The Dangers of "Fragrance"

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  1. Quite Irate

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    A link to a Harvard study in "Genital size on a downward arc as intelligence is more treasured," inspired me to write this post. See:
    Harvard Gazette: Chemical exposure tied to sperm count


    I could write an entire thesis on this subject, but to get a gist of it:

    A major loophole in FDA's federal law lets manufacturers of products like shampoo, lotion, and body wash include nearly any ingredient in their products under the name "fragrance" without actually listing the chemical. Companies that manufacture personal care products are required by law to list the ingredients they use, but fragrances and trade-secret formulas are exempt. An analysis of the chemical contents of products reveals that the innocuous-looking “fragrance” often contains chemicals linked to negative health effects. Phthalates, used to make fragrances last longer, are associated damage to the male reproductive system, and artificial musks accumulate in our bodies and can be found in breast milk. Some artificial musks are even linked to cancer. And if you've got asthma, watch out-- fragrance formulas are considered to be among the top 5 known allergens, and can trigger asthma attacks. The same kinds of chemicals are often used for fragrances in cleaning products, scented candles, and air fresheners.
    To avoid those unpleasant side effects, choose fragrance-free products, but beware labels that say "unscented." It may only mean that the manufacturer has added yet another fragrance to mask the original odor.


    (source: Enviroblog: Ask EWG: What is "fragrance"?)

    I highlighted the part I thought LPSG would be interested in. ;)

    If you live in an EU country you've got it a little better with the European Commission, but not by much. So - be careful when you look at the ingredients on certain items, because what you're often not seeing the entire picture.
     
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    I stopped wearing cologne and using scented deodorant over a year ago.

    Not looking back.
     
  3. Quite Irate

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    Don't even get me started on antiperspirants.
     
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    I've never used perfume (although some people still insist on buying it for me despite me going around from mid october declaring I don't like it) I don't have asthma but it's always made my nose tickle.
     
  5. Quite Irate

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    I'm sort of allergic to it. I prefer the smell of not-over-the-top cologne to perfume anyway.
     
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    I've never really liked the smell of perfumes fortunately, if someone's reeking of au de whatever I always wonder if they consider they stink - some people do have a natural smell that can be sour or unpleasant.
     
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    Sometimes it's an opinion-based thing, pleasantness of natural odor. Mine is divine, I'm sure.

    You could always confirm this via an independent study. Peer reviewed, even! :wink:
     
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    The issue with colognes and perfumes is that FEW people know how to wear them properly. Someone should only smell your perfume if they are close on you--like, they hug you or put their nose in your neck.

    Far too many people commit one of the following:

    • putting cologne/perfume on their clothes
    • spraying multiple sprays on the body
    • spraying their entire body
    • not taking into consideration that certain body points and hair make scent carry more than others
    When I wore cologne, I would spray into the air and walk into it (after the shower), or I placed a light spray on my belly (where there is some hair). That is all you need. Hairier men (women) Need less as hair carries smell---hence why your arm pits and crotch are among the first body parts to have a pronounced smell.
     
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    I wear antiperspirant deoderant and Axe body spray.:frown1:

    I just spray in the air and walk into it though.
     
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    I stopped using cologne about 15 years ago when my allergies went into overdrive. I avoid the fragrance section of major department stores at all times. Though I must admit I still use the 'Powder Fresh' Mitchum Anti-Perspirant & Deodorant for Women. :redface: I use Aveeno shower gel for sensitive skin and try to avoid scernted household cleaners.

    The worst was when I worked in a small office with a woman tha insisted on using a faux Giorgio knock off all over her body. :12: There was a fog of the stuff around her at all times. You could always tell if she had beenin the copy room because her aroma lingered. :yuck:
     
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    I did conduct a peer reviewed study QI, I asked my mates if it was just me or if Mr X stunk, they all said he stunk :)
     
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    i love perfume (and guys that wear good smelling cologne - it's my weakness!) and deodorant. i don't like to smell like body odor. :biggrin1:
     
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    I generally wear very little to none for fragrances. Step into a spray and out. I am very sensitive to odors and smells and typically am the first one to smell anything or have a violent reaction to some smells. I try to be considerate of others as well.

    I use Deoderant as I don't want to stink. I also have a "rock" deoderant I use when camping as it has no smells.
     
  14. Quite Irate

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    "Fragrance" is listed in many personal care products that have little or nothing to do with perfume of any sort. I've even seen face creams with it.
     
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    Phthalates are used in everyday plastics from car interiors, furniture, clothing, to children's toys and all kinds of applications. You know that new car smell? That's the outgassing of phthalates from the PVCs into the air. When they enter the body, they mimic estrogen. Europe and California are banning their use in children's toys beginning in 2009 but it may be shutting the barn after the horse is long gone. Phthalates are all over the environment from our homes, clothings, pesticides, cosmetics, and cars to the water system and, as they don't appear to ever break down, we may be stuck with them for the foreseeable future.

    Some studies indicate that fetal exposure to phthalates in the womb increases a woman's chances of aborting a male fetus or the child being born with decreased anogenital distance, undescended testes, hypospadias, and other deformities. Other studies indicate that while these exposures apply to some animals, they fail to apply to humans. Some scientists are alarmed, others are not. More detailed studies will be required to determine what is really going on with them.


    The key study that initially raised the alarm was this one:

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    You can read that abstract and the entire article at the NIH website.

    Now ask yourself, does smelling nice really matter when your son ends-up with genital problems? Or are you just that selfish?
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  16. Quite Irate

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    Modern consumer materials are absolutely riddled with health risks. It's despicable. I'm glad that some countries have had the sense to ban harmful food colorings (Red #40, Yellow #5, etc.), but it's still ridiculous. They're completely unnecessary, that's the thing. Nobody needs them, and they're health risks. I don't mind going without "fragrance" and food colorings (which, incidentally, are used in products that don't even require them - for instance, Yellow #5 appears in white pills). I'm just sick of this stuff.
     
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    well, that sucks. i love different colognes. i think my current fragrances of Brit by Burberry and Romance by Ralph Lauren are intoxicating.

    and i basically need deodorant. i always sweat too much. it's fucking annoying that i have lived in a temperate climate for all my life and i still sweat buckets if heat hits me.
     
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    I feel that what does not kill you will only make you smell better... it was interesting to find out and discuss in a biology class not too long ago actually that scientists found that if you place almost anything or any object on a mouse long enough it will develop something a lesion, cancer, hemorrhoid.. shit whatever... lol... good information i must admit, but i personally will take the chance and hope others do too because i like some smells and i know that LEX will probably condemn me for this, but some colognes just turn me on more than i can take... especially romance prince will... hehehehehehe

    peace out and safety to all :)
     
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    lol...i'll have to label my bottle, "caution: will drive typhu fucking wild." lol
     
  20. lonamisa

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    Well, that's a little scary, but I'll go and worry about it when people stop lighting cigarettes in my face all the time..
     
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