Just Asking made a very interesting point in NJ's Christmas message to non christians. He said and I paraphrase, (so he can put me right :smile that Christmas was becoming so un christian that maybe christians should walk away from it and celebrate Christ in another way. My point is not to attack Christianity for taking over previous festivities at this time of year (everyone does that) but that now we have a more secular community or rather a less christian dominated one, are we reverting to a spiritual but non christian celebration of this time of year? It seems fairly obvious to me in the Northern Hemisphere that this time of year is a natural end and therefore new beginning. A time to have a party, to look back at the old year and to look forward to the new. A natural break in the course of our lives. As less of us are practising christians, is this what we are doing with christmas now? If you are a christian, does this bother you?