b.c. said:
The bible in all of it's versions and interpretations was written by men, and like man, hardly perfect. It wasn't handed down by a flash from heaven above.
Why b.c.! That's precisely what I've been saying all this time in reference to homosexual references by those 'hardly perfect' men. Only when you find it applied to your own racial plight does the "light come on". Interesting.
What's more, though the scripture quoted is, as you seem to suggest, a reflection of the culture of the time, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Black people (though some, for varioius reasons, like perhaps, justifying the practice, might want to make that connection).
Again, like playainda, b.c. attempts to distance himself from those he considers 'lesser'; homosexuals.
They seem to forget that slavery of that time was more often based on factors other than the race based slavery of the New World: factors such as what family one was born to, one's economic/social status, one's religion, country of origin (from a conquered state for example), etc.
And now you'd have us categorize the degree to which slavery is applied and temper it according to application?? -seems rather like situation ethics.
So why one thinks "Black" people every time they read "slave" is beyond me.
How can it be 'beyond you'. It's
all-inculsive! No one suggest it exclusively describes black victims. We're not morons. It's application to black people and slavery is cited in the context in which this debate is conceived since I've made the board face the inequity of how (some) black people feel in reference to their plight versus that of my own gay brothers and sisters. How can you miss that? And b.c.? It
was used (the Bible) very specifically to justify the enslaving of black people for generations. Do some reading during the years prior to the War Between the States and you'll see how many justified the plight of black Americans with just that same sort of blanked Bible sanction as so many now use to justify homophobic spoutings.
Why do you seem to want to skim over that part?
Many people of many races and cultures were enslaved.
Yes. And the Israelites (you know Moses's line "Let my People Go" which was later used as a persecution spiritual lyric by black Americans?) are a perfect example of your 'many other races'. Jews as recently as the 1940s (along with many forgotten homosexuals) suffered at the hands of fascists and were sent to death camps like Buchenwald and similarly put to death ... so I apply the Bible's references to
all oppressed peoples. That's, in essence, why I've gone to this length to expose the injustice of how many would condemn the homosexuals among us while stating "oh there's no comparison" when it comes to the denial of human rights for homosexuals.
But for you to obviously want to distance yourself from the very thing your own people endured and had reinforced by that tome astonishes me.
Again I say:
When it comes to logic and sound thinking oridinarilly intelligent people heave it all out the window when that Bible comes into play
Sounds like a personal issue to me.
Yes. It ought to be decidedly '
personal' to you
and to me. You appear to suffer from terminal short-sightedness. I'll lend you the money to go to the eye doctor to be fitted for lenses that don't rose-color the issue. I think the perscription should probably, more precisely, be for distance though.
aside to BronxBombshell:
Hey Bronx?? I think I'll start a thread called "thinly-veiled homophobia on the LPSG board"
Think it'll get the attention yours did? I'd rather doubt it. I'd certainly appreciate hearing
your views on this since you were ever-ready to pounce when you preceived me as a racist love. Guess since the injustices directed to your homosexual kinsmen in this country right now don't make much difference to you since they don't hit you where you live, yes?
dong20 said:
What's far worse is that many fail to see or worse refuse to accept that slavery is still thriving worldwide. I've seen evidence of that thinking here, though not from the poster to which you refer.
You're an amazing source of light in a very dark bleak tunnel dong. Thanks, my man.
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