The continuous republican attack on the affordable care act...

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I do understand. You lost your coverage.

What I'm saying is, under circumstances like yours, I qualified for Medicaid through the ACA expansion. You could have as well, if your state hadn't fucked you over by refusing that expansion.

But you can blame who you want.
I will blame the party who is at fault for saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." The ACA was supposed to be for everyone. They lied. They tried to make me pay for coverage I didn't need and will never need. The party of the gays betrayed me. They apparently think I should marry a woman and have kids. My one vote might not do much, but I'll continue to cast it anyway.
 
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I will blame the party who is at fault for saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." The ACA was supposed to be for everyone. They lied. They tried to make me pay for coverage I didn't need and will never need. The party of the gays betrayed me. They apparently think I should mary a woman and have kids. My one vote might not do much, but I'll continue to cast it anyway.

Maybe you'll get that Republican healthcare plan passed yet.
 

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Obamacare Had Another Bad Day In Court. That’s Pretty Alarming. | HuffPost

"A legal challenge to the Affordable Care Act went before a panel of three federal judges on Tuesday and got a credulous, sympathetic-sounding hearing from the two judges who were appointed by Republicans.

"They were asking the kinds of questions that you wouldn’t ask if you weren’t already persuaded by the plaintiff’s arguments."

Nicholas Bagley, professor at the University of Michigan Law School


"This latest lawsuit, which comes from GOP state officials and has support from Donald Trump, is the third major attack on the law’s constitutionality.

In the past two cases, Republican conservatives and allies have won key battles in the lower courts ― only to have the Supreme Court stymie them and leave most of the Affordable Care Act, which is now commonly known as “Obamacare,” standing.

But the mere possibility that the two Republicans would invalidate part, let alone all, of the Affordable Care Act is hard to fathom.

The consequences of such a ruling would be devastating, and the underlying argument of the lawsuit is, according to a wide array of respectable legal experts, positively bonkers."

20 Million Could Lose Insurance

"Ending the Affordable Care Act would take away guarantees of coverage for people with pre-existing conditions, eliminate tax credits for people who buy health insurance on their own, and cut off federal support for expanded state Medicaid programs.

In total, according to estimates by the Urban Institute, 20 million people would lose health insurance.

Many, many more would lose protections ― like a prohibition on annual or lifetime benefit limits ― they might need in case of catastrophic medical issues.

This is pretty much the opposite of the “insurance for everybody” and “great health care” that Trump has repeatedly promised to deliver.


Instead, the Justice Department filed briefs on behalf of the plaintiffs ― a move that Trump reportedly ordered himself.

 
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if the ACA disappears and with it most of red america's health care, you can bet the dems will be voted into every national office on the ballot next year. wait until people no longer have medicaid for their kids because the expansion that covers them has disappeared. wait until their 26 yr old kids have no insurance on their plans. wait until diabetics lose their ACA coverage and because they now have a "pre-existing condition" they can't afford either another plan or their insulin. wait until rural hospitals go broke and close.

How Trump and the GOP plan to ruin the U.S. health-care system

Then again people are pretty stupid they haven't been able to connect the dots for 40 years now since Reagan swept in with trickle-down voodoo economics.
 

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How Trump and the GOP plan to ruin the U.S. health-care system

Then again people are pretty stupid they haven't been able to connect the dots for 40 years now since Reagan swept in with trickle-down voodoo economics.

No they haven't.

Lest we forget conservatives turned out in droves to give both the House and the Senate to a bunch of obstructionist b------------ds, who've blocked the medicaid expansion in numerous states, blocked jobs initiatives, and stimulus proposals, and who've voted nearly SIXTY TIMES to repeal, defund, or otherwise undermine the ACA.

And after having gained control of the White House, the Supreme Court, and both houses of Congress, as far as coming up with a viable alternative, they haven't produced

JACK SHIT.

Reminder for media: There is no 'Republican healthcare plan'—period


Medicare For None! Holy Hell Mitch gave Democrats THE soundbite for 2020
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...l-Mitch-gave-Democrats-THE-soundbite-for-2020
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if the ACA disappears and with it most of red america's health care, you can bet the dems will be voted into every national office on the ballot next year. wait until people no longer have medicaid for their kids because the expansion that covers them has disappeared. wait until their 26 yr old kids have no insurance on their plans. wait until diabetics lose their ACA coverage and because they now have a "pre-existing condition" they can't afford either another plan or their insulin. wait until rural hospitals go broke and close.

How Trump and the GOP plan to ruin the U.S. health-care system

Then again people are pretty stupid they haven't been able to connect the dots for 40 years now since Reagan swept in with trickle-down voodoo economics.
They'll blame the Democrats. This'll be just another example of blaming the one trying to help and not the one beating you constantly.
 

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They'll blame the Democrats. This'll be just another example of blaming the one trying to help and not the one beating you constantly.
Its why the deep red states stay the worst at everything. Worst educated, poorest, worst healthcare. But, will be damned if they elect a democrat who wants to take care of the poor, actually help educate the people get the to college, help their debt.

Those "libs" want to mix the races, and let the gays be free, and come take our guns! So they will stay voting for GOP who want to keep them stupid, and keep them poor.
 
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Its why the deep red states stay the worst at everything. Worst educated, poorest, worst healthcare. But, will be damned if they elect a democrat who wants to take care of the poor, actually help educate the people get the to college, help their debt.

Those "libs" want to mix the races, and let the gays be free, and come take our guns! So they will stay voting for GOP who want to keep them stupid, and keep them poor.

Know this now: When it comes to the health and well-being of the human population, Trump’s GOP has proven more dangerous than any terrorist organization could ever hope to be. ISIS has nothing on the modern Republican party.

All for the sake of a handful of desperately ignorant, hollow-souled American racists – many who still think of themselves as Christian – who appear to lack all critical thinking skills and who understand not a whit of history or truly inclusive American values. All for the sake of one bloated old man, a shockingly cruel, openly sociopathic, deeply bigoted game-show host/Russian stooge and his thuggish, despicable ego. There are simply not enough words.
 

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Wingnut federal judge rules against people with pre-existing conditions

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"Judge Richard Leon, of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, has ruled that the Trump administration can break the law, in this case the Affordable Care Act, and expand the sale of junk, short-term health insurance policies.

Challengers argued that this would undermine the ACA markets.... They also argued, correctly, that this undermines the protections for people with pre-existing conditions under the law. The short-term plans Trump is allowing would not have to extend those protections.

Leon was not swayed by reality."
 

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Wingnut federal judge rules against people with pre-existing conditions

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"Judge Richard Leon, of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, has ruled that the Trump administration can break the law, in this case the Affordable Care Act, and expand the sale of junk, short-term health insurance policies.

Challengers argued that this would undermine the ACA markets.... They also argued, correctly, that this undermines the protections for people with pre-existing conditions under the law. The short-term plans Trump is allowing would not have to extend those protections.

Leon was not swayed by reality."


Yep just more of that insurance that certain poster are going to say the "like" for some unknown explainable reason and will then want to "keep" even though built into this new "rule" just like it was before it is that insurance company that gets to decide that, Mr. throb can claim he "likes" it to no end and may want to "keep" it but when who ever sells the policy decides to drop his ass, like right after he finally uses it he will be SOL

Gee what is not to "like" ??

Why would ANYONE not want to "keep" that ??
 

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I will blame the party who is at fault for saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep it." The ACA was supposed to be for everyone. They lied. They tried to make me pay for coverage I didn't need and will never need. The party of the gays betrayed me. They apparently think I should marry a woman and have kids. My one vote might not do much, but I'll continue to cast it anyway.

The larger "unabridged" version that unfortunately for you and your kind you can not understand because it will not fit on a bumper sticker would have been clear about what "they" were saying.

Anyone who has ever bought car or homeowners insurance and REALLY looked at the policy will find that it "covers things" that you may not want or ever need but yet if you ask you will get told by your agent some form "that is how it is" and that to get the insurance for what you want you have to also "buy" the parts you do NOT want
 

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Horror stories emerge as more 'junk' insurance policies are sold, thanks to Trump's ACA sabotage

"Whether it’s promoting for-profit colleges that bilk students with worthless degrees, steering low-income workers towards payday lenders that charge usurious interest rates, or gutting the only federal agency that protected consumers from unfair or discriminatory practices by financial institutions, the Trump administration has shown it has a special place in its heart for scammers, swindlers and con artists.

The health care industry is no exception. After it failed in 2017 to repeal the Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”), the administration set its sights on doing whatever it could to weaken the protections it afforded Americans by sabotaging some of its key provisions, including the restrictions on sale of “junk” health insurance policies, policies with minimal protections offered by insurance companies as an inducement to people who are either between jobs or otherwise uninsured.

The ACA originally included an exemption which permitted only a three-month “short-term” coverage period for such policies... But in 2018 ... Trump... issued an executive order expanding this exemption to allow policies that would extend for an entire year, with an option to renew them for up to three years.

Meanwhile... enticing and misleading advertisements for these “junk” plans began to propagate online when people searched for government-sponsored insurance coverage, along with a torrent of Robocalls... hawking these garbage policies.


As a result, more and more Americans are buying health insurance that is essentially useless, and finding themselves saddled with catastrophic medical bills that they have no ability to pay.


Fewer than 100,000 people had such plans at the end of last year, according to state insurance regulators, but the Trump administration says that number will jump by 600,000 in 2019 as a result of the changes. Some brokers are taking advantage, selling plans so skimpy that they offer no meaningful coverage."
[In plain English, that's called a FUCKING SCAM, folks, courtesy of the KING of cons. The article continues.]

"Bloomberg reporters Zeke Faux, Polly Mosendz and John Tozzi profile the Diaz family, who purchased one of these policies through a company called Health Insurance Innovations (publicly listed as HIIQ).

Marisia Diaz recalls being read a long, boilerplate disclaimer over the phone that she says “went by so quickly that she couldn’t follow the details.” She was also told that the coverage she was getting was comprehensive, and very similar to her prior health care coverage.

It wasn’t. After her husband sustained a major heart attack in late 2017, the Diazes were hit with $244,447.91 in medical bills that the insurance company refused to pay.

the same broker who had led her to believe that the policy was “comprehensive” ... admitted that, in reality, their coverage was quite minimal."
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"making America 'great'............"

 

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Horror stories emerge as more 'junk' insurance policies are sold, thanks to Trump's ACA sabotage

"Whether it’s promoting for-profit colleges that bilk students with worthless degrees, steering low-income workers towards payday lenders that charge usurious interest rates, or gutting the only federal agency that protected consumers from unfair or discriminatory practices by financial institutions, the Trump administration has shown it has a special place in its heart for scammers, swindlers and con artists.

The health care industry is no exception. After it failed in 2017 to repeal the Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”), the administration set its sights on doing whatever it could to weaken the protections it afforded Americans by sabotaging some of its key provisions, including the restrictions on sale of “junk” health insurance policies, policies with minimal protections offered by insurance companies as an inducement to people who are either between jobs or otherwise uninsured.

The ACA originally included an exemption which permitted only a three-month “short-term” coverage period for such policies... But in 2018 ... Trump... issued an executive order expanding this exemption to allow policies that would extend for an entire year, with an option to renew them for up to three years.

Meanwhile... enticing and misleading advertisements for these “junk” plans began to propagate online when people searched for government-sponsored insurance coverage, along with a torrent of Robocalls... hawking these garbage policies.


As a result, more and more Americans are buying health insurance that is essentially useless, and finding themselves saddled with catastrophic medical bills that they have no ability to pay.


Fewer than 100,000 people had such plans at the end of last year, according to state insurance regulators, but the Trump administration says that number will jump by 600,000 in 2019 as a result of the changes. Some brokers are taking advantage, selling plans so skimpy that they offer no meaningful coverage."
[In plain English, that's called a FUCKING SCAM, folks, courtesy of the KING of cons. The article continues.]

"Bloomberg reporters Zeke Faux, Polly Mosendz and John Tozzi profile the Diaz family, who purchased one of these policies through a company called Health Insurance Innovations (publicly listed as HIIQ).

Marisia Diaz recalls being read a long, boilerplate disclaimer over the phone that she says “went by so quickly that she couldn’t follow the details.” She was also told that the coverage she was getting was comprehensive, and very similar to her prior health care coverage.

It wasn’t. After her husband sustained a major heart attack in late 2017, the Diazes were hit with $244,447.91 in medical bills that the insurance company refused to pay.

the same broker who had led her to believe that the policy was “comprehensive” ... admitted that, in reality, their coverage was quite minimal."
"making America 'great'............"


But THAT was the insurance that people were supposed to "like" and therefore "wanted" to KEEP
 

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Stop using GOP talking points re: healthcare - you already "pay for it"

Call private health insurance costs “taxes in everything but name.”


"Analysis: Americans already pay a "gigantic" hidden health-care tax, economists say.

The question of who will foot the bill for Medicare-for-all is almost beside the point. https://t.co/12fott4Bqf - The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 16, 2019

To some economists, the question is moot: Americans already pay a massive “tax” to fund health care, they say. It just happens to go to private insurance companies, rather than the federal government.


That’s the argument put forth in Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman’s new book, “The Triumph of Injustice.” The economists at the University of California at Berkeley, who have advised Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on the creation of a wealth tax, call private health insurance costs “taxes in everything but name.”

They are automatically deducted from workers’ paychecks. And they are essentially mandatory for families who don’t want to be crippled by long-term health-care costs or unexpected illnesses."
 

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Can't help but wonder what Trump's HOODWINKED supporters, especially the middle class and poor among them, will do when Trump's conservatively stacked SCOTUS finally kills Obamacare once and for all.

No problemo for Trump though. He'll just tell 'em it's all Obama's fault, and they'll drink THAT fkng Koolaid as WELL. Because IGNORANCE IS BLISS. And there's NO ignorance like that which is fueled by HATE.

JUST like Louisiana bigots are prepared to dump the Democratic governor, who's worked on BEHALF of the state's citizens, by saving funding for higher education, and enacting the Medicaid expansion in this state.

Regardless they went out and voted for a wealthy businessman with NO particular qualifications, who hadn't done SHIT for anyone that didn't benefit himself, who's BOUGH an election with Trump's blessings. One ready to turn back the clock to the days of Bobby fkng Jindal.

I hope their treachery will come back to bite 'em IN THE ASS.


Senate Rejects Measure Trying To Nullify Trump's Obamacare Waivers | HuffPost


"The Senate on Wednesday rejected a Democratic effort to overturn Trump administration regulations allowing cheaper health insurance options that exclude key benefits under the Affordable Care Act and aren’t generally available to people with preexisting conditions.

Last year, the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, announced it would let states alter existing Obamacare rules known as “1332 waivers” for the distribution and use of federal health insurance tax credits to allow people to purchase cheaper insurance plans that exclude key benefits, like full prescription coverage, maternity costs or inpatient psychiatric care.

The plans are less expensive because they cover fewer services, and, unlike under Obamacare, people who have serious, expensive-to-treat medical problems can’t get them.

Moreover, experts say they would undermine Obamacare’s health exchange markets by allowing healthier customers to flock to the skimpier plans, resulting in higher premiums for those who want or need more comprehensive coverage.

The rule change was among a number of ways the Trump administration has tried to weaken the health care law after failing to repeal it in Congress in 2017, including repealing its individual mandate and imposing work requirements on Medicaid recipients.

The administration has also backed a lawsuit seeking to overturn the entire law in the courts ― including its popular protections for people with preexisting protections ― without proposing an alternative plan if that does occur.

“The hypocrisy from [iNDIVIDUAL 1] and Republicans when it comes to preexisting conditions protections is just stark.

Republicans know that these plans cover next to nothing for those who get sick and are often completely unaffordable to the average family,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday."
 
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Another dumb, priviledged fuck named Donny:

Danish millionaire slams Donny Deutsch for F***ing Denmark comment discussing Medicare for All


An Iran born Danish millionaire set a willfully uninformed Donny Deutsch straight on his ignorant comment about healthcare in Denmark. The Dane also pointed out how disingenuous Deutsch was with his personal characterization.

It all started last week on Real Time with Bill Maher where Donny Deutsch said the following.

“My grandfather was a cop, ok. My mother was a school teacher and they worked really hard to put me in a position where I can buy the kind of insurance I want . . . If I can’t buy it for my children, we are going backwards. We’re f***ing Denmark.”

Djaffar Shalchi, a Danish millionaire and founder of Human Act pushed back. He wrote a letter on Medium addressed to Donny Deutsch that illustrated how willfully ignorant he is. He first pointed out that Deutsch's personalization was disingenuous.

"Let’s set aside your choice to highlight the modest careers of your grandfather and your mother, while neglecting to mention your father’s success as the founder of a large advertising agency. I’m sure it was not your intention to misrepresent the privilege into which you were born. And good for you for appreciating how your takeover of your father’s business at age 32 (20 years after he founded it) did indeed put you in a position to buy the best insurance available. It is important, isn’t it, to give credit where credit is due."

Shalchi schooled Donny on the realities of Denmark's system's superiority to [an] evil money-grabbing healthcare system.

"In f***ing Denmark, we spend almost half as much per capita on healthcare as the United States. Despite our lower levels of spending, our life expectancy is higher, our infant mortality is lower, and our overall health is much better than the United States. In f***ing Denmark, we deliver high-quality, universal healthcare to each and every citizen, unlike the United States, which offers a for profit “consumer choice” system that leaves millions of your people “choosing” to be uninsured and hundreds of thousands of others “choosing” to be both insured and bankrupt."

 

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Trump administration’s decision to cut the ACA’s outreach budget by 90 percent affecting ACA open enrollment
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ld-get-free-insurance-still-havent-signed-up/
Obamacare Open Enrollment Ends This Weekend, But Millions Who Could Get Free Insurance Still Haven’t Signed Up – Mother Jones


Uninsured? You have three days to fix that.

"The deadline for open enrollment in the Affordable Care Act marketplace is this Sunday, December 15.

Nearly 5 million Americans who qualify for no-premium health insurance under the ACA have still not enrolled, a group of left-leaning health care advocates said during a press call Thursday.


This is similar to the number of uninsured people eligible to purchase a no-premium bronze plan last year, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, which estimates that a total of 16.7 million people who are eligible for Obamacare remain uninsured.

One of the main obstacles for getting people enrolled has been the the Trump administration’s decision to cut the ACA’s outreach budget by 90 percent, according to Jodi Ray, the director of Florida Covering Kids & Families, a program that helps sign individuals up for insurance.

Many people who are eligible for Obamacare live in marginalized communities, might not speak English as a first language, or might not have internet access, making it especially difficult to get the word out to them, Joshua Peck, co-founder of Get America Covered, said.

“When people know about the ACA, they sign up for it,” he said. “When they don’t, they don’t.”

The officials stressed that increased competition among insurers has led to lower premiums and more plans for consumers to choose from, indicating that the market is stable despite pending [TRUMP-GOP BACKED] litigation that threatens to undermine the program.


Andy Slavitt, the former acting administrator of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services under Barack Obama, stressed that:

...marketplace plans are preferable to the “junk” short-term insurance plans introduced by the Trump administration.


That’s because the plans on the marketplaces are required to offer comprehensive benefits in line with the ACA, including protection for people with preexisting conditions, mental health coverage, and maternity coverage.

...yet ANOTHER example of Trump and his right winged underhanded b------------ds... working hard to "make America great."


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A stunning indictment of the U.S. health-care system, in one chart
Americans are putting off medical treatment in record numbers because of cost, Gallup data shows

One quarter of American adults say they or a family member has put off treatment for a serious medical condition because of cost, according to data released this week by Gallup. That number is the highest it’s been in nearly three decades of Gallup polling.

An additional 8 percent have made the same choice for less serious ailments, the survey showed. That means a collective 33 percent of those polled have prioritized financial considerations over their health, tying the high set in 2014.

There are many factors driving up the cost of care for most American families. Administrative costs are a big part of the issue: Health insurance is largely a for-profit industry, meaning insurance companies and their shareholders are reaping a percentage of your deductibles and co-pays as profit.

Many hospitals, too, are raking in profits. In recent years, surprise billing practices and outrageous markups for simple drugs and services have drawn the ire of lawmakers looking for ways to reduce health-care spending.

Physician pay is another significant expense. The Commonwealth Fund, a health-care research group, estimates American doctors earn “nearly double the average salary” of doctors in other wealthy nations. The American Medical Association, a trade group representing doctors, has a long history of opposing efforts to implement European-style single-payer health-care systems in the United States.

The American health-care system, in other words, works pretty well for the powerful players in the health-care industry. Hospitals and insurance companies are reaping significant profits. Doctors are earning high salaries. But what are the rest of us getting in return for our ever-growing co-pays and deductibles?


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