The corbin fisher effect............

[CuriousGuy]

I'll play devils advocate here, but is it any more dangerous to use terms like everyone, all or everybody, than it is to say you are 100% gay?
I agree with the never say never way of thinking on lots of stuff, "ALL" is a big term.

You haven't lived your whole life yet, and our sexuality is affected by time, age, experiences to some extent...…...maybe at some point you decide you are 99 and 1 or 50/50 or any combination other than the 100 percent you are now.

LOL, you're right….I really do love me some pussy

 

[Burghf_er]

I'll play devils advocate here, but is it any more dangerous to use terms like everyone, all or everybody, than it is to say you are 100% gay?
I agree with the never say never way of thinking on lots of stuff, "ALL" is a big term.
You haven't lived your whole life yet, and our sexuality is affected by time, age, experiences to some extent...…...maybe at some point you decide you are 99 and 1 or 50/50 or any combination other than the 100 percent you are now.

Making a self-assessment now based on speculating about the future is silly, illogical. I am 100% gay now, and I've been 100% gay until now. I can say I am 100% gay and not sexually fluid. That might change in the future, but if I put a percentage now on speculation about the future, it would be based on a speculative probability, something like estimating my odds of winning a poker game next week when I don't know who I'm playing against, what mood I would be in, etc.

I can say: I know myself and my history. You do not know me at all. And no one knows "everyone," "everybody," or "all," so please stop using those words.

 

[Burghf_er]

Why do some bisexual guys insist on claiming that everyone is bisexual?
Stop being so insecure about it, like you need everyone at the party. You're bisexual, I'm not, and that's just fine.

 

[wildcat16]

Why do some bisexual guys insist on claiming that everyone is bisexual?
Stop being so insecure about it, like you need everyone at the party. You're bisexual, I'm not, and that's just fine.

I don't think anybody is saying or claiming that.

On another note, this was your 6th post to state this thread doesn't apply to you...…………………………………...and none of the posts related to the original topic of the thread?

So just wondering why you are still going on about it?

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

EVERYBODY is sexually fluid.

It turns out male sexuality is just as fluid as female sexuality

What you seem to miss completely is that the concept of sexual fluidity must encompass the entire spectrum of attraction. There is absolutely no way to say everyone is fluid without admitting that there will be plenty who are at the extremes of the spectrum. This doesn't mean they're stuck there, any more than someone at any other point is stuck there.

Denying the existence of totally gay or straight people is just a different form of bigotry.

 

[wildcat16]

What you seem to miss completely is that the concept of sexual fluidity must encompass the entire spectrum of attraction. There is absolutely no way to say everyone is fluid without admitting that there will be plenty who are at the extremes of the spectrum. This doesn't mean they're stuck there, any more than someone at any other point is stuck there.

Denying the existence of totally gay or straight people is just a different form of bigotry.

Agreed!

 

[Infernal]

I think it does make us more comfortable with our own sexuality. When I was in my 20s, vert fit and in my sexual prime, I didn't think about guys sexually the way I do now. I was just interested in tits and pussy. It was around 1998 when I discovered that you could actually view naked images of men online. By that time, I was in my early 30s. I started watching male/gay porn a little then, but now I watch it exclusively. I've still only had sexual relations with women because I'm happily married. If I were single again, this is a side of my sexuality I would absolutely explore. Back in my 20s, it was suicide to admit that you were a little sexually attracted to men, but things have changed for the better now. In that regard, I'm very envious of the younger generation.

I was always a little attracted to men, but only in certain ways. For example, I always found the curve of a guy's ass hot, but seeing anything beyond that (hairy crack, asshole, etc) was gross to me. Now I would dive into that crack and hole face first. I also used to think that guy's dicks were gross. I only ever checked out asses when I was naked in the shower and locker room with other guys. I never wanted to see their dicks let alone touch, play or suck another guy's dick. Now I would love nothing more than to touch, play, suck or be fucked by a hot dick and suck/lick balls. In fact, I now find every part of a guy's body sexy and desirable. I only ever wanted to make out with women in the past, but now I would love to make out with a guy and feel his tongue in my mouth. I always wondered why this change happened in me. I think your theory is probably correct in my case. It wasn't until I started watching gay porn that all of this became hot for me.

I think people have a baseline to their sexuality. Over time, what you like, or are interested in can expand and change, but there is still that base of what you are really attracted to. That's what makes black and white labels of sexuality so limiting. I think some people start out with, "I like this" and over time it becomes, "I like this, and maybe a little bit of that too" . For some people, the baseline never changes, for others, it changes over time. Maybe it's people just changing over time. Maturity and throwing off things we were raised with. Who can really say. My tastes have changed over the years and what I like now isn't really the same as when I was in my early 20's.

 

[hvdude]

This whole discussion reflects our societal norms: we have a need to label everything because of a need to know. Before the labels were created people were just allowed to BE. I think in the future (5 years or 50) the labels will fade away. Look at young people today: when one of their friends "comes out" (an event that used to instill fear) the response is almost always "so what". Maybe one day it will simply be one person approaching another, letting that person know they are attracted to them and the other person can say "me too" or "thanks but no thanks".

Going back to the OP's question: CF is a porn company. The guys in their films are paid, so it's their job. To do it well they need to (appear to) enjoy themselves, that's how the company makes money and keeps them employed. If the actor has a girlfriend, she is most likely aware of how he earns his money and is supportive of it. Is one porn company reflective of society as a whole? Absolutely not.

Again, we all need to drop labels we use every day. They only create discord. Liberal, conservative, gay, bi, etc. You should be allowed to believe what you want, be with who you want to be, etc. without judgement and the world will be a better place.

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

This whole discussion reflects our societal norms: we have a need to label everything because of a need to know. Before the labels were created people were just allowed to BE. I think in the future (5 years or 50) the labels will fade away. Look at young people today: when one of their friends "comes out" (an event that used to instill fear) the response is almost always "so what". Maybe one day it will simply be one person approaching another, letting that person know they are attracted to them and the other person can say "me too" or "thanks but no thanks".

Going back to the OP's question: CF is a porn company. The guys in their films are paid, so it's their job. To do it well they need to (appear to) enjoy themselves, that's how the company makes money and keeps them employed. If the actor has a girlfriend, she is most likely aware of how he earns his money and is supportive of it. Is one porn company reflective of society as a whole? Absolutely not.

Again, we all need to drop labels we use every day. They only create discord. Liberal, conservative, gay, bi, etc. You should be allowed to believe what you want, be with who you want to be, etc. without judgement and the world will be a better place.

The labels don't create discord. Hatred, fear, intolerance....basically, bigotry...create discord. Abolishing labels is not the solution to ending bigotry. It merely pushes the bigotry down.

 

[Malgudi]

I agree, but elaborate on "niche areas"

Not all of these are positive. Underage, extreme violence etc are I think being driven by the internet turning people's darkest fantasies into reality. "If someone is doing it, I could do it too."

Lots of fetishes have become mainstream.

 

[8Cylinder]

Please lets not have yet another conversation about who is straight and what you can do and still claim to be straight and all that. What I want is some feedback here.

This term, the Corbin fisher effect, has been informally coined by a couple of my teammates and I have heard it being used lately. I can see what they mean. Without websites such as that, would SOME young athletic guys be as comfortable with SOME things as they MAY be.
Obviously a website doesn't have the same effect on everyone, even on all those who watch its content.

Straight or gay, we all love sex of some kind, we need it, we want it, we crave it, we go to great lengths to make it happen as often as possible.
Of course we all seem to fall short of getting enough of it and we turn to ways we learned before that age we can talk about on this site to fill in the gaps. During those times we turn to various methods of enhancing our excitement and increase the results of our solo efforts. One such way is porn of one form or another. It is not always needed, I have beat my meat till It was to sore to touch just reliving past experiences in my head, as have every young horny guy I know. But every guy on my team will admit to fun watching porn more than a few times.

When we turn to porn to excite us, we want it to be something we desire or fantasize about, but also something we could see ourselves in. We want to be able to relate to what we are watching, we want to be able to relate to those participating in what we watch.

For young athletic guys in great shape and in the sexual prime of their lives, the guys on CF and a few other sights like it come closer to reminding us of ourselves than anything else we find searching the vast resources of the internet. Some of our peers have even been solicited to be on sights like that.

My own brother was the first person to show me a video on CF, it was just a guy, not unlike us or our friends, beating off. No big deal, I didn't even put it in the context of porn really. I mean we did it all the time, he had seen me do it, I had seen him do it. As time went on I guess I was a bit surprised at how many guys would admit to watching such sites. At one time last year I did an informal survey and every single guy on our team admitted to having watched at least one video on a site like that.

So the question is, do sites like that make us more comfortable with moving the lines of what we are comfortable with sexually...……..does watching supposed gay for pay, make gay for fun appealing to some?

Absolutely.
with any new concept, activity, hobby or obsession, it only takes a seed of curiosity
The next step is looking for information. Once found, individual triggers will send a person deeper in or backing out.
Excitement is cued by new experience. I’ve found those most opposed are covering a fear of their strong attraction for denial credible to others. This bottled anxiety will explode either in a massive coming out or violence to reinforce the containment.

It’s sad society can’t support truly open dialogue, transparency, and tolerance. It’s sad that ee ourselves do not either.

The next time you are confronted by someone who is adverse to you, try an open, calm, acceptance of them. Defense triggers offense.

 

[8Cylinder]

Strongly disagree that "everyone is sexually fluid." I, for one, am not. It's usually dangerous to use terms such as "everyone," "all,' and "everybody." As I suspected, women tend to be more often than men.

Sexual fluidity - Wikipedia

It kills me when Wikipedia is cited as an authority on personal matters. In fact, everyone is sexually fluid to some extent, even if 0,5%. I’d have to say I’m 99,5% gay. I did once, however, fuck a hot bi man as he fucked his girlfriend. Her reactions from my thrusts into his hot, tight ass and the secondary stimulation his big ultra rigid cock gave her was pure excitement I did not expect… for example. As you point out, never say never.

 

[theplayerking]

Anal sex has an ick-factor for a lot of people (including some gay men). Ultra clean cut sites like Corbin Fisher help show people that mansex can be fun and is not necessarily emasculating.

 

[Evenflow618]

people arent sexually fluid you either gay bi or straight. You cant be gay one day and straight the next it doesnt work like that. That would make you bisexual and thats okay. If you are gay you like the same sex. If you are straight you like the opposite sex. I truly believe the internet and social norms and confusing experiences make people question their sexualities. A straight man or woman would never do anything sexual with the same sex its that simple. lets stop judging each other