, he gets 10%.

    The easy way to calculate 15% is to take your 10% figure, divide it by 2, and add the new number to your original 10% figure. It might help if you have a calculator. Most cell phones have a calculator built into them, BTW. I reserve the 15% figure for the waitress who is good with refilling my drink, but complains about being too busy. I understand her BEING too busy, and can even empathize, but she doesn't need to tell me about it. I'm paying for a pleasant dining experience, and that takes some of the pleasure out of it.

    20% is also very easy to calculate. No calculator needed. Just double the 10% figure from before. This tip is issued to the waiter that refills my drink the moment i set it down. The food comes out piping hot, so i know it didn't sit under the heat lamps in back for 10 minutes waiting for him. He's polite, smiles, offers an honest suggestion when asked for it, and doesn't try to push the most expensive item on the menu.

    25% is a rare tip, but it's still not hard to calculate. You figure the 5% the same way i demonstrated in the 15% blurb above, then you calculate 20% and add the figures together. Your calculator may come in handy again. Like I said, this is a rare tip. This goes to the waitress who refills my drink before my old one is empty. She explains that there's been a mix-up in the kitchen and our food may be a while. She offers us an appetizer, on the house, to hold us over during the delay. When the food comes out and it's under/over cooked, she apologizes and brings the manager over to the table so we can talk to him. The waitress who gets 25% is the one whose job is seriously challenging her, and she handles it in stride. Even if the manager comps the bill, this waitress gets 25% on the whole tab, and we tell the manager how great she's been.

    Anyway, my point is, it's really NOT HARD to calculate a suitable tip. I a mathematical moron, and i can do it. (I admit, it sometimes takes me a few minutes). If someone is not leaving an appropriate tip, he/she is just plain ignorant and/or rude. Too many 'merkins expect something for nothing. They expect exemplary service, they DEMAND exemplary service, but they don't expect to pay for it.
     
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    most tip I have ever left was $100 and that's because I worked for HP and knew how hard it is to be a server. Even still I always have been a big tipper leaving $10.00 like usual. I wish people knew how hard it is for a server.

    Even the educated think they make alot of money. My therapist was shocked to know they live off of a tips and that $2 something an hour aint cutting it.
     
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    Most have never known. Don't get me started on the French Canadians.


    Better yet stay home and cook.


    20 percent on good service (or more!)

    The problem is that most don't know that waiters and waitresses do NOT get paid minimum wage.

    I waitered my way through much of my schooling. It's gruelling work and you're dealing with a very serious crowd when you're dealing with what they eat. I could turn a table around when I saw they were simply dining out to inflict their nasty mood on a server ...

    In my opinion waiting table is one of the most difficult and skilled professions out there if done properly.



    This should be printed and used as a hand out to potential diners. nudeyorker has written the standard.
     
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    Maybe it's because I'm in the UK and tipping is different here, but I find it unbelievable that people will work for a low guaranteed wage in the hope that kind strangers will reward them for good work. Is that common practise in the US? I've never been.
     
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    Yes it is sad but true. I remember when I was waiting tables and the dread that overcomes you when you greet a table and realize that they are European tourists!(Maybe it just me but I always do a little research when I travel to understand the customs of the country) Most that I had the displeasure of waiting on did not.
     
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    I worked as a canvasser....so I can't ever be cheap at restaurants or bars...I usually leave 20% - 33%. It's just the laws of karma.
     
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    It seems to be Denise from what I've gathered on my visits there. The higher tipping in the US compared to Europe does seem worth it though. The waiting service in the US is far superior to the often surly service you get in the UK and Europe IMHO.

    Here in Tenerife the range in tipping from tourists is huge. The locals tip very tightly. Then tend to round up to the next euro :rolleyes: That said wages are very low here.

    My tips in the US ranged between 15 and 25% depending on the standard of service. Only once did I not leave a tip and that was in Central Park - "The Inn in the park" or something similar I don't remember the name. All the food took an age, the orders were wrong, the waitress was disinterested and unhelpful. The manager had the nerve to come and ask why no tip was being left. He wished he hadn't asked :rolleyes:
     
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    I totally agree NYer - fact find before you visit. Tipping in Fiji for example is strictly frowned upon yet the service is the friendliest I have seen anywhere. At the end of an hotel stay they tell you you can, if you wish, make a contribution to the staff Xmas fund but it is not expected and purely voluntary.
     
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    Wow, I'll certainly keep that in mind if I ever pop over the pond!
     
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    Was it this restaurant? I have had one lovely meal and experience here, the rest have been very lack luster. I have not been back in years.
    The Central Park BoathouseĀ  ::Welcome to Central Park's hidden jewel:: Loeb Boathouse
     
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    In a lot of places here, if you leave a tip it is put in a shared pot and shared out amongst the staff at the end of the day. So if you work hard and well your slacker colleagues benefit. It's wrong.

    But on the flip side, whatever they get is on top of their wage and not a part of it
     
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    No NYer it was something on the park or on the green. It was towards the South West corner of central park.

    That's common practise here too and negates any incentive to excel IMHO.
     
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