The audacity of hypocrisy

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Maybe I need to post this here too to remind people what real lying is like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnE4C9Gv5U

LMAO. Typical Olbermann.

"The auto bailout - a chance to cut union worker's salaries."

Um, the autos would have gone out of business without the bailout. The union workers' salaries would have gone to 0.

Among other blatant twists from the whiney, constipated spindoctor that is Keith Olbermann. He missed his calling and should be working the red carpet events at E! Television.
 

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Well Star, that was one, minor point in the whole broadside. We could also argue about whether workers or profits are more important, but whatever. On the whole it is still damning.

You know in the UK they're investigating whether the invasion of Iraq was illegal? People want Tony Blair's head for working with Bush to lie to the world. Not being able to deliver on campaign promises because of the Party of No is a bit different.
 

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I count 21 bullet points and not one has a link directing the reader to the source or legitimate journalistic analysis. Typical. At least I include links to the fools, jesters, and when possible, original sources.

A person would literally have to be in a coma to not see the plain truth in the OPs points. No single "honest journalistic source" is necessary, as there are literally hundreds or documented sources for these, and Obama's lies have become common knowledge among people who follow politics.

Search for Obama and lies in Youtube and you can watch video of the man himself contradicting and lying in recorded interviews, debates and town hall meetings.
 

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This is simply a reminder/refresher in regards to the overwhelming mistrust and disregard the American public has for anything that Barack Obama says.

A truly revolting and utterly heinous list of fabrications and outright lies. In a few other threads, some regular posters in the politics forum defend and endorse these lies; and protest that Obama needs to lie for the benefit of the country.

I believe he [Obama] should be held to a higher standard. Much higher.

I am not just taking a shot at the President. I am stipulating the awesomeness of the lies of one man.

  • Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include huge cuts in Medicare.
  • Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.
  • Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.
  • During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.
  • Obama criticized the size of George Bush’s deficit and promised to stop deficit spending if elected; but he has already quadrupled the size of the deficit he objected to and recklessly continues new federal spending in the trillions.
  • When campaigning Obama criticized bills before the congress that were too long for anyone to be able to read and promised to eliminate that; but the bills he has been backing throughout his first year are infinitely longer (2000+ pages) than the very bills he criticized.
  • Candidate Obama promised an end to the corruption of earmarks and pork, but the bills he has supported in office have contained more earmarks than ever before
  • Obama promised that he would make sure that there was always enough time for the public to read legislation before it was enacted; but he has done exactly the opposite, repeatedly pressing for even faster passage of even longer bills.
  • Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.
  • Candidate Obama promised bipartisanship and an end to partisan bickering; but in a display of especially ruthless partisanship his allies have shut Republicans out of all key meetings on his health care initiative, with the unprecedented result that domestic legislation of historic importance garnered not a single Republican vote in the Senate.
  • Obama criticized his opponent’s plan to tax employer paid healthcare benefits, and promised he would not tax them; but the bill he now backs will do just that.
  • Obama had promised that he would not sign a healthcare bill that would add one dime to the federal deficit; but the bill he now backs adds trillions in new federal spending, offset only by new sources of revenue that are both uncertain and more properly seen as offsetting the already existing deficit.
  • Obama coerced congress into passing his stimulus bill by promising that if it were passed unemployment could go no higher then 8%; but unemployment is now at 10%, and he could not possibly have had good reason to exclude that possibility.
  • Obama has repeatedly assured the American people that if they like their current health plan they can keep it; but the House bill which he supported created huge incentives for employers to drop their coverage and shift their members to a public option.
  • Obama assured a joint session of Congress that his health plan would not fund illegal aliens; but his allies had been busy voting down amendments to that effect. (This was the point of Joe Wilson’s outburst.)
  • Obama claimed that Caterpillar’s CEO had told him that Caterpillar would begin hiring again as a result of the stimulus bill; but that individual immediately announced that he had said no such thing, and that Caterpillar would in fact be laying off more workers.
  • Candidate Obama promised that Guantanamo would be closed by January 1, 2010; but it is still open.
  • Candidate Obama promised that his administration (unlike his predecessor’s) would be so transparent that TV cameras (C-Span) would be there for key deliberations; but an unprecedented level of secrecy prevails as the final stages of Obamacare are negotiated behind closed doors and kept so secret that even the Senate majority whip admitted that he had no idea what was going on. Requests for Obama to honor the promise of C-Span cameras are being ignored.
  • To gain traction for his attempt to return a would-be socialist dictator in Honduras to power, Obama claimed that he had been overthrown in an illegal coup; but the congressional research service pointed out correctly that ex-President Zelaya had been removed for constitutionally sufficient cause by legal and constitutional means.
  • Obama claims that he wants a public option only to increase choice and competition; but the House bill would clearly reduce choice both by squeezing unsubsidized private health plans out of the market, and by setting rigid conditions on acceptable plans that would narrow available options.
  • Obama now assures us that health insurance premiums will not go up if ObamaCare becomes law, insisting indignantly that people who say this have not read the bill; but the legislation forces insurers to cover preexisting conditions, which will compel them to raise premiums substantially.
Can anyone blame the American public for not trusting anything that he says? He has demonstrated a propensity for lying, and a pattern of making promises that he has no intention of fulfilling.


The Constitution should have a provision for a recall election, that way we wouldn't be stuck with this guy for four LONG years. LOL
 

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The Constitution should have a provision for a recall election, that way we wouldn't be stuck with this guy for four LONG years. LOL

I agree. Then Gore would have been in office in 2000. LOL indeed. :rolleyes:

Hate to point out the flaw in your premise brother V, but you are assuming the Supremes wouldn't fix the results of the recall too.

And for those too dense to catch the subtlety in my previous post, Gore won the popular vote in 2000.
So according to your formula we would not have been 'stuck' with that buffoon for eight long years.

 
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Hate to point out the flaw in your premise brother V, but you are assuming the Supremes wouldn't fix the results of the recall too.

And for those of you who were too dense to catch the subtlety in previous post, Gore won the popular vote in 2000. So by your formula we would not have been 'stuck' with that bufoon for the past eight years.

Oh, technicalities.
Still made for a good use of sarcasm. :biggrin1:
 

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This should have continued "...than Republican presidents". That would have been an accurate representation of your attitude.

I believe he [Obama] should be held to a higher standard than Republican presidents. Much higher.

There, fixed it for ya. Ain't it funny how our friends across the pond generally have a clearer eye on American politics than our own dumbed-down citizens? Good one, Chunder. :cool:

 
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There, fixed it for ya. Ain't it funny how our friends across the pond generally have a clearer eye on American politics than our own dumbed-down citizens? Good one, Chunder. :cool:

Hmm. I can't seem to recall my statement in which I proclaimed that it was okay for republican presidents to lie profusely and without limit our boundary.

If you are okay with lying - that is certainly your prerogative.

If you worked for me, you would be fired. Although, I doubt you would have been hired in the first place - because you probably would have lied in the interview process - so it's a moot point.
 

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If you are okay with lying - that is certainly your prerogative.

I'm not, and I don't, but thanks for your permission. It does seem that you exercise that prerogative yourself.

If you worked for me, you would be fired. Although, I doubt you would have been hired in the first place . . .

Well, that presumes quite a lot. I am fortunate in that I have been able to work for myself for most of my adult life. I really don't like working for other people. Least of all a troll like yourself.

Anyway, the scuttlebutt on you is that you are unemployed and live in your mother's basement after being fired from your job as a financial adviser (see first comments above). How a 'financial adviser' ends up with no means of self-support is curious to me. Unless you were really bad at it, and that's why you were fired.
That would make sense. How deep is your self-delusion anyway?

 
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Anyway, the scuttlebutt on you is that you are unemployed and live in your mother's basement after being fired from your job as a financial adviser (see first comments above). How a 'financial adviser' ends up with no means of self-support is curious to me. Unless you were really bad at it, and that's why you were fired.
That would make sense. How deep is your self-delusion anyway?

We are really reaching, aren't we? :rolleyes: good luck with that one
 

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FACT CHECK.

I don't have time right now to fact check all of these statements but wouldn't mind if you provided some actual documentation for all your claims from a reputable news source, ie: not Drudge, FNC, Red State or the like.

LIE No.1

  • Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include huge cuts in Medicare.
Obama is proposing decreases in the rate of increase of Medicare. This is not the same as HUGE CUTS.

LIE No. 2

  • Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.
Obama never lied about single payer. Early in the campaign he said if we were building a system from scratch he would think a single payer system would be the best. But he also acknowledged right after that that given the market system we currently have a single payer system wouldn't be appropriate. I disagreed with him but that's what he said. And, stunner, he isn't proposing a single payer system now. Single payer was taken off the table right from the start. Now, if you are implying that in the past he advocated single payer but that his position changed before he ran for president, then you are stretching the truth by calling that a lie. but he is now trying to push through essentially the system he called for during the campaign, with the exception of the mandate. But, from a policy stand point, the mandate makes sense, especially financially, and when he looked more into it he changed his position and acknowledged that publicly.

to imply otherwise is a lie on your part.

  • Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.
Yeah, he definitely flipped on that. Thank god.

  • During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.
Show your evidence. Verifiable numbers of the registered lobbyists in his administration and verifiable numbers from other administrations.
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OK, that's all I have patience for right now.
 

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Yes, I'm placated now. Just had to set the record straight in this forum about the ruthless lying of this radical lunatic.

When he waged war on banks last week that was the last straw.

You like to rant just to see your name out there when absolutely NOBODY (I've never seen it) has asked for your insight, opionions, or beliefs. You're like a Sears Catalog... fat and full of shit nobody wants or needs.
 

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You like to rant just to see your name out there when absolutely NOBODY (I've never seen it) has asked for your insight, opionions, or beliefs. You're like a Sears Catalog... fat and full of shit nobody wants or needs.

Thanks for that commentary. Actually, my name isn't posted anywhere on this site. We use things called 'screen names' which is how we are identified. For example, the name on my driver's license isn't 'Starinvestor.'

Just wanted to give you an update on that.

Secondly, can you point out anywhere on the site where someone has asked anybody for their insight or opinions? For example, is there a thread titled, "Finsuptx, can you give us insight on politics and your opinion on deficit spending?"

If someone has a personal question, they generally send a PM - which is not viewable to the public.

Your skills seem better suited to threads such as 'I went to the store and bought..." Those threads are much less confusing and probably not so overwhelming to you.