The Death Penalty

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TexAssgirl &#064; Nov 2 2005, 03&#58;55 PM) [post=357662]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by GottaBigOne@Nov 2 2005, 01:10 AM
The reason the writer recommended ten years is exactly for what you cited: in order to make 100 percent sure that the accused is guilty. Capital punishment is about justice, not about economics, if it cost more to be moral then so be it. How would you feel if you knew that an innocent man was murdered because you wanted to save a few bucks?

The difference between drugs and murder is that the user has a choice of whether or not to use the drug, even if they are young and stupid. I was young once and stupid but I never did anything worse than pot and now I don&#39;t do any drugs except nicotine which I know to be dangerous, but it is my choice and not the fault of phillip morris. If no one wanted to do drugs there wouldn&#39;t be any drug dealers, drug dealers meet a demand with a supply, the supply doesn&#39;t create the demand.
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Perhaps I should have made myself more clear. I wasn&#39;t talking about giving all convicted murderers a fast-track to be executed, just the ones that we are 100% sure that they did it. For example: a guy walks into Burger King and shoots and kills multiple people. There&#39;s no denying that he is guilty. Why should our tax &#036; have to be wasted on appeals so that he can avoid execution just for a little bit longer?

For those cases where reasonable doubt still remains...I&#39;m not sure that 10 yrs (or any amount of time in of itself) would be enough. Exonerating evidence doesn&#39;t always pop up within 10 years. <a href="http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=6&did=110" target="_blank">For Example - click here/url] I just don&#39;t think time is the answer. Even after 10 years, one can&#39;t necessarily be 100% sure that someone is guilty or not. There&#39;s got to be a better way that we just haven&#39;t stumbled across or put to use enough yet. Maybe we only sentence those that we have undeniable conclusive evidence against and put the rest in life inprisonment.

Going back to drug dealers...many of those drug dealers deal right in the school yard. Kids don&#39;t fully comprehend the consequences of taking drugs. Drug dealers know that and that is why they prey on the youth.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>...the user has a choice of whether or not to use the drug, even if they are young and stupid[/b][/quote]

That&#39;s like saying that it&#39;s a kid&#39;s fault for getting into a stranger&#39;s van and subsequently getting raped because they were "young and stupid" enough to get in the van.

Here&#39;s some stats </a> - granted that the largest percentage of drug users fall in the 18-24 yr range, but there&#39;s also a huge percentage in the 16-17 and then 14-15 age ranges. Even the 12-13 have a percentage that&#39;s not to be scoffed at.

Perhaps the death penalty would be too harsh for them, they certainly need harsher penalties than what they endure. Although if I had a 12 year old that died of a drug overdose from some drugs that he bought off of someone else at school, I&#39;d probably say "Fry the bastard&#33;"
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Umm, actually yeah, I&#39;d say that a teenager who ignores all the drug awareness programs in school and still decides to do drugs should take responsibilty for his actions. But thats not the only consideration, parents of underaged kids should be more involved in their childrens lives, if they don&#39;t want their children doing a certain thing, then they should be more attentive. people have to learn to take responsibilty for their own actions and stop using the excuses of that they didn&#39;t know better. We got sex, and drug information when I was in fifth grade, and most of my friends still do a lot of drugs, and its their own fault. I turned out fine, also my fault. As a parent it is your job to educate your kids about the dangers of the world and prepare them for it, if they fail, then part of the problem was your parenting, not the drug dealers. I play poker with my friends every night almost and they do drugs everytime, they ofer me everytime, and I say "no" everytime, this was the same when I was younger. teenagers are not retarded, just naive. Its not like they can&#39;t just say no.

KIDBROWN; the point of this discussion was not to just spout unsupported claims, but to comment on the arguments given in the accompyaning article. That or put forth arguments. Simply stating that man has no right to decide who lives and who dies says nothing of substance. Show me how man has no right to decide who lives and who dies.
 

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I completely agree that it&#39;s the parent&#39;s job to teach their children right from wrong and hope they make the right decisions. But when I send my kid off to school, I expect that the school looks out for their well being. If I understand correctly, the schools are the government&#39;s responsibilities and I&#39;d like to know that they are taking some extra measures to keep the drug dealers from targeting my children. Again, perhaps the death penalty is too severe after all, but some harsher penalty should be put in place for them.