So when do guys usually expect to start running the bases, when you start dating guy for a long-term intended relationship? So basically I've been talking to this guy for about a month and we have seen each other 4 times. The last time we had a great kiss, which was this past Thursday. He said he couldn't stop thinking about the kiss. All weekend he texted, IM'ed, and emailed me. We arranged to meet today, Monday evening as well as Tuesday evening . . . but now today he says he wants to be friends. Another woman he met the other week and only saw a couple of times is ready to get serious more quickly apparently than me. I've never really dated and I've never been with anyone but my H. This guy knew all this and agreed on going slow. So what's the usual expected time line? We had both agreed that we wanted to be friends before we escalated anything, since we were looking for a long-term thing . . . I thought that's what we were doing - but apparently a quick fuck trumps a regular thing. So what gives? How far do guys really expect to get with a woman they are interested in for more than a fling or short-term thing? One friend told me he expects to get pussy the second date, which I thought was a bit quick!