The corbynistas and the new world order

[chrisrobin]

The one thing that Corbyn and his cronies want is socialism with a small "c". They want to appear as if they are for the people whereas in reality they don't want, wont condone democracy at all, they see a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate - Momentum - enforced with the sort of brutality Stalin imposed.

 

[Franny]

The one thing that Corbyn and his cronies want is socialism with a small "c". They want to appear as if they are for the people whereas in reality they don't want, wont condone democracy at all, they see a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate - Momentum - enforced with the sort of brutality Stalin imposed.

It always astonishes me just how far right you have to go to see bland middle-of-the-road social democracy as some sort of terrifying Communist plot.

Also, isn't the "c" in "socialism" always small? Or d'you sometimes spell it "soCialism"?

 

[chrisrobin]

It always astonishes me just how far right you have to go to see bland middle-of-the-road social democracy as some sort of terrifying Communist plot.

Also, isn't the "c" in "socialism" always small? Or d'you sometimes spell it "soCialism"?

thank you for that, an excited finger slip and I did mean "s" ( though a small "c" would represent their sort of communism)

 

[950483]

The one thing that Corbyn and his cronies want is socialism with a small "c". They want to appear as if they are for the people whereas in reality they don't want, wont condone democracy at all, they see a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate - Momentum - enforced with the sort of brutality Stalin imposed.

Ooh, intriguing, what sort of brutality might that be?, torture and execution? lmao. Or perhaps some people might be less inclined to do their grocery shopping at Harrods. Brutal.

Order will be imposed from the bottom, by the many. That is democracy. That's what democracy is dipshit.

 

[Chrysippus]

in reality they don't want, wont condone democracy at all, they see a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate - Momentum - enforced with the sort of brutality Stalin imposed.

1.) 'Condone' democracy? I don't think that's what you mean to say. WTF did you mean?
2.) they see 'a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate' I'd love to see you try and substantiate that assertion.
3.) Corbyn impose Stalinesque brutality? The exaggeration/hyperbole is, well, stupid. And Corbin impose Stalin's brutality? When did they make weed legal in Britain?

Try banging your shoe and howling next time--that would be as effective as your post.

 

[chrisrobin]

1.) 'Condone' democracy? I don't think that's what you mean to say. WTF did you mean?
2.) they see 'a new world where the order is imposed from the top without debate' I'd love to see you try and substantiate that assertion.
3.) Corbyn impose Stalinesque brutality? The exaggeration/hyperbole is, well, stupid. And Corbin impose Stalin's brutality? When did they make weed legal in Britain?

Try banging your shoe and howling next time--that would be as effective as your post.

Open your eyes and breath in through your mouth.
Labour, the Corbynistas will never go for democracy as the free world knows it as it will be controlled my Momentum. Momentum have a tendency to use brute force to get there way, to put forward their ideas. They thuggishly beat up candidates they didn't like, broke constituency windows, daubed remarks and made some god fearing labour supports afraid, they use rent a mob tactic for demonstrations. Yes Stalin went further, but each wedge has a sliver of a beginning, and hey mate, its now called Momentum.
Momentum is right now trying to deselect any labour candidate who is not of their view...sound familiar, Putin?

 

[Chrysippus]

Open your eyes and breath in through your mouth.
Labour, the Corbynistas will never go for democracy as the free world knows it as it will be controlled my Momentum. Momentum have a tendency to use brute force to get there way, to put forward their ideas. They thuggishly beat up candidates they didn't like, broke constituency windows, daubed remarks and made some god fearing labour supports afraid, they use rent a mob tactic for demonstrations. Yes Stalin went further, but each wedge has a sliver of a beginning, and hey mate, its now called Momentum.
Momentum is right now trying to deselect any labour candidate who is not of their view...sound familiar, Putin?

One of the most illiterate and factually deficient posts I've read.

Stalin didn't just 'go further', he had anywhere from 8 to 61 million people murdered.
I wont tell you to open your eyes and breathe in through your mouth--I'll tell you to learn to argue using facts. Lansman and Corbyn don't have a kill count.
'Each wedge has a sliver of a beginning'? This isn't metaphor, it's word salad. And it's no substitute for rational thinking in a forum post.

No facts, incoherent, and emotional. Maybe you should look for something else to do.

 

[Chrysippus]

Stalin didn't just 'go further', he had anywhere from 8 to 61 million people murdered.

And that’s just muders, excluding planned starvation, etc.

And for those who are interested, ‘The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression’
by Stéphane Courtois et al, Harvard University Press, 1997.
The book details casualties and crimes of communist regimes.

 

[chrisrobin]

The new world order has started.
As the selection process for new MP's and councillors starts already MOMENTUM have moved in to get rid of anything moderate and replace them with radicalised Momentum supporters.
Anyone who thinks the next Election will be fought by an opposition made up of same level headed people from real socialist backgrounds is in for a big shock, they will be hard nosed radicals with an agenda to wipe out all opposition.
And heaven help the UK if they get into power - which currently looks possible - time to man the lifeboats!

 

[southeastone]

Morgan stanley don't seem keen!

 

[Jason]

The new world order has started.
As the selection process for new MP's and councillors starts already MOMENTUM have moved in to get rid of anything moderate and replace them with radicalised Momentum supporters.
Anyone who thinks the next Election will be fought by an opposition made up of same level headed people from real socialist backgrounds is in for a big shock, they will be hard nosed radicals with an agenda to wipe out all opposition.
And heaven help the UK if they get into power - which currently looks possible - time to man the lifeboats!

We have to wake up. Momentum have espoused an economic and political system that is tantamount to kicking the poorest into the gutter and stamping in their face. They are an odious group. In France the Front National claim that they have moved on from their hateful origins - as do AfD in Germany and the far right in Austria. I'm not sure that I believe them, but on paper what they say is sort of okay. By contrast Momentum are embracing views that are among the most extreme by any political party ever. They plan a Marxist revolution and a Marxist hell.

 

[deleted931509]

Corbyn will be a breath of fresh air if he gets in. He will bring socialism back to Britain, and we have been a socialist country since WW2. For decades, Tories have been eroding the NHS and our other services. Taxes have been mentioned earlier, actually the bulk of tax income is generated by ordinary workers, not by the richest 1%. A slight increase in tax is not a bad thing, it simply brings us in line with other European countries which have a far higher degree of socialism than we have in Britain, yet they seem to be doing pretty well. Let's not follow the nasty party's ideology of cutting taxes and services - that will make us closer to the US, a seriously dysfunctional country. We should be more like Germany, where unions still exist and socialism is not a dirty word.
I'm not saying Corbyn is perfect, he seems like a bit of a weird nerd, but I'd much prefer him to the current lot. Also I don't believe he is antisemitic, I think you are confusing criticism of Israel with antisemitism.